The real outcomes of the alt-right.

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White supremacist extremists will remain the deadliest domestic terror threat to the United States, according to the Department of Homeland Security's first annual homeland threat assessment — a document that details a range of threats from election interference to unprecedented storms.

Since 2018, White supremacists have conducted more lethal attacks in the US than any other domestic extremist movement, demonstrating a "longstanding intent" to target racial and religious minorities, members of the LGBTQ+ community, politicians and those they believe promote multiculturalism and globalisation, according to the report.

As Secretary, I am concerned about any form of violent extremism," acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf said in the report.
"However, I am particularly concerned about White supremacist violent extremists who have been exceptionally lethal in their abhorrent, targeted attacks in recent years."

Violence, violence and more violence, that is the manifesto of the alt-right. These groups are now considered "the deadliest domestic terror threat to the United States".

Something to be proud of no doubt.
 

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Yes I suppose it was white supremacists who caused 2-3 months of chaos and anarchy in so many U.S. cities in 2020.

White supremacists are just as fkd up as black supremacists - many of whom are part of the BLM organisation.
 

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Facebook said it will ban any pages, groups, and Instagram accounts representing the conspiracy theory QAnon from its platform.

The move comes three years after the far-right conspiracy theory began. During those years QAnon adherents have embraced a number of different and often contradictory theories, but the basic false beliefs underlying QAnon are claims about a cabal of politicians and A-list celebrities engaging in child sex abuse, and a "deep state" effort to undermine President Trump. Last year an FBI office warned that Q adherents are a domestic terrorism threat.

Facebook's move will be welcomed by some, but the platform has allowed the conspiracy to grow and spread for years.

If its not violence, its conspiracy theories, lies and threats the alt-right peddle.
 

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I've always been curious - is QAnon based on a particular social media platform? Where do they 'exist'?
 

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Yes I suppose it was white supremacists who caused 2-3 months of chaos and anarchy in so many U.S. cities in 2020.

White supremacists are just as fkd up as black supremacists - many of whom are part of the BLM organisation.
Feel free to post where the Department of Homeland Security identify black supremacists in the BLM movement.
 

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btw - if the intention of this thread is to point out that:

- ideologies are self defeating; and
- far right extremists espouse racism.

I agree whole heartedly and you won't hear me disagreeing.
 

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btw - if the intention of this thread is to point out that:

- ideologies are self defeating; and
- far right extremists espouse racism.

I agree whole heartedly and you won't hear me disagreeing.
and violence and bigotry and hate speech and prejudice and intolerance...

Do you only ever look at things through your right eye?
 

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and violence and bigotry and hate speech and prejudice and intolerance...

Do you only ever look at things through your right eye?
I'm not sure what you're trying to say, but yes, most sane people agree with you.

Racism / violence / bigotry and anything else you can come up with are all wrong.
 

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I'm not sure what you're trying to say, but yes, most sane people agree with you.

Racism / violence / bigotry and anything else you can come up with are all wrong.
So why do you support a person who supports these concepts and uses them as political tools?
 

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Yes I suppose it was white supremacists who caused 2-3 months of chaos and anarchy in so many U.S. cities in 2020.

White supremacists are just as fkd up as black supremacists - many of whom are part of the BLM organisation.
yeah actually they sort of did, its like if a husband attacks his wife for years with abuse and then she gets pissed off and cuts his penis off as revenge, he caused it
 

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Oh tough one, let me think...ummmmmm a person you support that sprouts racism and bigotry...I've got one, Donald Trump, you heard of him?
What's your specific example of him doing something that is racist?

Just so you know, we are unlikely to form agreement on this given you are satisfied Trump is unequivocally a racist and won't be convinced otherwise.

Personally, I think Trump is imperfect (as we all are). But no, I don't believe he is a racist person.

The problem is that in 2020, the bar by which racism is measured has been set so low that everyone is racist. You don't even need to do anything racist to be called racist.
 

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What's your specific example of him doing something that is racist?

Just so you know, we are unlikely to form agreement on this given you are satisfied Trump is unequivocally a racist and won't be convinced otherwise.

Personally, I think Trump is imperfect (as we all are). But no, I don't believe he is a racist person.

The problem is that in 2020, the bar by which racism is measured has been set so low that everyone is racist. You don't even need to do anything racist to be called racist.
That's racist bringing race into it
 

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What's your specific example of him doing something that is racist?

Just so you know, we are unlikely to form agreement on this given you are satisfied Trump is unequivocally a racist and won't be convinced otherwise.

Personally, I think Trump is imperfect (as we all are). But no, I don't believe he is a racist person.

The problem is that in 2020, the bar by which racism is measured has been set so low that everyone is racist. You don't even need to do anything racist to be called racist.

  • 1973: The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to Black tenants and lied to Black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to previous discrimination.
  • 1980s: Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, accused another one of Trump’s businesses of discrimination. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” Brown said. “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.”
  • 1989: In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four Black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a nice guy in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.
  • 1991: A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a Black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”
  • 1992: The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred Black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices.
  • 1993: In congressional testimony, Trump said that some Native American reservations operating casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”
  • 2000: In opposition to a casino proposed by the St. Regis Mohawk tribe, which he saw as a financial threat to his casinos in Atlantic City, Trump secretly ran a series of ads suggesting the tribe had a “record of criminal activity [that] is well documented.”
  • 2004: In season two of The Apprentice, Trump fired Kevin Allen, a Black contestant, for being overeducated. “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything,” Trump said on the show. “At some point you have to say, ‘That’s enough.’”
  • 2005: Trump publicly pitched what was essentially The Apprentice: White People vs. Black People. He said he “wasn’t particularly happy” with the most recent season of his show, so he was considering “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.”
  • 2010: In 2010, there was a huge national controversy over the “Ground Zero Mosque” — a proposal to build a Muslim community center in Lower Manhattan, near the site of the 9/11 attacks. Trump opposed the project, calling it “insensitive,” and offered to buy out one of the investors in the project. On The Late Show With David Letterman, Trump argued, referring to Muslims, “Well, somebody’s blowing us up. Somebody’s blowing up buildings, and somebody’s doing lots of bad stuff.”
  • 2011: Trump played a big role in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first Black president — was not born in the US. He claimed to send investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama’s birth certificate. Obama later released his birth certificate, calling Trump a “carnival barker.” The research has found a strong correlation between birtherism, as the conspiracy theory is called, and racism. But Trump has reportedly continued pushing this conspiracy theory in private.
  • 2011: While Trump suggested that Obama wasn’t born in the US, he also argued that maybe Obama wasn’t a good enough student to have gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law School, and demanded Obama release his university transcripts. Trump claimed, “I heard he was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?”
 

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