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Attack on Spurs fans in Rome: questions asked over role of police
About 10 Britons taken to hospital after being set upon by large band of Italians wielding iron bars, paving stones and knives
John Hooper in Rome
The Guardian, Thursday 22 November 2012 23.31 GMT
Tottenham fans attacked by Ultras in Rome Link to this video
Questions were being asked on Thursday night about how Italian police failed to prevent a bloody and unprovoked attack on Tottenham Hotspur football fans in one of Rome's most heavily frequented – and policed – squares.
A British embassy spokesman said "nine or 10" Britons were taken to hospital after being set upon in a bar late on Wednesday night by a much larger band of Italians wielding iron bars, paving stones, spanners, knives and other weapons. Some of the assailants were masked or wore motorcycle crash helmets that covered their features, witnesses said.
At least two of the injured were being kept in hospital overnight, one of them with serious head wounds.
Several local residents told Italian media they heard screams of "Jews" during the attacks. Tottenham Hotspur FC, with its roots in north London, has long had a large Jewish following. Rome's mayor, Gianni Alemanno, said an antisemitic motive would "heighten the gravity of the attack", which he described as "terrible and disgusting". There were reports of antisemitic chanting during Thursday night's Europa League fixture with Lazio which ended in a goalless draw.
Standing with a pint of beer in his hand in the cobbled Campo de' Fiori square where the attack took place, David Phillips from Kettering, Northamptonshire, said the Tottenham fans had decided to travel to the stadium in large groups. "Everyone's going to stay together so they can't pick us off individually," he said. "We're going to the Metro and we're going to stay there until there are at least 100 of us and then go up to the ground."
Campo de' Fiori is a favourite haunt of foreign, mainly young tourists, which has often been the scene of fights and drunken rampages. Phillips said he had been in the square on Wednesday evening before the ambush was sprung. "There was police everywhere. Where did the police go?" he asked.
The Drunken Ship, where the violence took place, is in a corner of the cobbled square, which also hosts an open-air market. On Thursday afternoon, as workmen picked shattered glass from the doors and piled broken chairs in a corner, a co-owner of the bar, Roberto Mastrangelo, said: "Anything they found they destroyed. It was like a bull charge.
"They must have known the police leave the square at 1am or 1.30am on weekdays. They arrived just after they left."
But a fellow-owner, Raffaele Manzi, who returned to the Drunken Ship just as the assailants were fleeing, said a patrol car of the municipal police was still parked nearby. He indicated a spot about 15 metres from the entrance, adding: "But there were only two officers, and they couldn't have done anything to stand up to such a large number."
Manzi said he saw about 40 attackers. Other witnesses spoke of up to 100.
Rome's municipal police force is mostly charged with controlling the traffic and enforcing bylaws. But, like other Italian law enforcement agents, its officers carry firearms.
Another witness, Giuseppe Tamborro, told the newspaper, Corriere della Sera: "The Italians were very organised. They had helmets, iron bars, balaclava helmets. Some had their faces uncovered. The British were fewer – very few."
He saw four people lying on the ground after the attack. One had a scar across his forehead. "They had split him open with an aluminium stool taken from the bar", he said. The most seriously injured Briton, named by the embassy as Ashley Mills, was said to be conscious and in a satisfactory condition despite having lost large quantities of blood.
Sources at the San Camillo hospital said he had a deep head wound, which had required 20 stitches, and another injury to the thigh.
At the Santo Spirito hospital by the river Tiber, the director of medical services, Franco Angelini, said one of three Britons admitted following the attack was being kept in for observation for a second night. He had compound fractures in one foot and less serious head injuries.
The raid was initially blamed on Lazio supporters. The club's Ultras are notorious for their far-right associations.
On more than one occasion, antisemitic banners – some with references to Auschwitz – have been unfurled before matches in the north stands, the Curva Nord, which they control.
