Covid-19 related debates (argue in this thread only)

[Rodzilla]

Yeah he didn't really claim much , said hopefully also stated the worst yet is still ahead and this was before the delta strain

he said that covid would end globally with 60% vaccination

yes exactly the delta strain is the reason for the change, in other words the vaccine is a flop against the delta strain and doesn't work as it was intended, now its the ongoing shield against covid because it wears off and you need to get another one, this was the plan all along to make the money and they were only acting like it would stop covid, pfizer said they would need booster shots in 2020 and early 2021 before delta strain made its debut

its the temporary shield that you need to take over and over again, but all this is done without any statement, nobody said ok now we are giving up on trying to stop covid and we are switching to ongoing treatment

this is why ivermectin is being attacked, why the WHO excluded all the prevention studies done so far and all new studies for ivermectin are done only to see if treats covid, simply not studying ivermectin to see if it stops covid proves its rigged and they don't want to stop covid

 

[DinkumDog]

he said that covid would end globally with 60% vaccination

Leaving aside the rest of your unproven and ongoing rants, what’s wrong with this statement considering the global vaccination rate is currently just over 30%?

 

[Dogna88]

Leaving aside the rest of your unproven and ongoing rants, what’s wrong with this statement considering the global vaccination rate is currently just over 30%?

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That 30% isn't really 30%. Its 90% just the big pharma misleading us to make money

 

[south of heaven]

That 30% isn't really 30%. Its 90% just the big pharma misleading us to make money

Waiting for the return of the lizard King.........




Mojo risin'


I am the lizard king. I can do anything.

Whoever controls the media, controls the mind.

No one here gets out alive.

Where's your will to be weird?

 

[Rodzilla]

im starting to see an unusual trend of unvaccinated countries in major trouble with covid, they authorize ivermectin for use, the number of cases and deaths immediately drop down and then its followed by reports/fact checkers by western media that they werent using ivermectin

the india situation i have already touched on, covid cases took a sharp drop precisely when they introduced ivermectin and areas that didn't do it are still struggling, but indonesia were in trouble in middle of july, Grappling with 'worst-case scenario', Indonesia faces more COVID-19 pain | Reuters its reported that they gave ivermectin emergency use authorisation, and indonesia also immediately greatly reduced its number of cases and deaths

when i say immediately i mean immediately, the story is from jul 15th, if you look at their number of cases it shows that jul 15th-18th was their peak 50k cases a day, now they are down to about 3k average per 7 days, then there was a confusing story by the BBC that indonesia didn't give actually give authorised use Covid: Ivermectin, milk among Indonesia's unproven 'cures' - BBC News

now all the fact checkers are denying that ivermectin is being used in japan since they have seen cases and deaths decline,

a press conference on aug 13th in japan apparently authorized its usage but the fact checkers claimed his speech is actually from feb 2021, if you search on google "Sep. 6 07:37 am JST. Japan has already approved the "informed consent" use ivermectin as a treatment for Covid and the head of the Tokyo Medical ... " you will see the link to an article that apparently had contents that ivermectin had the informed consent use in japan, but you can't read the story if you click because it has expired for some unknown reason because its being only 2 weeks old

so are we like north korea and the information is being kept from away?, btw the japanese story is not part of my portfolio because its unclear if they use ivermectin and they are the most vaccinated country of the bunch but that deleted article is very suspicious

 

[Rodzilla]

Leaving aside the rest of your unproven and ongoing rants, what’s wrong with this statement considering the global vaccination rate is currently just over 30%?

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yes but in parts of the world where they should have seen an end to covid it lived on, covid is not superman, it can't fly around the world infecting people

for example israel, surrounded by countries and people that want to blow them off the map, they are an island during normal times and they were vaccinated and failed to kill off covid

the only parts of the world that had success against covid is the parts of india, indonesia, czech republic, places that used ivermectin or apparently used ivermectin, peru was about to do the same until the new president came in and restricted ivermectin

 

[DinkumDog]

yes but in parts of the world where they should have seen an end to covid it lived on, covid is not superman, it can't fly around the world infecting people

for example israel, surrounded by countries and people that want to blow them off the map, they are an island during normal times and they were vaccinated and failed to kill off covid

the only parts of the world that had success against covid is the parts of india, indonesia, czech republic, places that used ivermectin or apparently used ivermectin, peru was about to do the same until the new president came in and restricted ivermectin

That’s the sloppiest play the ball I’ve ever seen .

You said GLOBAL.
In your efforts to pour scorn on Gates you said: ‘He said that covid would end globally with 60% vaccination’. You even posted the video twice trying prove - er - something. When shown that the GLOBAL vax rate is currently just over half that, now you’re deflecting by isolating it to ‘parts of the world’.

Knock-on Lizard .

 

[Rodzilla]

That’s the sloppiest play the ball I’ve ever seen .

