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Is this like a Miss Universe pageant that they award the person who brings their own kneepads and lipstick?
Nah. It's a long process involving nominations from prominent academics in the field, then voting is done a board of academics and prominent members in the scientific community. Basically, the ones that are most trusted to put science ahead of everything else.
 

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Nah. It's a long process involving nominations from prominent academics in the field, then voting is done a board of academics and prominent members in the scientific community. Basically, the ones that are most trusted to put science ahead of everything else.
Awesome. So it is won by people that actual deserve it.

Not like the Nobel peace prize... where they give it to any fuckwit.
 

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Awesome. So it is won by people that actual deserve it.

Not like the Nobel peace prize... where they give it to any fuckwit.
Yeah, Peace Prize is a bit more of a mixed one. Nominations tend to come from governments and it ends up being more of a popularity contest. It's usually well deserved but there's usually someone who deserves it more each year.

For example:

2020 - won by the World Food Program who provided food to starving people including starving children in war zones. They have also managed to stop conflicts, and intervened when a government attempts to use starvation as a tactic of war

2018 - won by Denis Mukwege and Nadia Murad. Both stood up against African governments who were using rape as a tactic of war, taking it to the UN rights commity resulting in sanctions on countries who used these tactics. All while recieving death threats and assasination attempts

These guys definitely deserved it. But when you have others like...

2019 - won by the Ethiopian Prime Minister who managed to take power from ruthless tyrants and he managed to peacefully end a war that had been raging for decades... but the year after he won the prize, another war broke out when he refused to go to election (using Covid as an excuse) and during this war his forces carried out ethnic clensing, rape, many horrible acts. When questioned about his soldiers raping women, he basically said that it doesn't matter if women get raped
 

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Yeah, Peace Prize is a bit more of a mixed one. Nominations tend to come from governments and it ends up being more of a popularity contest. It's usually well deserved but there's usually someone who deserves it more each year.

For example:

2020 - won by the World Food Program who provided food to starving people including starving children in war zones. They have also managed to stop conflicts, and intervened when a government attempts to use starvation as a tactic of war

2018 - won by Denis Mukwege and Nadia Murad. Both stood up against African governments who were using rape as a tactic of war, taking it to the UN rights commity resulting in sanctions on countries who used these tactics. All while recieving death threats and assasination attempts

These guys definitely deserved it. But when you have others like...

2019 - won by the Ethiopian Prime Minister who managed to take power from ruthless tyrants and he managed to peacefully end a war that had been raging for decades... but the year after he won the prize, another war broke out when he refused to go to election (using Covid as an excuse) and during this war his forces carried out ethnic clensing, rape, many horrible acts. When questioned about his soldiers raping women, he basically said that it doesn't matter if women get raped
Didn't Osama and angry orange win one too?
 

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Didn't Osama and angry orange win one too?
Nah. You're thinking of Time Magazine Man of the Year, which was won by Obama, Trump, and Hitler.

But Obama did win the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009 in the first year of Presidency and it was heavily criticised especially after the chairman of the committee admitted that one of the reasons he won was because they thought it would influence him to find encourage peace. And instead he ended up doing what every other president has done, and kept bombing kids in the Middle East.
 

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Last night watched an episode of BBC's - Wonders Of The Solar System. Focused on Jupiter's moon 'Io'.
Fascinating stuff.
 

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Interesting. I picked C - curve.

I voted B when he originally put the question up on YouTube. It seemed the most logical. Uniform speed, uniform weight, should be a uniform line.

What I didn't realise is that it was based on different levels of tension but equal ratios of resistance to downward force.
 

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Over a century ago, Albert Einstein predicted that the gravitational pull of black holes were so strong that they should bend light right around them.

Black holes don't emit light, they trap it; and ordinarily, you can't see anything behind a black hole.

But it seems Einstein's theory was right.

For the first time, astronomers have caught a glimpse of light being reflected — or "echoing" — from behind a supermassive black hole, 800 million light years away from Earth.

These "echoes" were in the form of X-ray flashes, according to a study published on Thursday in Nature.

While scientists have seen light bending around a black hole before, this is the first time they have been able to see the phenomenon happening from the other side.

