Gould says relax origin eligibility

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I have been calling for this for the past 20 years… I agree with him 100%. We should encourage the players to do what Brian to’o is doing….
what Cooper and Kent are saying they sound like backwards bogans.
 

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The current rules are fine. Australia will just pick someone else.
 

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SoO isn't some sort of Australian selection trial.

SoO has its criteria. International game has its own. No reason why a situation shouldn't be that someone who grew up in NSW can't play for NSW but still go onto represent their country of their family's heritage, or even their own birth, especially if there is any interest in making the International game competitive.
 

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Well if that’s the case we need to scrap the ‘Origin’ part and just call it NSW vs OLD..fixes everything…
 

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I agree with Cronk and Kent, it takes away the meaning.
That's nonsense. Look at the squads. more than 50% of each team is from pacific islands or NZ. You even had a New South Welshman playing for QLD for a whole decade lol

So what is the meaning?

The game has changed from the 80s yet some of these rules are still stuck in the 80s lol eligibility needs to be relaxed in order for the game to grow.
 

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That's nonsense. Look at the squads. more than 50% of each team is from pacific islands or NZ. You even had a New South Welshman playing for QLD for a whole decade lol

So what is the meaning?

The game has changed from the 80s yet some of these rules are still stuck in the 80s lol eligibility needs to be relaxed in order for the game to grow.
The top part of your sentence is the thing ruining it. Leave that 50% to play for their countries. Otherwise origin is meaningless.
 

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The top part of your sentence is the thing ruining it. Leave that 50% to play for their countries. Otherwise origin is meaningless.
It's is meaningless, only there to make money from dumb *****.
 

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Prior to SOO there were interstate games between NSW and Queensland, in which Queensland players were turning out for NSW because they played in the Sydney competition. These games were usually one sided affairs and nobody was interested in watching them - which was why SOO was introduced in the first place! The original concept was simple enough - if you played your junior football in NSW you could play for NSW, if you played your junior football in Queensland you could play for Queensland. If you played your junior football in England or New Zealand, you couldn't play for either. Nor should you!

It isn't origin elegibility that's the problem, it's the absence of any meaningful rules in the international arena. If you are born in another country, you should be able to represent that country. If you come to a migrant destination like Australia as a child, and learn your junior football here, you should be able to represent Australia - but not both! Your country is not just another club that you can leave if you get a better offer.
 

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Prior to SOO there were interstate games between NSW and Queensland, in which Queensland players were turning out for NSW because they played in the Sydney competition. These games were usually one sided affairs and nobody was interested in watching them - which was why SOO was introduced in the first place! The original concept was simple enough - if you played your junior football in NSW you could play for NSW, if you played your junior football in Queensland you could play for Queensland. If you played your junior football in England or New Zealand, you couldn't play for either. Nor should you!

It isn't origin elegibility that's the problem, it's the absence of any meaningful rules in the international arena. If you are born in another country, you should be able to represent that country. If you come to a migrant destination like Australia as a child, and learn your junior football here, you should be able to represent Australia - but not both! Your country is not just another club that you can leave if you get a better offer.
I think you can play for a country that isn't Australia and play SoO, but you should also have to declare a country and stick with it (or at least have to sit out for x number of years like Rugby does).
 

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I think you can play for a country that isn't Australia and play SoO, but you should also have to declare a country and stick with it (or at least have to sit out for x number of years like Rugby does).
Maybe that should be part of State of Origin as well?
 

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To'o has played to his best ability playing for the Blues. Him wanting to play for Samoa doesn't cheapen anything. If you were born in Penrith and want to play Origin and then for New Zealand you should be allowed too.
 

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Just scrap SOO
Honestly would just love 1 game at seasons end and fuck off the 3 games... But with the money it brings in we all know that can't happen.

But my idea behind that method would be to use it as a true international selection trial for Australia. Then play more test I a new pacific nations / four nations comp.
 

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SOO has become boring anyway. Teams don't hate each other. No fights, etc.....

International fixtures are the future.
 

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Origin is more of a marketing product now.. it’s original focus was all about the game and the rivalry.. than it became about who and how many watch it..
 
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