KEVIN WALTERS SACKED

Magic Burton said:
Yep. Once the review started the players weren't going to hold back. Not one player has owned it though. Cobbo podcast is the only exception to this.
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The 'review' was their chance to sack him.

They knew the problems with Kev before the review was done.
 
Gee he took it hard, the Broncs must of meant a lot to him, wasnt the coach.
 
Bob dog said:
Gee he took it hard, the Broncs must of meant a lot to him, wasnt the coach.
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Lots of problems/egos for Madge to fix that got away from Kevvie. Hope he fully realises what he's walked into. Darius Boyd has left also...probably a good thing as media are reporting he was acting as Walshs' mentor. Clean out and re-set probably the only thing can help Madge but that's easier said than done.

Boyd to Bunnies? ;)
 
Reynolds has said, the players are going to be shocked at how hard pre season is under Madge.

I can't wait to hear the whining & bitching from them.

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Kaz said:
Reynolds has said, the players are going to be shocked at how hard pre season is under Madge.

I can't wait to hear the whining & bitching from them.

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They will be too exhausted to bitch & whine.


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I don't know that cracking the whip at players with attitude problems is going to make them step up in this instance given that they've just gotten one coach booted. They're likely to try it on again when they inevitably get pissed off that they're being pushed. McGuire isn't a motivational coach. Sounds like he's a disciplinarian. I would guess they've opted for this type of coach to show the players that they've had it easy.

The club has the option to use McGuire to belt them at training for a season, come at them with a tough as nails approach and look for a coach that's going to be more palatable to them when they let him go. The risk is that the players will tank on game day to get rid of him though. And I suspect that is the most likely scenario.

Or option two would be to work out which of the players with talent are likely to be the ringleaders in white anting the coach and make an example by trading them off. But that's if they plan to hold onto McGuire.

I think it comes down to whether head office thinks they can pull the team into line or not. I'd guess eventually they're going to have to piss some if the less co-operative players off. It's just a matter of how soon they reach that conclusion.
 
Walters coaching career been a roller coaster. A few years ago, they were going gangbusters 3/4 of the way into the season, leading i think. Then they just fell over and missed the 8. Thats bad coaching if the capability is there but he cant get them to produce it weekly. Even with a few players out the whole side shouldn't play worse than they are capable of for long periods. Then last year they did the same thing but kept going, and made a GF. And this year was similar to 2022 when they were great at times but faded away at the business end, even when at full strength. So yeh its pretty certain theres something wrong with Kevins coaching style
 
Alan79 said:
I don't know that cracking the whip at players with attitude problems is going to make them step up in this instance given that they've just gotten one coach booted. They're likely to try it on again when they inevitably get pissed off that they're being pushed. McGuire isn't a motivational coach. Sounds like he's a disciplinarian. I would guess they've opted for this type of coach to show the players that they've had it easy.

The club has the option to use McGuire to belt them at training for a season, come at them with a tough as nails approach and look for a coach that's going to be more palatable to them when they let him go. The risk is that the players will tank on game day to get rid of him though. And I suspect that is the most likely scenario.

Or option two would be to work out which of the players with talent are likely to be the ringleaders in white anting the coach and make an example by trading them off. But that's if they plan to hold onto McGuire.

I think it comes down to whether head office thinks they can pull the team into line or not. I'd guess eventually they're going to have to piss some if the less co-operative players off. It's just a matter of how soon they reach that conclusion.
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The Hard ass approach only works on modern players for coaches like Bellamy and Bennett Because they have the Gravitas to command total support from the clubs they coach for, it worked for Madge in origin because it’s only three games and he could pick from the best of the best it will be a different story when he’s hurt a few of the fragile little ego’s in that broncs side and they have to deal with Madge week to week I think Madge will be a complete disaster at the Gronks.
 
maroondog72 said:
The Hard ass approach only works on modern players for coaches like Bellamy and Bennett Because they have the Gravitas to command total support from the clubs they coach for, it worked for Madge in origin because it’s only three games and he could pick from the best of the best it will be a different story when he’s hurt a few of the fragile little ego’s in that broncs side and they have to deal with Madge week to week I think Madge will be a complete disaster at the Gronks.
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I remember a few years ago there was a story about an ex coach (it didn't mention who it was) who was invited along to a club's training session. He was asked the difference between what the current coaching situation was compared to when he was coaching. His reply was that, when he dropped a player, in most cases they worked hard to get back, whereas now, if they are dropped, they ring their manager to get them a new club.