You said GLOBAL.
In your efforts to pour scorn on Gates you said: ‘He said that covid would end globally with 60% vaccination’. You even posted the video twice trying prove - er - something. When shown that the GLOBAL vax rate is currently just over half that, now you’re deflecting by isolating it to ‘parts of the world’.

Knock-on Lizard .

why would it need to be done globally?, if herd immunity doesn't work in any specific area then its not going to work globally

if 100% of australians got the vaccine and 0% of other countries got it, that means it is less than 0.5% globally but australia should be ok, if nsw got the vaccine 100% and the other states 0%, then nsw should be covid free, if sydney got the vaccine but country nsw didn't then sydney should be covid free, if north sydney/manly all got the vaccine and the rest of sydney didn't then north sydney should be covid free

the only reason covid can stay alive is if the vaccine is a flop and doesnt work

ivermectin should be called the vaccine

 

[Rodzilla]

they even had to change the definition of vaccine because the previous one said it protects you and this pfizer vaccine doesn't protect you

 

[DinkumDog]

why would it need to be done globally?, if herd immunity doesn't work in any specific area then its not going to work globally

if 100% of australians got the vaccine and 0% of other countries got it, that means it is less than 0.5% globally but australia should be ok, if nsw got the vaccine 100% and the other states 0%, then nsw should be covid free, if sydney got the vaccine but country nsw didn't then sydney should be covid free, if north sydney/manly all got the vaccine and the rest of sydney didn't then north sydney should be covid free

the only reason covid can stay alive is if the vaccine is a flop and doesnt work

ivermectin should be called the vaccine

No and you’re trying to divert again.
You made a claim that was easily shot down.
Like every other claim you make, only this one just wasn’t to do with Ivermectin.

 

[DinkumDog]

they even had to change the definition of vaccine because the previous one said it protects you and this pfizer vaccine doesn't protect you

You’ve posted that several times too and that’s not correct either. You’re trolling, the question is why?

 

[Rodzilla]

You’ve posted that several times too and that’s not correct either. You’re trolling, the question is why?

they changed the definition and removed parts about immunity and protection, now orange juice can be the vaccine

 

[DinkumDog]

they changed the definition and removed parts about immunity and protection, now orange juice can be the vaccine

Your broken record is broken .

 

[Rodzilla]

lets play spot the difference!

2015-2019: Vaccines: Vac-Gen/Imz Basics main page (archive.org)

Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.

Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.
Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.
Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.

August 26th 2021: Immunization Basics | CDC (archive.org)

Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.

Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.

Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.

Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.

September 2nd 2021: Immunization Basics | CDC (archive.org)


Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.

Vaccine: A preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but some can be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.

Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce protection from a specific disease.

Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.


so yes they did change the definition, you are incorrect to say that they didn't, its time for you to delete your posts again to act like you weren't wrong lolol

 

[Hacky McAxe]

You’ve posted that several times too and that’s not correct either. You’re trolling, the question is why?

I can only think of two possible reasons why he acts the way he acts. Either:

1) He doesn't believe what he posts but he's so depressed with his own life that he wants to make everyone else's life more difficult

or

2) He believes what he posts but only 'cause he's so depressed with his life that the only way he can feel good is by believing that he's part of a special group that knows "the truth"

Either way, it's rather sad and I feel sorry for him.

 

[Rodzilla]

so if orange juice can stimulate the bodies immune system against a disease then orange juice is a vaccine

maybe running 200m or getting some sun is a vaccine

 

[Rodzilla]

I can only think of two possible reasons why he acts the way he acts. Either:

1) He doesn't believe what he posts but he's so depressed with his own life that he wants to make everyone else's life more difficult

or

2) He believes what he posts but only 'cause he's so depressed with his life that the only way he can feel good is by believing that he's part of a special group that knows "the truth"

Either way, it's rather sad and I feel sorry for him.

or maybe because they did change the definition and im telling the truth, you ask why he is lying maybe it has something to do with owning pfizer stock

 

[Rodzilla]

when they ask for evidence of a vaccine you should drink a glass of orange juice right in front of them

 

[DinkumDog]

I can only think of two possible reasons why he acts the way he acts. Either:

1) He doesn't believe what he posts but he's so depressed with his own life that he wants to make everyone else's life more difficult

or

2) He believes what he posts but only 'cause he's so depressed with his life that the only way he can feel good is by believing that he's part of a special group that knows "the truth"

Either way, it's rather sad and I feel sorry for him.

Agree except for the feel sorry bit.
Wherever the line is it was crossed long ago and would test the most sympathetic of people.

 

[Rodzilla]

Agree except for the feel sorry bit.
Wherever the line is it was crossed long ago and would test the most sympathetic of people.

i just showed you where they changed the definition of vaccine, apology required within 24 hours