But the first reported arrest was of a rival AS Roma fan, prompting speculation the operation was the product of a temporary pact between neo-fascist supporters of more than one side.
Lazio said in a statement there was no basis for linking its fans to the incident. Six people were being questioned by police. One was reported to have been detained after boasting about the raid on a bus. The driver of the bus photographed him and then informed the police.
The attack is a grave embarrassment to mayor Alemanno, a former member of Italy's neo-fascist movement who was elected as the candidate of Silvio Berlusconi's Freedom People party. A group of his supporters celebrated his victory in 2008 by giving straight-arm salutes on the steps of Rome's city hall.
His opponents seized on Wednesday night's raid to claim Alemanno, who was elected on a law-and-order ticket, had failed to deliver on his campaign promises.
Additional reporting: Sean Wyer
British fans beware
Italy's picturesque capital has often been a dangerous place for visiting British football fans. In 1997, violence flared during an Italy-England World Cup qualifier. Several England supporters said they had been arrested afterwards and beaten by police into signing false confessions.Their allegations prompted a call from the British government for a report on the policing of the match and its aftermath.
In 2006, three Middlesbrough fans were stabbed and 10 others injured in clashes with Roma supporters before a Uefa Cup tie.
The following year, police charged into Manchester United fans after an exchange of missiles before a Champions League game with Roma. At least 18 United fans and two Roma supporters were taken to hospital.
In December 2007, the two sets of fans clashed on a bridge near Rome's Olympic Stadium. Four United fans were arrested and five others stabbed in the fray.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/22/attack-spurs-fans-rome
About 10 Britons taken to hospital after being set upon by large band of Italians wielding iron bars, paving stones and knives
John Hooper in Rome
The Guardian, Thursday 22 November 2012 23.31 GMT
Tottenham fans attacked by Ultras in Rome Link to this video
Questions were being asked on Thursday night about how Italian police failed to prevent a bloody and unprovoked attack on Tottenham Hotspur football fans in one of Rome's most heavily frequented – and policed – squares.
A British embassy spokesman said "nine or 10" Britons were taken to hospital after being set upon in a bar late on Wednesday night by a much larger band of Italians wielding iron bars, paving stones, spanners, knives and other weapons. Some of the assailants were masked or wore motorcycle crash helmets that covered their features, witnesses said.
At least two of the injured were being kept in hospital overnight, one of them with serious head wounds.
Several local residents told Italian media they heard screams of "Jews" during the attacks. Tottenham Hotspur FC, with its roots in north London, has long had a large Jewish following. Rome's mayor, Gianni Alemanno, said an antisemitic motive would "heighten the gravity of the attack", which he described as "terrible and disgusting". There were reports of antisemitic chanting during Thursday night's Europa League fixture with Lazio which ended in a goalless draw.
Standing with a pint of beer in his hand in the cobbled Campo de' Fiori square where the attack took place, David Phillips from Kettering, Northamptonshire, said the Tottenham fans had decided to travel to the stadium in large groups. "Everyone's going to stay together so they can't pick us off individually," he said. "We're going to the Metro and we're going to stay there until there are at least 100 of us and then go up to the ground."
Campo de' Fiori is a favourite haunt of foreign, mainly young tourists, which has often been the scene of fights and drunken rampages. Phillips said he had been in the square on Wednesday evening before the ambush was sprung. "There was police everywhere. Where did the police go?" he asked.
The Drunken Ship, where the violence took place, is in a corner of the cobbled square, which also hosts an open-air market. On Thursday afternoon, as workmen picked shattered glass from the doors and piled broken chairs in a corner, a co-owner of the bar, Roberto Mastrangelo, said: "Anything they found they destroyed. It was like a bull charge.
"They must have known the police leave the square at 1am or 1.30am on weekdays. They arrived just after they left."
