Soccer The Manchester United SUPER Thread

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To be honest I only realised after the Roma game when they said we’re got 3 days to get ready for Liverpool
I’ve got a feeling ole won’t trot out our best team
You won't need your best team..
 

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More important game for Liverpool this
They need 3 points for top 4
Plus I can see ole resting a few players

Liverpool favourites at the moment with the bookies, shows how important this game is for them
 

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Fans invaded the pitch. Match postponed. Lolllll
 

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Good bout time something happened
I don’t like how match got postponed but noth8ng will change if you keep doing same shit
 

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All of the previous protests over the past decade plus haven't forced the Glazers to sell though. I hope they do for United fan's sake but generally billionaires don't care about what people want and will just ride it out until the noise dies down. It's a messy situation that doesn't look like improving anytime soon.
 

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All of the previous protests over the past decade plus haven't forced the Glazers to sell though. I hope they do for United fan's sake but generally billionaires don't care about what people want and will just ride it out until the noise dies down. It's a messy situation that doesn't look like improving anytime soon.
Unfortunately this is true, the glaziers hide and don’t care, will continue to bleed the club dry
Won’t invest into the club
They simply don’t care
 

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Unfortunately this is true, the glaziers hide and don’t care, will continue to bleed the club dry
Won’t invest into the club
They simply don’t care
They really don't. They don't care how much they're hated. They don't care about the fans complaints and addressing them.. And security at future games will be ten times stronger to ensure this doesn't happen again..

Even as a City fan, I feel for United fans as they're powerless to do anything about it despite their best efforts and how often they've made it clear they want a change.
 

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On a bright note
Roy Keane:
“ it’s been mostly peaceful protests “

Other pundit :
“ there’s been flares and bottles thrown”

Roy Keane:
“ yeah but mostly at Jamie carragher”

Hahahah brilliant
 

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Just keep protesting so we lose points and miss out on European football and don’t earn money. That will force the JB’s to sell. I hope the share price drops so the ***** lose money

fucking *****
 

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I reckon if we played Liverpool it would have been a draw anyway, i had money on it.
 

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Is it true the Glazers have spent £700 million over the last 5 seasons ? Only Man City spent more .
More than double what Liverpool spent and Chelsea spent.
2nd highest spenders in the PL .
 
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Is it true the Glazers have spent £700 million over the last 5 seasons ? Only Man Ciry spent more .
More than double what Liverpool spent and Chelsea spent.
2nd highest spenders in the PL .
Oh master. I bow to your supreme shit stirring. LOL
 

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Manchester United's finances explained: How has the Glazer ownership affected the club? [Telegraph]

**How revenue, debt and transfer spend has changed under the current ownership**

[*By Ben Rumsby. 5 May 2021*](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/05/05/manchester-uniteds-finances-explained-has-glazer-ownership-affected/)

The ownership of Manchester United has come under increased scrutiny following the unsuccessful formation of the European Super League. It is clear the anti-Glazer movement is stronger than ever, as illustrated by the protests at Old Trafford last weekend.

**Revenue**

Having an official noodle partner in Japan may have left them open to mockery but there is no doubt United have become a money-making behemoth under the Glazers’ ownership. Their annual revenue more than trebled from £173 million in 2006 to £627m in 2019 before the coronavirus crisis struck and they made a profit in more than half those years.

Their lack of Premier League title since 2013 and occasional failure to qualify for the Champions League has hardly dented that growth, which has been fueled primarily by a surge in commercial revenue from £55m 15 years ago to a record £279m last year.

It is questionable whether that would have been achieved but for the Glazers’ takeover, which triggered a hugely-successful regional approach to sponsorship that has milked United’s global popularity to deliver 53 such tie-ups. However, their recent trophy drought – coupled with gluts for their biggest rivals – has coincided with a flat-lining of that commercial revenue.

Manchester City and Liverpool, who have adopted similar regional models to United, have not only closed the gap but are threatening to surge by in the coming seasons.

