News EXCLUSIVE: How Bulldogs erred in Kyle Flanagan's first setback after Roosters axing

[KLil]

So basically it's the club's fault Flannagan can't kick or throw a decent pass. Nice.

OH my I hope Wakeham kills it this weekend throwing it all in these dickheads faces.

 

[Yougra]

Just a reminder for everyone. Anyone aged 22 is NOT a kid, they are an adult.
Turvey was 19 when he ripped our first grade side apart in the Amco cup in the 70's. Baa was 19 when he debuted in first grade for Wests and an instant success. Those legends didn't need babysitting like the p#ssies in our current team.
There are kids aged 16 who show more maturity and work ethic than the players in our team. Those kids are earning $10 per hour working in dangerous environments like deep fryers at fast food kitchens or meat mincers at butcher shops. One mistake and they can get 3rd degree burns or lose an arm or get killed.
I have several nephews and nieces under the age of 24 working 16+ hour shifts as medical interns in hospitals after 6 years at uni dealing with patients in critical conditions in ER and Flanno is earning more than 5 times than what they are on.
Stop making excuses for the many under performing players in our team. They are adults on huge salaries that the average man double their age can only dream of. They are vastly overpaid for what they produce on the field. They should spend more time on the training paddock and the gym and less time in the tattoo parlour and social media.

Absolutely agree.

It's not that complicated. He got dropped cause he wasn't doing what was needed for the team. He got a bit emotional in an interview...woopdi fricken do....and the media carry on and on about it.

Flanno should be on the training paddock day and night getting his kicking game up to standard. If he can't do that he isn't the guy for us. This is elite level and they all get paid a fortune to play the game they love.

We need a halfback that can do want TBaz needs him to do for the team. If he can't do that, we get someone who can...simple

 

[albatross]

Freddy should take Flanno for some barefoot walks in the grass to help him become a winner. Worked really well for NSW against QLDs worst ever team.

 

[The DoggFather]

Fkn lol @ some calling him kid. He is 22 years old FFS.

Time for him to grow a pair and unlatch from daddy's tit.

You constantly fuck up at your jobs and see what happens to you.

 

[alchemist]

if it was always the plan to sign Flanagan as a stop gap for one year, why sign him on a multi year deal? why pay a portion of his salary this year if you never intended for him to be at Bondi in 2021? why drop him last year if he was simply a stop gap? if you were simply waiting for Walker to come of age, why bother with the effort in signing Flanagan only to then release him a year later when you could have moved Keary to halfback instead (like they did this year)? if Walker was always the plan, then why did he not start in FG this year until only AFTER Keary suffered a ruptured ACL?

the league media in Sydney is like reading a "whodunnit?" knowing the 'Dogs are in the end always to blame

Fittler remains as always a Roosters lickspittle

 

[Dingo]

Shut up Gus with the victim shit, we're the biggest club in Sydney **** you said it. We'll do what we want.

 

[SPEARTAKVIDREFS]

Over it now, besides
Freddy couldnt even win us a SOO series against the worst decimated QLD side in Origin history.
Surely he has better things to be 'concerned' with at this point in time.

 

[alchemist]

Fuck off!

Roosters rejected him with no explanation! Left him high and dry to sort himself out! They're supposedly a "strong club" right?

At least this guy still has a job with us!

for a decade, the Roosters unabashedly signed as many 'Dogs players and coaches as they could trying to recreate our success since they had gone 26 years without winning a premiership... in 2002, they signed our Jersey Flegg coach, Ricky Stuart, to coach their FG team led by then star player, Freddy Fittler, who was voted in the 2001 player's poll by League Week as the game's most overrated player... in one of his hit pieces directed at Ricky Stuart, Gould wrote that Stuart, as a great half himself, was too hard a judge on fellow halves and noted in support of that argument that he had wanted Sticky to bring across a young Thurston in 2002... Sticky responded that Canterbury had been good to him and he wanted to reciprocate that and not raid our playing ranks

the Roosters signed Braith Anasta from us in 2005... they signed Nate Myles from us in 2006 and when Asotasi signed with the Rabbitohs, they released a press statement confirming that they had withdrawn from negotiating with Asotasi or would not meet his asking price rather than have people believe he simply chose the Rabbitohs over them... they signed O'Meley from us at the end of 2007 and when Mason had a bust up with the club and got a release from the 'Dogs before the 2008 season... surprise, surprise... he signed for the f*+#ing Roosters

in 2008, the Roosters audaciously tried to recruit Wayne Bennett to coach them but when he back flipped, the Roosters brought in Chris Anderson with Mark Bouris noting Canterbury's great culture

and let's not forget, sometime between 2008 and 2012 when SBW was not allowed to play in the NRL as part of our terms to release him in 2008, the Roosters reached a handshake agreement with him to play for the Roosters in 2013

these motherf*+#ers must have forgot

 

[bulldogsmyte]

I think he is saying that Flanno's poor performances are more attributable to where the team is at right now, rather than vice versa. And it is hard to disagree with this to be honest. If we can get some better players in the squad and Flanno gets a chance and the team wins some games and gains some confidence, we will see better performances.

