News Trent Barrett backing Adam Elliott to save his football career

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I actually drink maybe twice a year these days and grog generally has a way of bringing out the truth in people. That being said I have had many grog phases in my life and none of them were or are an excuse for my behavior.
Theres a difference between it being an excuse, and it being a reason. Of course there 8s no excuse for what he did, and i have no doubt he is fully aware of this too. But it could easily argued that if he wasnt drunk he very well may not have done it.
Personally, i think alcohol is the root cause of a lot of societys problems. People are constantly doing stupid things on the piss, especially footballers!!!
When was the last time you read an article about a footballer doing stupid shit, and also read, "surprisingly said footballer was actually sober at the time"?? They are inevitably drunk when they do stupid shit. So yes its not an excuse, but its a big part of the reason they did some stupid shit.
 

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Its a shit thing to do, i totally agree!!! But that doesnt mean he is a shit bloke. Do you also think that every other person who has made mass8ve mistakes in their life are shit ***** and unworthy if forgiveness or redemption?
It's not up to me to forgive him or redeem him. He did something in his private life that I think is a pretty average act and it become public so I'm going to form an opinion on what type of person he is from that.

It doesn't really bother me that he is a shit bloke. There's been a few players at the Dogs like that over the years and as long they perform on the field it's fine by me.
 

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Theres a difference between it being an excuse, and it being a reason. Of course there 8s no excuse for what he did, and i have no doubt he is fully aware of this too. But it could easily argued that if he wasnt drunk he very well may not have done it.
Personally, i think alcohol is the root cause of a lot of societys problems. People are constantly doing stupid things on the piss, especially footballers!!!
When was the last time you read an article about a footballer doing stupid shit, and also read, "surprisingly said footballer was actually sober at the time"?? They are inevitably drunk when they do stupid shit. So yes its not an excuse, but its a big part of the reason they did some stupid shit.
Definitely lowers inhibitions no doubt at all however I don't think possibly destroying 2 families is classified as "stupid".

Having had my family destroyed by such actions has just given me zero tolerance is all so I agree to disagree with everyone and hope you all have a great day :grinning:.
 

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Its a shit thing to do, i totally agree!!! But that doesnt mean he is a shit bloke. Do you also think that every other person who has made mass8ve mistakes in their life are shit ***** and unworthy if forgiveness or redemption?
I will never justify Elliot's behaviors...
I knew a former Balmain player who's passed away, I could write a book about the stories he told me...It would make you shiver !
Still it doesn't justify Elliot's behavior !!!
 

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Club have handled this well. In the end we are in the business of winning footy and elliotts in his prime atm
 

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He's probably on the verge of losing his family, and even if she stays there's a lot of hard work to do at home. If that doesn't change the idiot, nothing will.
Exactly right and the Court case against Lichaa's DV will reveal more and highlight the events, and repercussions, even more, if it goes to Court with more public shaming.

Or even if Lichaa seeks to not go ahead with the marriage.

The fallout is not over yet.

I'm writing this as both a female and as a counsellor and someone who wants the gravity of Elliot's partner's predictament to be appreciated as well. Also if Adam is human, he could not be in a very good head space himself where all he has atm is his footy I imagine.

Either way, depending on what level of sexual activity they got up to, Adam's partner will never be able to trust him again...and even more so if she ever sees him drinking again and how it controls his actions.

Might not affect their relationship right now if they can work out their feelings soonish, and get back together, but definately will traumatise her when they argue about anything and later in life as their relationship changes and matures.

The feeling of personal vulnerability and betrayal and that of your young innocent first baby together will never leave her. It's just a matter of being able to deal with it now but I hope she gets professional mental health care to cope into the future when the black dog barks and I hope she has a lot of family around her for support. We hear how the club is supervisong a care program for him, well I hope his young partner doesn't feel abandoned and unsupported by all of this.

Having just had a baby is a very pivotal point in a woman's life and very emotional as we know with post natal depression.