But a fellow-owner, Raffaele Manzi, who returned to the Drunken Ship just as the assailants were fleeing, said a patrol car of the municipal police was still parked nearby. He indicated a spot about 15 metres from the entrance, adding: "But there were only two officers, and they couldn't have done anything to stand up to such a large number."
Manzi said he saw about 40 attackers. Other witnesses spoke of up to 100.
Rome's municipal police force is mostly charged with controlling the traffic and enforcing bylaws. But, like other Italian law enforcement agents, its officers carry firearms.
Another witness, Giuseppe Tamborro, told the newspaper, Corriere della Sera: "The Italians were very organised. They had helmets, iron bars, balaclava helmets. Some had their faces uncovered. The British were fewer – very few."
He saw four people lying on the ground after the attack. One had a scar across his forehead. "They had split him open with an aluminium stool taken from the bar", he said. The most seriously injured Briton, named by the embassy as Ashley Mills, was said to be conscious and in a satisfactory condition despite having lost large quantities of blood.
Sources at the San Camillo hospital said he had a deep head wound, which had required 20 stitches, and another injury to the thigh.
At the Santo Spirito hospital by the river Tiber, the director of medical services, Franco Angelini, said one of three Britons admitted following the attack was being kept in for observation for a second night. He had compound fractures in one foot and less serious head injuries.
The raid was initially blamed on Lazio supporters. The club's Ultras are notorious for their far-right associations.
On more than one occasion, antisemitic banners – some with references to Auschwitz – have been unfurled before matches in the north stands, the Curva Nord, which they control.
But the first reported arrest was of a rival AS Roma fan, prompting speculation the operation was the product of a temporary pact between neo-fascist supporters of more than one side.
Lazio said in a statement there was no basis for linking its fans to the incident. Six people were being questioned by police. One was reported to have been detained after boasting about the raid on a bus. The driver of the bus photographed him and then informed the police.
The attack is a grave embarrassment to mayor Alemanno, a former member of Italy's neo-fascist movement who was elected as the candidate of Silvio Berlusconi's Freedom People party. A group of his supporters celebrated his victory in 2008 by giving straight-arm salutes on the steps of Rome's city hall.
His opponents seized on Wednesday night's raid to claim Alemanno, who was elected on a law-and-order ticket, had failed to deliver on his campaign promises.
Additional reporting: Sean Wyer
British fans beware
Italy's picturesque capital has often been a dangerous place for visiting British football fans. In 1997, violence flared during an Italy-England World Cup qualifier. Several England supporters said they had been arrested afterwards and beaten by police into signing false confessions.Their allegations prompted a call from the British government for a report on the policing of the match and its aftermath.
In 2006, three Middlesbrough fans were stabbed and 10 others injured in clashes with Roma supporters before a Uefa Cup tie.
The following year, police charged into Manchester United fans after an exchange of missiles before a Champions League game with Roma. At least 18 United fans and two Roma supporters were taken to hospital.
In December 2007, the two sets of fans clashed on a bridge near Rome's Olympic Stadium. Four United fans were arrested and five others stabbed in the fray.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/22/attack-spurs-fans-rome
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Yeah that definately wasn't good considering we gave up a 2-1 lead.
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The BBC's Jon Brain said men in balaclavas gathered outside the pub and tried to force their way in
Tottenham Hotspur fans have been attacked in a bar in the French city of Lyon on the eve of their side's Europa League tie.
Three supporters were taken to hospital after a group of men wearing balaclavas smashed the Smoking Dog Pub's windows. Other fans were hurt by flying glass.
Lyon-based journalist Alexander Aucott said the windows were smashed with tables and chairs from another bar.
The Foreign Office later confirmed it was looking into reports of the attack.
It took place nearly 24 hours before the match, in the last-32 stage of the tournament.
Tottenham won the first-leg of the tie 2-1 at their White Hart Lane ground last Thursday.
Lit flare
Sports journalist Christian Radnedge, a Tottenham fan, who was in the bar - an English-style pub - told BBC Radio 5 live the men gave Nazi salutes before launching the attack.
