Following the sacking of Kevin we did get the best coach available and he only did Ok by backending player contracts ie. having a Roster worth a few million more than the cap, in other words borrowing against future years cap.
NOW THAT'S WHY WE ARE IN THE MESS WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW.
By the way i do agree that pay was resigned in haste with the hope of attracting players , just like Des was given 2 more years for the same reason then sacked in the same year.
Sorry piggy meant to reply to Squash the berries.
This is what I can not understand with the so called need for back ended contracts.
Des signed in November 2011.
2012 Signings
Gains: James Graham (St Helens), Luke MacDougall (rugby union)
Losses: Andrew Ryan, Michael Hodgson (both retired), Jamal Idris (Gold Coast), Ben Roberts (Parramatta), Chris Armit (Penrith)
Des Hasler Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles – Head Coach
Noel Cleal Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles – Recruitment Manager
James Graham ESL – St. Helens
James Gavet – Vulcans NSW Cup
Luke MacDougall – Saracens
Sione Kite – Melbourne Storm
Re-signed
David Stagg till 2012
Jake Foster till 2013
Corey Payne till 2013
Josh Morris till 2014
Michael Ennis till 2014
Ben Barba till 2015
Steve Turner till 2012
Bryson Goodwin till 2012
Tim Browne till 2013
Joel Romelo till 2012
Michael Lett till 2012
Transfers/leaving
Jarrad Hickey – Mid-Season – Wakefield Trinity Wildcats ESL
Jamal Idris – Gold Coast Titans
Ben Roberts – Parramatta Eels
Michael Hodgson – Retired
Gary Warburton- Celtic Crusaders, ESL
Andrew Ryan – Retired
Chris Armit – Penrith Panthers
Brad Morrin – Retired
Junior Tia-Kilifi – Penrith Panthers
Mickey Paea – Hull Kingston Rover
2013 Signings
Gains: Krisnan Inu (mid-season, Warriors), Sam Perrett (mid-season, Roosters), Drury Low (Raiders), Tony Williams, Junior Palau (Sea Eagles)
Losses: David Stagg (Broncos), Jake Foster (Raiders), James Gavet (Tigers), Bryson Goodwin (Rabbitohs), Luke MacDougall, Corey Payne (retired), Tupou Sopoaga, Jonathan Wright (Cronulla Sharks)
2014 Gains: Damien Cook (Dragons), Reni Maitua (Eels), Pat O'Hanlon (Eels), Chase Stanley (Dragons), Tyrone Phillips (Rabbitohs), Kayne Brennan (Dragons).
Losses: Ben Barba (Broncos), Danny Galea (Widnes), Dene Halatau (Wests Tigers), Kris Keating (Hull FC), Martin Taupau (Wests Tigers)
2015
Gains
Michael Lichaa (Sharks)
Curtis Rona (Cowboys)
Brett Morris (Dragons)
Jarrod McInally (Easts Tigers)
Jacob Loko (Eels)
Antonio Kaufusi (Huddersfield, ESL)
Matt Frawley (Raiders)
Losses
Michael Ennis (Sharks)
Mitch Brown (Sharks)
Reni Maitua (Featherstone Rovers)
Krisnan Inu (French rugby)
Lachlan Burr (Titans)
John Sila (Tigers)
Dale Finucane (Storm)
Drury Low (Released)
Tom Murphy (Q Cup)
Pat Templeman (Q Cup)
2016
Ins: Zac Woolford (Raiders), Josh Cleeland (Sharks), Rhyse Martin (Townsville Blackhawks), Brenko Lee (Raiders), Tom Carr (Dragons), Francis Tualau (Storm), Richard Kennar (Storm)
Outs: Dane Chisholm (mid-season, Bradford), Lindon McGrady (mid-season, Wentworthville), Pat O'Hanlon (retired), Sam Perrett (retirement), Curtis Rona (rugby union, Western Force), Tim Browne (Panthers), Tony Williams (Sharks), Richard Coorey (released), Makahesi Makatoa (Raiders), Jarrod McInally (Queensland Intrust Super Cup), Graham Clark (released), Jake Kamire (released), Reubenn Rennie (released), Lamar Liolevave (released), Brad Keighran (released, mid-season).
During the 2017 season the first reporting of our alleged
severe salary cap trouble and the departing players were :
Josh Reynolds (Wests Tigers)
Sam Kasiano (Melbourne Storm)
Michael Lichaa (Released)
Tyrone Phillips (Released)
Craig Garvey (Released)
2018 the shopping of players excellerated.
Go through the Gains (no super stars) and the corresponding Losses (which are close to like for like) for the past 5 years.
Explain why we even needed back ended contracts...the roster has never warranted it.
By comparison to at least 7?, probably more, other top teams' rosters, we have not had the spine or x factor players to even get close to getting value for money from our salary cap *shakes head at what the hells gone wrong*