**Debt**

The root of supporter opposition to the Glazer takeover. United were debt-free before being bought out using hundreds of millions of pounds in bank loans. That instantly put them more than £550m in debt and on the hook for tens of millions of pounds of interest payments each year.

Their net debt rocketed to £773m in 2010, the same year the anti-Glazers green-and-gold campaign began. By the end of it, the family had paid off more than a quarter of that figure having raised a £500m bond issue. The debt continued to fall after the club was floated on the New York Stock Exchange and shares were sold to external investors and, in 2019, it almost dipped below the £200m mark. But the pandemic has seen it surge again to £455.5m.

Loan repayments made since 2005 now total £244m but only £6m of that has come in the past five years. It is also dwarfed by interest payments of £704m, £496m of which have been made in the last decade, more than every other Premier League club combined. The total figure could easily exceed £1bn by the time the debt is repaid – if indeed it ever is.

**Dividends**

If United fans were not already angry enough about the debt being loaded onto the club, the Glazers began paying themselves annual dividends, with the total they have received since the takeover having reached £125m. Almost all of that has been pocketed in the last five years, the same period in which debt repayments have all but ceased. It included a £23m dividend during the pandemic, albeit one signed off on before the UK was plunged into the Covid-19 crisis.

United are the only Premier League club to pay regular dividends of any kind, something that is nevertheless common business practice and which the Glazers will argue is offset by the massive increase in revenues – and numerous profitable years – that have been delivered under their stewardship. However, coupled with interest payments and debt repayments, that takes the total ‘cost’ of their ownership past £1bn.


**Transfer spend**

One of the biggest complaints about the Glazers’ early tenure was that they failed to invest properly in the squad, relying on Sir Alex Ferguson’s genius to get the best out of an increasingly-substandard set of players. This is borne out by a net transfer spend of just £153m during the Americans’ first eight years in charge. In the seven years since, that net spend surged past the £1bn mark as they backed a succession of managers’ attempts to bring in fresh blood.

Indeed, since Ferguson retired, only City have netted more on signings in world football. However, many of those United recruits flopped, while it could be argued that money used to service the Glazers’ debt would have been better spent on improving the squad. Their failure to appoint a director of football has also drawn criticism amid the success of Liverpool’s recruitment department at identifying players to buy.


**Infrastructure spend**

Before the Glazer takeover, Old Trafford was the jewel in the Premier League crown, having been redeveloped into a gleaming 74,000-seater stadium in keeping with their on-field dominance. The lack of investment in one of football’s most famous grounds since then has been one of the saddest legacies of the Americans’ ownership, which has seen them spend just £185m on it and the club’s training ground.

United fans have watched as, in the interim, Arsenal and Tottenham Hotspur have both built state-of-the-art new homes, while Liverpool and City have spent hundreds of millions redeveloping their own, with plans for further expansion.

**Conclusion**

For all the success United have enjoyed off the field – and on it under Ferguson at least – there is no escaping the spoils of this have been used more to line the pockets of the Glazers and their creditors (£1.073bn) since their takeover than on improving the squad (£1.005bn). Coupled with the lack of investment in Old Trafford, the almost complete absence of owner engagement, and the club’s recent trophy drought, it is easy to see why The Super League fiasco has had the impact it has.
 

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So fuck outta here with we have spent as much as city. These flops had Woodward doing the deals

they have spend about 70mil a year since being owners
 

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So the Glazers dropped coin, that coin was spent on duds. Maguire £80 million. That’s £60 million above his actual worth.
 

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Is it true the Glazers have spent £700 million over the last 5 seasons ? Only Man City spent more .
More than double what Liverpool spent and Chelsea spent.
2nd highest spenders in the PL .
Actually 553 million but hey let’s not let the facts get in the way of a good story
@tassiedevil not sure if you have permanent internet access but surely you can help the special one out with fact hunting
 

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Good too see ole rest a heap of lads today
How deadly is cavani, we’ve missed a big 9 for years
How offside was Roma last goal, that scars me that the lines on var were cooked
Played poor today
Looks like Villarreal final
Play like that in the final and we will get flogged

De gea still the best keeper at the club
 
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