ranger vs Hilux

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Some of the best engineering in the world, backed up by the fact that they have the most service centres of any vehicle brand in Australia. Or the one that fits its moniker of, "Found On Rubbish Dump"
And before this was the early model Falcon being described as "Foulcan" and not suited to Aussie conditions grand father bought one new then I remember it rusting in back yard.
 

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Get an Amarok then you can visit me when it dies haha. Nah bur seriously, iv been in the motor industry for 12 years (sales and mechanic)

- Hilux from the early 2000s to current have always had fuelling issues. Injectors and fuel rails fucking out. (TDI injectors start at 1k+ a pop)

-Rangers have shit gearboxes

-Isuzu make the best engine and it's been the same for a number of years. Not sure if it still applies but they had a b10 rating. The new ones have turbos fucking out left and right though since they changed manufacturers.

- Mazda, read above^^^. Same running gear as isuzu with a nicer body slapped ontop

- VW amarok has a bad rep but honestly is my pick of the bunch. Bulletproof engines and the only issue I know of is the V6 DPF is poorly designed and can struggle to regen on its own. (Iv been a VW & Audi specialist mechanic for 5 years now). It will be dearer to service aswell unless you find an independent mechanic. I'm here if you need....

- tritons I know fuck all about. Nobody I know has owned one or even considered it
What makes the gearbox shit in the Ranger? Can you tune or flash the gear box to make it better?
 

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Hey boys,possibly looking into a ute to drive mainy for general driving, going beach, towing trailer/jetski etc

Not for off road but something with abit of grunt but not superfast or that will guzzle petrol.

Now a few boys said stay away from ford rangers like the wildtraks/raptors, they said they have alot of transmission/gearbox problems, but i see them everywhere on the road, or am i missing something?

They said buy a hilux, there more reliable and hold there value. Maybe a Hilux rogue is what i should look at?

What about the amaroks?Are they reliable good cars?
My advice. U want something that is reliable, efficient and makes a statement. Thats leaves you with only one option.

The Rezvani Hercules.

You might need to speak to them about getting some of the essential extras you need for everyday driving, such as bullet proofing, smoke screen, electrified door handles, underside explosive protection, gas masks, pepper spray kits etc. But the Herc will come with ramming bumpers, EMP, thermal night vision system and console mounted gun safe as a standard package so some of what you need is there. Throw in a dual turbo V12 and boom, you'll enjoy that quick run down to Bunnings and guarantee you will always get a good parking spot.

Ok - a little pricier than other utes but still, resale will be awesome.
 

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The older the hilux the better lol they are un breakable .
Actually is funny cause its true! Mines got no turbo, no electric windows, no air conditioning, no air bags, no carpet (vynal-I use a blower then a hose to clean the interior) am/fm radio (cassette was optional) no navigation system and performs like the previously mentioned fully loaded tourist bus. What it does have is 650000km on the clock and I'll never sell it.

Just a quick note about a mate who has an Amarok and does shitloads of kays to WA. He loves it but did have a fuel filter issue that he actually ended up modifying - hes that handy type of bloke. It was difficult to access and when a fuel line blew it was a prick to sort out the middle of nowhere. These are the little dramas the old 4x4s dont have, among others. In mine for example the fuel filter is on the firewall, you can literally find it w ur eyes closed. The fuel lines and everything else clearly visible. Lift the bonnet and you see an engine, battery, radiator, air box and fuses...Its like a simple game plan where if you maintain discipline (servicing) you reap the rewards in the long term. I had to make it footy related somehow :grinning:
 

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Like - doesn't everyone need a drivers option like this in the ute?
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I'd certainly like to install a smoke screen package for my work uniforms. And if I could alter the shocking door handles into a hidden tazer the two units would be used in tandem. Pop a smoke screen then taze the aptly named Karen that makes work fucking hostile with her inability to mention something that got missed without trying to sound like a drill sergeant.


Scenario.
Other workmate (WM) enters a smoky kitchen
WM- WTF happened in here?
Alan 79- I don't know exactly. Karen was cleaning the power point with a wet cloth, there was a boom then when I stopped coughing she was in convulsions on the floor.
WM- Third time this week. You'd think she'd have learned by now.
 

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I'd certainly like to install a smoke screen package for my work uniforms. And if I could alter the shocking door handles into a hidden tazer the two units would be used in tandem. Pop a smoke screen then taze the aptly named Karen that makes work fucking hostile with her inability to mention something that got missed without trying to sound like a drill sergeant.