Really? You should watch some of the Chooks game from last year. How did Flanno perform when he was surrounded by superstars in the backline AND forward pack in Teddy, Manu, Morrises, JWH etc? Not much since Keary was the one who created pretty much all the attacking spark. What happened when Keary got injured and Flanno took over? The Chooks crashed out. Flanno needs to learn the fundamentals of what a HB does. HB supposed to lead the team and set up tries and line breaks by reading the play, taking on the defence, isolating defenders, creating overlaps, choosing the best option under pressure etc. He doesn't know how to do this which is the problem. He has to be taught how to do it = he's not a natural HB. He should be taking lessons from 18 year old Sam Walker.

 

[bulldogsmyte]

for a decade, the Roosters unabashedly signed as many 'Dogs players and coaches as they could trying to recreate our success since they had gone 26 years without winning a premiership... in 2002, they signed our Jersey Flegg coach, Ricky Stuart, to coach their FG team led by then star player, Freddy Fittler, who was voted in the 2001 player's poll by League Week as the game's most overrated player... in one of his hit pieces directed at Ricky Stuart, Gould wrote that Stuart, as a great half himself, was too hard a judge on fellow halves and noted in support of that argument that he had wanted Sticky to bring across a young Thurston in 2002... Sticky responded that Canterbury had been good to him and he wanted to reciprocate that and not raid our playing ranks

the Roosters signed Braith Anasta from us in 2005... they signed Nate Myles from us in 2006 and when Asotasi signed with the Rabbitohs, they released a press statement confirming that they had withdrawn from negotiating with Asotasi or would not meet his asking price rather than have people believe he simply chose the Rabbitohs over them... they signed O'Meley from us at the end of 2007 and when Mason had a bust up with the club and got a release from the 'Dogs before the 2008 season... surprise, surprise... he signed for the f*+#ing Roosters

in 2008, the Roosters audaciously tried to recruit Wayne Bennett to coach them but when he back flipped, the Roosters brought in Chris Anderson with Mark Bouris noting Canterbury's great culture

and let's not forget, sometime between 2008 and 2012 when SBW was not allowed to play in the NRL as part of our terms to release him in 2008, the Roosters reached a handshake agreement with him to play for the Roosters in 2013

these motherf*+#ers must have forgot

You forgot to mention that Big Willie left our club because we refused his request to box in professional bouts in the off season and then hey presto he dropped that demand when he joined the Chooks. A bit of Uncle Nick magic?
That's why I gee up my long time Chooks fan brother by calling them "Eastern Bulldogs". He complains that was more than a decade ago but it doesn't matter to me, they'll always be the Eastern Bulldogs and they wouldn't have achieved their last few GF if it wasn't for the Bulldogs influence they bought over.
Uncle Mark was a doggies supporter as a kid but he's realised it's easier to join the Eastern Bulldogs than go against Uncle Nick.

 

[KiwiDog7]

Freddy reckons Flanno was only a short term bridging option for 12 months until Sam Walker was ready

That’s a blatant lie

 

[UndeadShadowMan]

I like how the ***** in the media have spun this. He only got emotional when they asked does his dad help him with advice. It was more about how much he loves his dad than a mental illness brought on by the Dogs dropping him. These scumbags in the media have no class.

 

[The DoggFather]

Freddy reckons Flanno was only a short term bridging option for 12 months until Sam Walker was ready

That’s a blatant lie

Freddy Is fried from years of cocaine abuse.

 

[The DoggFather]

I like how the ***** in the media have spun this. He only got emotional when they asked does his dad help him with advice. It was more about how much he loves his dad than a mental illness brought on by the Dogs dropping him. These scumbags in the media have no class.

The same Scumbags that made him cry are putting the boot into the club.

Putrid parasite motherfuckers.

 

[sifter6]

Inaccurate comparison to the Flanno situation imo, although i advocate mental health issues dont discriminate according to annual salary or priveleges..not saying he has any at all but its not implausible.

As to what you said I think you meant to call this cyber bullying?..a serious and quite prevalent crime in its nastiest forms(multiple suicides occur within the fragile and mentally impaired youth of society you mention, whom are viciously and in packs sometimes attacked by keyboard tough *****)

Cyber-bullying only exists when people use Social Media - don't use it and you can't get bullied?