It will be interesting to see who wants out at the Broncos.
 
maroondog72 said:
The Hard ass approach only works on modern players for coaches like Bellamy and Bennett Because they have the Gravitas to command total support from the clubs they coach for, it worked for Madge in origin because it’s only three games and he could pick from the best of the best it will be a different story when he’s hurt a few of the fragile little ego’s in that broncs side and they have to deal with Madge week to week I think Madge will be a complete disaster at the Gronks.
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I'm expecting the Broncos to work out that they've got to oust some players. Madge won't survive until they make that call though.
 
When news of Walters moving on first broke the headline was he was sacked after an unfavourable internal review. Next he was undermined by the players and support staff.
Then later the spin was it was a mutually agreed decision and he decided to step down for family reasons.
Latest instalment, mensa club member Lockyer comes out and states Walters was replaced as board believe Madge had “qualities” better suited to take the club forward.
Shit stain of a club hope they get what they deserve and are also rans for the next 20 years.
 
Robbothedestroyer said:
When news of Walters moving on first broke the headline was he was sacked after an unfavourable internal review. Next he was undermined by the players and support staff.
Then later the spin was it was a mutually agreed decision and he decided to step down for family reasons.
Latest instalment, mensa club member Lockyer comes out and states Walters was replaced as board believe Madge had “qualities” better suited to take the club forward.
Shit stain of a club hope they get what they deserve and are also rans for the next 20 years.
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Kevvie didn't go to their awards night so def some acrimony there I guess and not a respectful mutual decision to depart....the life of a NRL coach! Tough gig.
 
Robbothedestroyer said:
When news of Walters moving on first broke the headline was he was sacked after an unfavourable internal review. Next he was undermined by the players and support staff.
Then later the spin was it was a mutually agreed decision and he decided to step down for family reasons.
Latest instalment, mensa club member Lockyer comes out and states Walters was replaced as board believe Madge had “qualities” better suited to take the club forward.
Shit stain of a club hope they get what they deserve and are also rans for the next 20 years.
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Funny how all the old boys attacks are on McGuire and Reynolds but Lockyer who was part of the decision has been spared. McGuire has done nothing wrong. Of the players the only one who has kind of owned it been Cobbo.

Broncos allowed Walsh to become bigger than the club. How McGuire handles him will determine his and the Broncos destiny.

Morgan and Ribot were willing to back Bennett in moving on Lewis. I don’t think Lockyer & co will be as supportive if McGuire will have to move on Walsh. They’re just hoping it can miraculously work.

Walsh isn’t a third of the player of Lewis however Walsh is closer to 20 than 30 where Lewis had just ticked to the other side of 30. Walsh brings a different type of fan and member base. Those who adored Wally were mostly rusted on league fans.

Penrith board went behind certain backs to appoint a new coach for 2019. Slightly different situations in that they didn’t have a coach appointed for 2019 as the GM sacked the 2018 coach while still in the top 4. Similar in Penrith board betrayed the GM who had sacked & appointed previous coaches, Broncos board & players betrayed the old boys who drove out Seilbold and appointed Walters. Penrith board knew signing Cleary would result in dramatic departures and a dog of a season in 2019 as he changed Penrith’s culture they were prepared to accept it and back Ivan. Will the Broncos board show the same resolve and support if McGuire says we need to sack Walsh and some others if they don’t fall into line?
 
Alan79 said:
I'm expecting the Broncos to work out that they've got to oust some players. Madge won't survive until they make that call though.
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Oates gone. Kobe survived to cull.
 
Kaz said:
Oates gone. Kobe survived to cull.
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What I meant was huge names though. Oates isn't one of the verified stars in the roster. Depending on how much the players buck up when there's consequences for taking a lax attitude to training, if it comes from say Walsh or one of the huge names leading the protest movement they'll need to weigh up if losing a star to scare the rest into compliance is worth it. I. Guessing they won't do that to save a coach untill they have a few years of under performing in succession.
 
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