Toby Sexton v Sam Walker

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As the media would have it, word is Walker as of Nov 1, could test the market & command offer's of $1 mill plus ..

Is he really that good, or does he just happen to have the media hype and is lucky to play in a stacked team of internationals ?

Not that long ago, as Toby Sexton was, Walker was dropped back to reggies to work on his game, I admit Walkers come back a better player, but I’d argue even though it’s still only early days, that so has Sexton … given the quality and experience that Walker has around him and as many games as Walkers played, could Sexton maybe become a better player than him ?

Walker has the stats right now ..

2024 - Walkers 22, he’s played 19, scored 6 try’s, 21 try assists ..
2024 - Sexton 23 , but played just 12 games, scored 0 try’s, 9 try assists ..

Sexton has a tackle efficiency of 90.9
Walker has a tackle efficiency 0f 83.7

Given another 32 games in a winning Bulldogs environment like he is in now … could Sexton become a better player than Walker …

‘’I’m not seeing $1 mill for Walker either way ..

Interested in TK‘s thoughts ??
 
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The Chooks released Flanno early to us as they knew rookie Walker would be a gun half. The Chooks even with all it's gun players didn't perform that great when Flanno, Hutchinson and Lam played in their halves. Walker's defence is still his weak point but I think he's been one of the best, if not the best, attacking HB in the comp for the past few years. I think he'll get close to a million on his next deal.
However I think Sexton is good enough to be our HB for the next few years.
 
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Those stats are all over the place. Sexton has 9 try assists this year alone so he certainly has way more than that in 43 games. Also he has definitely scored tries multiple times in his career
 
1967 said:
As the media would have it, word is Walker as of Nov 1, could test the market & command offer's of $1 mill plus ..

Is he really that good, or does he just happen to have the media hype and is lucky to play in a stacked team of internationals ?

Not that long ago, as Toby Sexton was, Walker was dropped back to reggies to work on his game, I admit Walkers come back a better player, but I’d argue even though it’s still only early days, that so has Sexton … given the quality and experience that Walker has around him and as many games as Walkers played, could Sexton maybe become a better player than him ?

Walker has the stats right now ..

Walkers 22, he’s played 75 games, scored 24 try’s, 21 try assists, 16 line breaks ..
Sexton 23 , but played just 43 games, scored 0 try’s, just 9 try assists, and 6 line breaks.

sexton has a tackle efficiency of 90.9
walker has a tackle efficiency 0f 83.7

Given another 32 games in a winning Bulldogs environment like he is in now … could Sexton become a better player than Walker …

‘’I’m not seeing $1 mill for Walker either way ..

Interested in TK;s thoughts ??
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He has scored 6 tries.

Don't know where you're getting your stats from but they are wrong.
 
Must say the quality of modern day halfbacks is considerably less than older generations. Perhaps we were spoilt, definitely in a transitional phase or partially can be attributed to the speed of the modern game lowering the quality of play.
I’m a fan of Walker, eyes up player similar to Sexton in the regard his a quick thinker. Halfbacks get away with the defensive aspect if they’re good enough of the boot, though I wouldn’t necessarily say his kicking game is considerably better than Sexton. I wouldn’t delve into statistical side to much bearing in mind this is Sextons first time being the number one option. Is Walker worth 1 million? Supply and demand says yes, realistically probably not. Many including me thought Sextons ceiling wasn’t to high his gone from strength to strength this year if he stays with us and is ingrained into the system him and Walker are the future.
 
I’m one of Toby Sexton’s biggest supporters here but even I say Sam Walker is way better right now in attack. I believe that we would be a top 3 team right now if Sam Walker was our halfback all season. Toby Sexton is good but Walker is another level.
 
Walker is much further ahead but Sexton has improved out of sight from even his first game this season to now.

I’m not sure if people remember this but when Sexton initially made his debut for the Titans he performed admirably so I think he always had talent but he had constantly been playing in teams that were shit.