 

[alchemist]

You forgot to mention that Big Willie left our club because we refused his request to box in professional bouts in the off season and then hey presto he dropped that demand when he joined the Chooks. A bit of Uncle Nick magic?
That's why I gee up my long time Chooks fan brother by calling them "Eastern Bulldogs". He complains that was more than a decade ago but it doesn't matter to me, they'll always be the Eastern Bulldogs and they wouldn't have achieved their last few GF if it wasn't for the Bulldogs influence they bought over.
Uncle Mark was a doggies supporter as a kid but he's realised it's easier to join the Eastern Bulldogs than go against Uncle Nick.

even post the Bling Boys era, we rebounded from the 2008 wooden spoon by making the 2009 Preliminary Final losing to a Hayne inspired Eels

when the Kevin Moore period started to peter out, we recruited Des Hasler in 2012 and we proceeded to be minor premiers and make the GF... we made another GF in 2014 and played finals until 2017

but with a poorly managed FG squad, a warped salary cap and neglected juniors UNDER Des' watch, we have had to endure 4 seasons of non-contention

but why are we being judged solely by our on field results from 2018-2021 by hacks that have had their knives out for us since 2002?

and for all those that doubt the strength of the Bulldogs club... name another team across the broad spectrum of Australian sport that could have endured what we did in 2004 with the Coffs Harbour allegations, the post salary cap scandal consequences and the constant references to us being cheats (even that year), Ch 9 giving Ricky Stuart a platform post 2003 Preliminary Final to dispel talk that the Roosters had won a Clayton's Premiership in 2002, the NSW Police leaking information mid investigation in 2004, the lead detective confirming for the media that he believed something had happened in Coffs Harbour, our players being criticized for the clothes they wore when being questioned by police, the El Masri criticism for not wanting to give a blood sample to the Police, prime time news programs running stories that the Bulldogs brand was dead and that the club would need to relocate, having rivals (ie. Lockyer) making jokes how many premierships we would win when you consider the Dragons won 11 straight premierships with one 'Raper', the vultures already circling with our captain, Steve Price, and Johnathan Thurston signing with other clubs mid-2004 etc.

and what happened? we won the premiership that very year... against Fittler's team no less... the self proclaimed benchmark of the league... the Real Madrid of the NRL

and just so the Roosters know how the rest of the league views them, the majority of neutral fans still wanted us to win the 2004 GF

 

[Stinger]

Why is it that when Stimson Britt wakeham and Lewis are hooked or dropped we hardly hear much from the media? I think @ASSASSIN is right. When we recruited Flanagan we took on a lot of baggage that’s going to give the media a constant source of ammunition to put the boot into us.

 

[alchemist]

Freddy Is fried from years of cocaine abuse.

and to be fair, Freddy's definition of a strong club is hushing everything up and never holding players openly accountable --> such as a club captain banging a teammate's wife, a club captain hiding a bastard child, public drunkenness to the level that responding police referred to the player in question as the drunkest person ever

 

[bulldogsmyte]

even post the Bling Boys era, we rebounded from the 2008 wooden spoon by making the 2009 Preliminary Final losing to a Hayne inspired Eels

when the Kevin Moore period started to peter out, we recruited Des Hasler in 2012 and we proceeded to be minor premiers and make the GF... we made another GF in 2014 and played finals until 2017

but with a poorly managed FG squad, a warped salary cap and neglected juniors UNDER Des' watch, we have had to endure 4 seasons of non-contention

but why are we being judged solely by our on field results from 2018-2021 by hacks that have had their knives out for us since 2002?

and for all those that doubt the strength of the Bulldogs club... name another team across the broad spectrum of Australian sport that could have endured what we did in 2004 with the Coffs Harbour allegations, the post salary cap scandal consequences and the constant references to us being cheats (even that year), Ch 9 giving Ricky Stuart a platform post 2003 Preliminary Final to dispel talk that the Roosters had won a Clayton's Premiership in 2002, the NSW Police leaking information mid investigation in 2004, the lead detective confirming for the media that he believed something had happened in Coffs Harbour, our players being criticized for the clothes they wore when being questioned by police, the El Masri criticism for not wanting to give a blood sample to the Police, prime time news programs running stories that the Bulldogs brand was dead and that the club would need to relocate, having rivals (ie. Lockyer) making jokes how many premierships we would win when you consider the Dragons won 11 straight premierships with one 'Raper', the vultures already circling with our captain, Steve Price, and Johnathan Thurston signing with other clubs mid-2004 etc.

and what happened? we won the premiership that very year... against Fittler's team no less... the self proclaimed benchmark of the league... the Real Madrid of the NRL

and just so the Roosters know how the rest of the league views them, the majority of neutral fans still wanted us to win the 2004 GF

Yes the above shows the history of the club performing under adversity especially in 1995 SL war and 2004 Coffs. The difference is back then we had genuine footballers with skill, class and toughness, attributes that is sadly lacking in our current roster. The dogs will rise again to the top the question is how long will it take. That comes down to the recruitment and the standards set by the coaching staff and the board. Underperforming, unfit, lazy or players who repeatedly do stupid things on or off the field should not be retained, its as simple as that.

 

[Stinger]

With all the media hype on player welfare & management, spare a thought for Wakeham. He is younger than Flanagan, but will have all eyes on his performance. The media will be ' waiting for him to fail ', because that will make such a great follow up story.

I hoping he kills it on Saturday, both for the team & himself

Well if he does Flanagan might find himself in Mounties for an extended period of time.