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Because central Australia is too far from the oceans and our wind patterns don't carry moisture out to the desert.

Basically put, you can't make something from nothing. If there's no moisture there in the first place then you're just filling the air with salt that will come back down without the water.

Need to have a way to get moisture to the desert/farm area first.

Plus the expense. It's cheaper just to ship tanks of water out to the farms. If they can't afford that then they definitely can't afford to seed the clouds.
Just dig really big trenches and redirect water to central Australia, like I do at the beach with sand. Problem solved.
 

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Oh okay, interesting, so that's where it all started.
Which now leads to the question what can they do now? Is there weather warfare going on that we don't know about - ie floods in China to overflow their damns?
 

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I like the idea because so much of that inland area looks like it was former lakes, sea beds etc.

Assuming the weather pattern changes worked, having new inland rivers and lakes etc would help our population growth with new major regional towns and coastal cities near the coastal mouths in and out. There's other link ups that could be done as well.
And we could become the food bowl of the World. Perhaps this is why China is buying up all the farm land.
 

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Interesting, if you believe some borderline conspiracy theory stuff this falls into the whole HAARP weather controlling machine stuff. Supposedly there are 4 including US, China and not sure if we were included on that list or not. Supposedly able to weaponise the weather by creating major storm systems and hurricanes etc.

It was based on initial military research I think around the 1970s of sewing clouds with iodine to create rain. Interesting with this article that they also talked about the storm aspect of the rain clouds, and that it appears in a mainstream news website.
Yep. Automatically thought of HAARP when reading the OP.
 

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Read this it will blow your mind - do you have anything interesting for everyone to read. New things appearing all the time

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Not really, just wanted to post the mind blown photo. Moving on.
 

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Interesting, if you believe some borderline conspiracy theory stuff this falls into the whole HAARP weather controlling machine stuff. Supposedly there are 4 including US, China and not sure if we were included on that list or not. Supposedly able to weaponise the weather by creating major storm systems and hurricanes etc.

It was based on initial military research I think around the 1970s of sewing clouds with iodine to create rain. Interesting with this article that they also talked about the storm aspect of the rain clouds, and that it appears in a mainstream news website.
 

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this already Happens. water from rain in the NT and far north QLD filter down and fill lake Eyre
Can we pump desalinated water into central Australia to flood parts of it? Can then grow some fucking trees and shit. In before you say they already do this lol.
 

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Well between you and the story I’ve learnt something new. Thanks
You are welcome. There is a wealth of information out there on secret CIA operations that have had HUGE affects on man kind. Another interesting one is Operation Mockingbird. They say they have stopped, but that seems hard to believe.
 

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Can we pump desalinated water into central Australia to flood parts of it? Can then grow some fucking trees and shit. In before you say they already do this lol.
Doesn't need to be desalinated. Takes a lot of energy to desalinate water manually. If you pump salt water in there then evaporation will naturally desalinate it.
 

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Mate this blows my mind, I had no idea this has existed for so long.
 

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I agree to not around with nature. At Beijing Olympics they found a way to put salt in the clouds to make the sky clearer. Perception is everything to some
Oh dear…it’s the obsession with wealth that’s going to destroy this planet. The absolute disregard of nature is going to kill us all if we don’t wake up and realise we are the problem.
 

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I have a friend who used to work for the CSIRO. He told me about a similar plan they were discussing about 30 years back.

The original idea for it was to dig a canal right down the centre of Australia to increase rainfall and turn the land fertile, then use the crops to feed the world.

Apparently they eventually gave up becuase it was too expensive and they couldn't gaurentee it would work. Also, it's a long term plan which means if the current government pushed the plan ahead, it wouldn't help them win the next election and would probably lead to them losing the next election due to the spending.
A crafty government would promise it, but not deliver. That way, they haven't blown the budget, and can promise it again at the next election.

If they deliver on a promise, they've got nothing to promise next time.
 

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If we keep fucking with the Ecology its game over.
 
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