He said he did not believe the men were Lyon fans.
Among other things, a lit flare is understood to have been thrown into the bar, which was filled with up to 150 fans, landlord Dave Eales, originally from Nottinghamshire, said.
"The front of the pub, which is made up of reinforced glass, was attacked by 20 to 25 people," he said.
"They threw projectiles through the windows. There was a stand-off. They didn't get into the bar. Then it calmed down.
"[But] then they came back a second time and it all started again. There were three injured Tottenham fans taken away by ambulance.
"One of them had a head injury. I'm not sure how bad it was."
Rome attack
A club spokesman said a group of about 50 people had confronted fans.
"The situation was dealt with and arrests were made within the hour. Three fans sustained minor injuries and received prompt medical assistance," he added.
"Spurs officials and stewards will be in the city throughout the day, along with matchday French police ahead of kick-off."
Labour MP for Tottenham David Lammy has called for a review of security surrounding fans, particularly when they are travelling in Europe.
He said: "We need to be sure that clubs like Spurs which are inclusive are not now subjected to attacks in this way."
In November, Tottenham fans were targeted in an attack in Rome - apparently with an anti-Semitic motive - ahead of the club's match with Lazio.
"Rome was fresh in everyone's minds," said Mr Radnedge. "Everyone realised this was serious.
"They left and then we thought that was it, but five minutes later it started again.
"The intruders did not get into the bar because it was full of Spurs fans."
Police in Lyon did not provide any details of the events at the bar when contacted by the BBC.
The BBC's Jon Brain said men in balaclavas gathered outside the pub and tried to force their way in
Tottenham Hotspur fans have been attacked in a bar in the French city of Lyon on the eve of their side's Europa League tie.
Three supporters were taken to hospital after a group of men wearing balaclavas smashed the Smoking Dog Pub's windows. Other fans were hurt by flying glass.
Lyon-based journalist Alexander Aucott said the windows were smashed with tables and chairs from another bar.
The Foreign Office later confirmed it was looking into reports of the attack.
It took place nearly 24 hours before the match, in the last-32 stage of the tournament.
Tottenham won the first-leg of the tie 2-1 at their White Hart Lane ground last Thursday.
Lit flare
Sports journalist Christian Radnedge, a Tottenham fan, who was in the bar - an English-style pub - told BBC Radio 5 live the men gave Nazi salutes before launching the attack.
He said he did not believe the men were Lyon fans.
Among other things, a lit flare is understood to have been thrown into the bar, which was filled with up to 150 fans, landlord Dave Eales, originally from Nottinghamshire, said.
"The front of the pub, which is made up of reinforced glass, was attacked by 20 to 25 people," he said.
"They threw projectiles through the windows. There was a stand-off. They didn't get into the bar. Then it calmed down.
"[But] then they came back a second time and it all started again. There were three injured Tottenham fans taken away by ambulance.
"One of them had a head injury. I'm not sure how bad it was."
Rome attack
A club spokesman said a group of about 50 people had confronted fans.
"The situation was dealt with and arrests were made within the hour. Three fans sustained minor injuries and received prompt medical assistance," he added.
"Spurs officials and stewards will be in the city throughout the day, along with matchday French police ahead of kick-off."
Labour MP for Tottenham David Lammy has called for a review of security surrounding fans, particularly when they are travelling in Europe.
He said: "We need to be sure that clubs like Spurs which are inclusive are not now subjected to attacks in this way."
In November, Tottenham fans were targeted in an attack in Rome - apparently with an anti-Semitic motive - ahead of the club's match with Lazio.
"Rome was fresh in everyone's minds," said Mr Radnedge. "Everyone realised this was serious.
"They left and then we thought that was it, but five minutes later it started again.
"The intruders did not get into the bar because it was full of Spurs fans."
Police in Lyon did not provide any details of the events at the bar when contacted by the BBC.
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