"Any light that goes into that black hole doesn't come out, so we shouldn't be able to see anything that's behind the black hole,” said study co-author Dan Wilkins, an astrophysicist at Stanford University.
It's a lensing effect which gives false location for objects behind black holes due to the bending of the light - but it does at least give a view of what's behind them. I wonder if we'll ever see what's inside them?
 

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Scientists discovered the mineral davemaoite inside a diamond formed in the mantle of the earth. (Image credit: Shutterstock)
Within a diamond drawn from deep below the earth’s surface, scientists have discovered the first example of an unprecedented mineral.

The mineral is named davemaoite after the prominent geophysicist Ho-kwang (Dave) Mao, and is the first example of a high pressure calcium silicate perovskite (CaSiO3) found on the earth. Another form of CaSiO3, known as wollastonite, is commonly found throughout the globe, but davemaoit has a crystalline structure that is formed only under high pressure and high temperatures in the Earth’s mantle, the primarily solid layer of soil trapped between the outer core and the crust. .

Davemaoite has long been expected to be an abundant and geochemically important mineral in the Earth’s mantle. But scientists have never found any direct evidence of its existence because it degrades to other minerals as it moves toward the surface and the pressure drops. However, analysis of a diamond from Botswana, which was formed in the mantle about 410 miles (660 kilometers) below the Earth’s surface, has revealed a sample of intact davemaoite trapped inside. As a result, the International Mineralogical Association has now confirmed davemaoite as a new mineral.
 

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Nah. It's a long process involving nominations from prominent academics in the field, then voting is done a board of academics and prominent members in the scientific community. Basically, the ones that are most trusted to put science ahead of everything else.
So these dudes really done their " research " not just watched a YouTube video?
 

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Scientists discovered the mineral davemaoite inside a diamond formed in the mantle of the earth. (Image credit: Shutterstock)
Within a diamond drawn from deep below the earth’s surface, scientists have discovered the first example of an unprecedented mineral.

The mineral is named davemaoite after the prominent geophysicist Ho-kwang (Dave) Mao, and is the first example of a high pressure calcium silicate perovskite (CaSiO3) found on the earth. Another form of CaSiO3, known as wollastonite, is commonly found throughout the globe, but davemaoit has a crystalline structure that is formed only under high pressure and high temperatures in the Earth’s mantle, the primarily solid layer of soil trapped between the outer core and the crust. .

Davemaoite has long been expected to be an abundant and geochemically important mineral in the Earth’s mantle. But scientists have never found any direct evidence of its existence because it degrades to other minerals as it moves toward the surface and the pressure drops. However, analysis of a diamond from Botswana, which was formed in the mantle about 410 miles (660 kilometers) below the Earth’s surface, has revealed a sample of intact davemaoite trapped inside. As a result, the International Mineralogical Association has now confirmed davemaoite as a new mineral.
Hopefully everyone just calls it "Davemate", or "Dave-o" for short.
 

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So these dudes really done their " research " not just watched a YouTube video?
On an aside - late last week I was given a data scientists pHD for review of the applicability of the findings to some modelling work I'm doing (yes - I'm a very good looking guy). Imagine my surprise when I get towards the end of the intro and see "blah, blah, blah (Wikipedia)".

Now some might think this is poor science but imv - finally some honesty on science. Normally you go to wiki, then use the wiki reference as your pub reference. Or even better, make it up (Tom, Dick, Harry, 1969). At least this guy was real.

FTR, the work was shite. Don't just give data scientists reams of data without a conceptual model and expect something positive. They tried to argue a correlation of lake water colour to barometric pressure. F'wits....
 

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On an aside - late last week I was given a data scientists pHD for review of the applicability of the findings to some modelling work I'm doing (yes - I'm a very good looking guy). Imagine my surprise when I get towards the end of the intro and see "blah, blah, blah (Wikipedia)".

Now some might think this is poor science but imv - finally some honesty on science. Normally you go to wiki, then use the wiki reference as your pub reference. Or even better, make it up (Tom, Dick, Harry, 1969). At least this guy was real.

FTR, the work was shite. Don't just give data scientists reams of data without a conceptual model and expect something positive. They tried to argue a correlation of lake water colour to barometric pressure. F'wits....
There is a correlation between lake water colour and barometric pressure.

Reference: Doogie - TheKennel "Science Stuff", Post #479, Paragraph 3
 
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