Walker has always been talented but if you put him in the Titans or us for his debut he would still do certain things well but would be nowhere near where he is now.
 
With a shortage of Top line halfbacks at present Walker could command 800k to a Mil. INMO I would take Toby over Sam. He is more of a bulldog and a fighter and is improving every week. Defence is first class. Hope our club shows faith in Sexton.
 
Yep sorry - few incorrect stats there - see edit.

‘’My point is, given another 32 games of solid first grade experience, a top Bulldogs team around him and strong training and coaching.

I can’t see why Sexton couldn’t be as good or maybe even better than Walker ..
 
We are riding a good wave at the moment with Sexton at HB, but Walker is a far better player and make us a top 4 team for afew years.

I know everyone likes the romance of having a 500k player do the job at HB, but its a flawed theory. HB must be the most important player in the team and for too long we have ignored this fact.

With good talent in the juniors, Gus and CC might take a chance in not chasing the next QLD halfback. This decision could be the catalyst of how they are perceived down the track...
 
I think both are at similar levels atm, but Toby doesn’t have the hype around him that Walker does though.
I’d say, for us, with our system, Toby is a better fit. In fact, when he started in reggies, he molded his game for our system. He’s 90% of Walkers attack and 150% of his defense.
…and 50% of his price.
 
Walker would cost more now, but given our success with Sexton, how much will it cost to retain him. Both are talented,but Walker has him covered for now
 
1967 said:
As the media would have it, word is Walker as of Nov 1, could test the market & command offer's of $1 mill plus ..

Is he really that good, or does he just happen to have the media hype and is lucky to play in a stacked team of internationals ?

Not that long ago, as Toby Sexton was, Walker was dropped back to reggies to work on his game, I admit Walkers come back a better player, but I’d argue even though it’s still only early days, that so has Sexton … given the quality and experience that Walker has around him and as many games as Walkers played, could Sexton maybe become a better player than him ?

Walker has the stats right now ..

2024 - Walkers 22, he’s played 19, scored 6 try’s, 21 try assists ..
2024 - Sexton 23 , but played just 12 games, scored 0 try’s, 9 try assists ..

Sexton has a tackle efficiency of 90.9
Walker has a tackle efficiency 0f 83.7

Given another 32 games in a winning Bulldogs environment like he is in now … could Sexton become a better player than Walker …

‘’I’m not seeing $1 mill for Walker either way ..

Interested in TK‘s thoughts ??
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Sexton will grow into the job. Of all roles, halfback is the one which requires most experience doing the hands on. Many good halves are in their 30s.
 
There is huge gap in the NRL halfback market that's going to get much worse over the next few years as the likes of Hunt, DCE, SJ, Townsend etc retire, a young HB like walker with his experience is going to demand huge money and will get it, I have some question marks about his longevity in the game he is tough as they come but has shoulders like a brown snake, I wouldn't be spending huge money on him. Clifford has had one decent game in the last five years against a very average faders side and they are talking him up like he is the next Immortal. If Sexton keeps playing the way he is, his next contract will be a big one, we just need to hold onto him long enough to develop our junior talent coming through for mine.
 
Sexton is our halfback, he is a good alround halfback these days, and still quite young. His defence is easily better than Walkers. He is also probably about half the cost, he is already here and part of a squad that has amazing cohesion and belief, and has improved this season. I'm happy to keep him while some of our youth options continue to develop.
 
For me you throw walker amongst good and also international players there in a rooster outfit and there you go his performance is so great
But for Sexton playing with the dogs midway through and called up from Reggie's to own the number 7 jersey is something we all have to take into account
Why cause he's changed a lot into a real consistent NRL HB even the doggies have limited Rep players but Sexton still control's the ship where confidence is building and who knows like they say Slater watches every QLD players games.
He needs to be rewarded come Gus and CC just sign and extend his contact say 2yrs he's 23 so please consider before we regret like what we did with Johnthan Thurston
 
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