Scenario.
Other workmate (WM) enters a smoky kitchen
WM- WTF happened in here?
Alan 79- I don't know exactly. Karen was cleaning the power point with a wet cloth, there was a boom then when I stopped coughing she was in convulsions on the floor.
WM- Third time this week. You'd think she'd have learned by now.
Karen is unbreakable! Can she play footy...like at prop?
 

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I'd certainly like to install a smoke screen package for my work uniforms. And if I could alter the shocking door handles into a hidden tazer the two units would be used in tandem. Pop a smoke screen then taze the aptly named Karen that makes work fucking hostile with her inability to mention something that got missed without trying to sound like a drill sergeant.


Scenario.
Other workmate (WM) enters a smoky kitchen
WM- WTF happened in here?
Alan 79- I don't know exactly. Karen was cleaning the power point with a wet cloth, there was a boom then when I stopped coughing she was in convulsions on the floor.
WM- Third time this week. You'd think she'd have learned by now.
This is the Vengeance. Gotta love how the cops started having erections about the truck.
Swear if I win Powerball - I'm in. And I'll just put a little label on the door handles to make them legit. Touch this and you'll regret it.
 

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This is the Vengeance. Gotta love how the cops started having erections about the truck.
Swear if I win Powerball - I'm in. And I'll just put a little label on the door handles to make them legit. Touch this and you'll regret it.
I could go with one of these on my round Australia trip. Just gotta make sure they beef up the 4x4 system as much as they can. I didn't know they had the pepper spray option. Adding that to my work outfit too.
 

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What makes the gearbox shit in the Ranger? Can you tune or flash the gear box to make it better?
It appeared the Ranger 10 speed didnt work well with 2ltr Ive watched a teardown of these boxes and they point out the faults but no real reasons why they failed. IMO Anything that chages gears often prone to premature failure/ problems. Main enemy is heat.
 

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Hey boys,possibly looking into a ute to drive mainy for general driving, going beach, towing trailer/jetski etc

Not for off road but something with abit of grunt but not superfast or that will guzzle petrol.

Now a few boys said stay away from ford rangers like the wildtraks/raptors, they said they have alot of transmission/gearbox problems, but i see them everywhere on the road, or am i missing something?

They said buy a hilux, there more reliable and hold there value. Maybe a Hilux rogue is what i should look at?

What about the amaroks?Are they reliable good cars?
My dad had a Hilux and while it was great, it did have a gearbox problem and they needed to order the part from overseas etc which took a while to fix.

I’d say a Hilux is your best bet.
 

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This is the Vengeance. Gotta love how the cops started having erections about the truck.
Swear if I win Powerball - I'm in. And I'll just put a little label on the door handles to make them legit. Touch this and you'll regret it.
Cage for the lizards and your set,
 

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For what it’s worth, John cadogan recommends the Triton. So much so, he bought one himself.
 

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Actually is funny cause its true! Mines got no turbo, no electric windows, no air conditioning, no air bags, no carpet (vynal-I use a blower then a hose to clean the interior) am/fm radio (cassette was optional) no navigation system and performs like the previously mentioned fully loaded tourist bus. What it does have is 650000km on the clock and I'll never sell it.

Just a quick note about a mate who has an Amarok and does shitloads of kays to WA. He loves it but did have a fuel filter issue that he actually ended up modifying - hes that handy type of bloke. It was difficult to access and when a fuel line blew it was a prick to sort out the middle of nowhere. These are the little dramas the old 4x4s dont have, among others. In mine for example the fuel filter is on the firewall, you can literally find it w ur eyes closed. The fuel lines and everything else clearly visible. Lift the bonnet and you see an engine, battery, radiator, air box and fuses...Its like a simple game plan where if you maintain discipline (servicing) you reap the rewards in the long term. I had to make it footy related somehow :grinning:
I have owned or driven for work every Hilux 4wd and 2wd every model since 1972 except the latest upgrade model what always amazed me was they never stopped just become slower,
 

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I have a 2014 Ranger. It's got 185k on the clock and hasn't missed a beat. Tows a boat or caravan with ease and is decent on the fuel. It doesn't feel like you're driving a truck and the turning circle is quite decent.
Only negative I can say about it would be the aircon does take a bit of time to get cold.
 

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Only negative I can say about it would be the aircon does take a bit of time to get cold.
Only negative I can say bout mine is the back doors fall off sometimes. Doesnt really matter it still goes and without the extra weight better fuel economy.
 

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I have owned or driven for work every Hilux 4wd and 2wd every model since 1972 except the latest upgrade model what always amazed me was they never stopped just become slower,
I owned a 1979 Hilux.
They should of had a warning label on it.
That ute was built for real men!

Not these modern chicken legged boys,with some fur on their face, posing as men!
 
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