Knowing your husband wouldn't come home with you at 2am and was ok with letting you get an Uber alone with a 9 month old baby to manage, knowing the other female's husband went to bed at 1am and your partner would be alone with her, it erodes your faith already....why is he staying, it's not like his mate is still there to talk/drink with. I'd have been ropable even at that point. He really had no right to stay.

And then to compound it all, it goes public with Lichaa going off his head.

There's the hurt and then there's the public humiliation of your new father partner having a sexual tryst with a girlfriend and partner of his mate.

There are all kinds of scenarios going through that young woman's mind. Re-living past times where it might have happened. Your heart and head telling you the worse possible images and outcomes.

I just wanted to put it out there that actions have repercussions and we all need to consider a whole lot more than what a momentary nice feeling costs us in life and how it affects others.

I hope they can sort it out between them but that young lady probably needs more support and councelling than Adam does. He's got a whole team of mates and professionals and mentors around him....I doubt she has anything like that and only her immediate NT family at present.

It's a good idea to leave them alone now as far as public comments.

The club has made a determination but I hope that includes ensuring Elliot provides adequate funds to her for her rehabilitation as well, if she doesn't have the means and that a regular program of support and contact is maintained to her bc it shouldn't be all one way. Part of this alcohol program for him should include support for this young woman and child as well.
 
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Exactly right and the Court case against Lichaa's DV will reveal more and highlight the events, and repercussions, even more, if it goes to Court with more public shaming.

Or even if Lichaa seeks to not go ahead with the marriage.

The fallout is not over yet.

I'm writing this as both a female and as a counsellor and someone who wants the gravity of Elliot's partner's predictament to be appreciated as well. Also if Adam is human, he could not be in a very good head space himself where all he has atm is his footy I imagine.

Either way, depending on what level of sexual activity they got up to, Adam's partner will never be able to trust him again...and even more so if she ever sees him drinking again and how it controls his actions.

Might not affect their relationship right now if they can work out their feelings soonish, and get back together, but definately will traumatise her when they argue about anything and later in life as their relationship changes and matures.

The feeling of personal vulnerability and betrayal and that of your young innocent first baby together will never leave her. It's just a matter of being able to deal with it now but I hope she gets professional mental health care to cope into the future when the black dog barks and I hope she has a lot of family around her for support. We hear how the club is supervisong a care program for him, well I hope his young partner doesn't feel abandoned and unsupported by all of this.

Having just had a baby is a very pivotal point in a woman's life and very emotional as we know with post natal depression.

Knowing your husband wouldn't come home with you at 2am and was ok with letting you get an Uber alone with a 9 month old baby to manage, knowing the other female's husband went to bed at 1am and your partner would be alone with her, it erodes your faith already....why is he staying, it's not like his mate is still there to talk/drink with. I'd have been ropable even at that point. He really had no right to stay.

And then to compound it all, it goes public with Lichaa going off his head.

There's the hurt and then there's the public humiliation of your new father partner having a sexual tryst with a girlfriend and partner of his mate.

There are all kinds of scenarios going through that young woman's mind. Re-living past times where it might have happened. Your heart and head telling you the worse possible images and outcomes.

I just wanted to put it out there that actions have repercussions and we all need to consider a whole lot more than what a momentary nice feeling costs us in life and how it affects others.

I hope they can sort it out between them but that young lady probably needs more support and councelling than Adam does. His got a whole team of mates and professionals and mentors around him....I doubt she has anything like that and only her immediate NT family at present.

It's a good idea to leave them alone now as far as public comments.

The club has made a determination but I hope that includes ensuring Elliot provides adequate funds to her for her rehabilitation as well, if she doesn't have the means and that a regular program of support and contact is maintained to her bc it shouldn't be all one way. Part of this alcohol program for him should include support for this young woman and child as well.
Yep well said and you highlight the point that either most don't think about or just don't get.

