News Phil Gould's $6m Carnage At Penrith Panthers, Canterbury Bulldogs

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The problem with the current media is they focus on the end of Gus' tenure at Penrith, which in hindsight had some mixed outcomes, but thats football. The obvious criticisms are being against Ivan Cleary coming back & the signings of Blake, DWZ and RCG. Recruitment is mixed; Blake & DWZ aern't the greatest but RCG is playing career best footy at Parra & made Origin. He would be an instant starter in this Panthers pack.































Ivan Cleary has directly benefited from the investment Gus made into juniors, as we all know. However fairness to Penrith & Cleary, they've made some excellent signings in Korisau & Capewell (and to a lesser extent Eisenhuth & Sorensen), so to say all their success is down to Gus is disingenuos.































Gus started there in 2011 and a lot of the success they are now reaping is because of him. By the time 2019 rolled around, it was just a matter of both parties needed a new direction. Thats business and that's football; nothing lasts forever. There is an obvious media bias by Fox against Gus; they will outline his failures at Penrith but will never mention him when they discuss Penrith's excellent juniors & pathways.































If you tell me that in 8 years, we end up with the best juniors pathways in the league and the price of that was a couple of coach payouts & a few average signings than i will sign on the dotted line in a heartbeat.














This is all in hindsight.



Back in 2018-19 no Bulldogs fan was jealous of Penrith or their pathways.



It's only through the Ivan Cleary success that Gus's work has been lauded.



Not enough credit goes to Cleary for bringing up the young gun players and maintaining a championship team even after losing premiership players.
 

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Just curious . . . What's the difference between a "gun junior" and a " junior who has potential " is it just opinion ?
Gun junior = Sualii, Walker, DCE etc
Junior who has potential is someone like BBO, Wakeham etc who didnt set the world on fire but you knew you would give them a chance
 

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Gun junior = Sualii, Walker, DCE etc



Junior who has potential is someone like BBO, Wakeham etc who didnt set the world on fire but you knew you would give them a chance


Basically, it's the difference between a player you can keep in reserves and bide his time or one that you fear losing as he would walk into first grade in another club
 

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Gun junior = Sualii, Walker, DCE etc
Junior who has potential is someone like BBO, Wakeham etc who didnt set the world on fire but you knew you would give them a chance
So it's time or hindsight, Shane Webcke didn't play in a rep team until origin. Plenty of "Gun" Juniors fall by the wayside. Only time reveals if they were actually a gun junior or just a talented kid
 
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Funny.....hehehehe

Cap? Isn't that something base ballers wear on their head?
There are tricks you can do.
But property and transfer it later, free meals at laundry. Fund players side gigs, give a players mother a pool cleaning job at the club for 175k per year. Tell club to pay gas bills etc.

the only way you stop this is to shine a spotlight on the players and publish salaries, like you are meant to do on a cap, not this Zionist back door deals thing.
 

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Not sure if all of that is under the cap per se. I think some of that is covered by allowance payments of some description. TT is the man for this, He is well versed in all things salary cap
TTs breakdown of Thommos salary is fantasy [emoji1787]
 

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TTs breakdown of Thommos salary is fantasy [emoji1787]
TT is a wealth of knowledge when it comes to the cap, agree or disagree . . . If you think you know better , where's your proof ?? Lol
 

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TT is a wealth of knowledge when it comes to the cap, agree or disagree . . . If you think you know better , where's your proof ?? Lol
TT is normally a wealth of knowledge when it comes to the cap.. but his breakdown of Thommo salary was impossible. Thommo was signed with great fanfare and multiple trips to England as the best prop in the world. All reports were around 850k plus. If he was on the 450k-500k that TT claimed than why was Gus trying to offload him? ...and unable to at that price. A 50/50 split would of been easy wirh mutiple clubs at that price.
 

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TT is normally a wealth of knowledge when it comes to the cap.. but his breakdown of Thommo salary was impossible. Thommo was signed with great fanfare and multiple trips to England as the best prop in the world. All reports were around 850k plus. If he was on the 450k-500k that TT claimed than why was Gus trying to offload him? ...and unable to at that price. A 50/50 split would of been easy wirh mutiple clubs at that price.
Nice rhetoric, I'm backing TT in though
 

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Based on what though?, TT knows all the stats . . . I'd loooove to know your breakdown of the cap . . .Enthral me
No need to provide a breakdown of numbers which are guesses/estimates/media spec bro. But if you think the previous management got Thommo cheap with the money we were throwing around for players like Cotric..end of the day, I hope Thommo plays well next year because we need him. I have been hoping he plays well since he arrived though
 
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Rothfield concern's over Goulds flippant spending, could it bite us in the ass again?
 

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Buzz and Gus hate each other. If buzz things we are in trouble it means the opposite so happy days Bob
We should be copping shit all year like this, acclimatising like getting hit in the boxing ring just relax breathe and get ready to retaliate, think combinations…lol
 
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