To put the perspective of the reverse role out there aswell it is a very emotional and sole destroying experience. The black dog is a very real battle in this situation.

Having gone through the Mother of my children doing this thing while my two babies slept and me at work destroyed my life that 8 years later I'm still trying to piece together. Having gone through a medical experience with my second where I almost lost her and my boy in childbirth I thought that bond was impenetrable. When I learnt the truth with a mate of 30 years I lost my confidence, trust and my heart. I beat the black dog but I still struggle with the confidence and trust. I have not had another girlfriend or relationship since as I watch my youth fade.

Even after 8 years my babies still cry about us not being together anymore and I will have pain and resentment for the rest of my life. I now get to pay her a massive chunk of my wage as she has never bothered to work again and I see my kids 34% of the time now.

Actions matter!

Sorry for the rant.
 

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Yeah love how "alcohol" is being used as the devil in this saga and not the blokes character. These articles mean nothing every time they roll them out. Adam has managed to do well for a whole week now so let's move on...…….
What else are they supposed to say
 

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Yep well said and you highlight the point that either most don't think about or just don't get.

To put the perspective of the reverse role out there aswell it is a very emotional and sole destroying experience. The black dog is a very real battle in this situation.

Having gone through the Mother of my children doing this thing while my two babies slept and me at work destroyed my life that 8 years later I'm still trying to piece together. Having gone through a medical experience with my second where I almost lost her and my boy in childbirth I thought that bond was impenetrable. When I learnt the truth with a mate of 30 years I lost my confidence, trust and my heart. I beat the black dog but I still struggle with the confidence and trust. I have not had another girlfriend or relationship since as I watch my youth fade.

Even after 8 years my babies still cry about us not being together anymore and I will have pain and resentment for the rest of my life. I now get to pay her a massive chunk of my wage as she has never bothered to work again and I see my kids 34% of the time now.

Actions matter!

Sorry for the rant.
Bless up and take care my Bro....I really feel for you man & I know how you feel...my X wife did the same thing...just lucky no kids were involved....your soooo correct about the love & trust thing....life sux dicks sometimes....hope you get there mate.
 

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Bless up and take care my Bro....I really feel for you man & I know how you feel...my X wife did the same thing...just lucky no kids were involved....your soooo correct about the love & trust thing....life sux dicks sometimes....hope you get there mate.
Thanks man, you too. I didn't want to make this about me. I just wanted to show how these things can have massive consequences and are not just an "on the piss" bit of fun you know.
 

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Thanks man, you too. I didn't want to make this about me. I just wanted to show how these things can have massive consequences and are not just an "on the piss" bit of fun you know.
Good of you to share your thoughts.

It all relates back to each persons values and life experiences.

If people can see and hear of the hurt when these things happen, maybe they will learn from it themselves....even fans, and not just the 2 couples involved on this occasion.

And maybe posters need to accept the reason why some fans have a stronger opinion than others...they've seen the fallout to it's saddest degree.

Ten minutes of dumbfuckety and several people impacted for the rest of their lives.

We can all learn.

Bless.
 

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This my fave :grinning:

Yep his first album barely left my car for months when it first came out. Saw him play in Sydney - just as good live. Those who declined to see him live thought I was going to see a jazz trumpeter and later regretted it :-).
 

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Yep his first album barely left my car for months when it first came out. Saw him play in Sydney - just as good live. Those who declined to see him live thought I was going to see a jazz trumpeter and later regretted it :-).
Yes I gave my speakers a work out with his album.

Was heading over to Cornwall to see him but the trip fell through :(
 

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I will never justify Elliot's behaviors...
I knew a former Balmain player who's passed away, I could write a book about the stories he told me...It would make you shiver !
Still it doesn't justify Elliot's behavior !!!
Who is justifying his behaviour?
 

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The dogs had a similar problem some years back and a good half back was ruined. As with Elliott the culprit at the time was retained. So déjà vu and for what?
 
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