Burton is just a centre (March 23)

[Marki]

I wouldn’t say no one can answer the question … I’ve answered it numerous times …

Our halfs should be Averillo 6, Burton 7 …. and bring in a specialist half’s coach .. Maloney would be great, what’s he doing ..

Most clubs have a specialist half’s coach … we don’t and we’re a team with a half’s problem ..

Those saying Averillo can’t play 6 … why can’t he …… he has an excellent running game, passing game, can ball-play, step and is elusive.

Those that don’t agree he has those skills shouldn’t be wanting him at FB because he’d need similar skills up in the line to be effective.

We already have Crichton coming and 90% sure he’ll play in the 1 ..

I have nothing against Averillo. In fact I think he is a better ball player than Burton. It is proven in Averillo breakout season where we had an even poorer team.
Burton has him for kicks.

The only reason I mentioned Avo at fullback is because Perham has failed in that spot and needs replacing.

 

[Rassayri]

If Burton’s a centre then we don’t have a half at the club lol

That’s the point we don’t have a halve at the club we haven’t for years

 

[Dogmonster]

I say put The Fox in the 7 this week and get him to chip and chase Turvey style, more chance of getting some points, and hospital passes only for TPJ.

 

[billy beane]

I've been critical of Burton all season. But we've signed him long term and Hunt wouldn't make any difference. Not as a halfback at his age or price. Again, his best footy is when he plays hooker. They just moved him from halfback two games ago because their attack was struggling and he's better at hooker.

If we're going to sign a halfback, I'd rather sign someone where that's their best position, not hooker.

News to me that you have been critical of Burton all season .... you always come to his defense.

We have argued about this several times in the past.

Hunt is a far better half in my view in that he wants the ball and doesn't go MIA. Burton is not that type of player and quite frankly i doubt he ever will be.

All i heard on here for a period was Burton needs an experienced playmaker beside him and Flannagan was holding him back.

Now somehow Hunt is not good enough and we are happy to roll with an 18-year-old kid as Burton's partner.

 

[lovemachine]

Burton played juniors as a fullback.
He can kick form fullback and still be part of the spine.
He can use his footwork to beat a man one on one.
He is fast.

 

[Marki]

Burton played juniors as a fullback.
He can kick form fullback and still be part of the spine.
He can use his footwork to beat a man one on one.
He is fast.

I'm not against it, however you would think CC is aware of his capabilities and lower grade experience.

Personally, I'm not convinced he would make a good fullback. The good fullbacks aren't shy of getting their hands on the ball.

He has particular attributes that suggest he can make a first of it but you would have to see him there to make judgement. He also needs to want to play there, either for himself or for the team. And I can't see him wanting to do it for either....

 

[Disposable Hero]

News to me that you have been critical of Burton all season .... you always come to his defense.

We have argued about this several times in the past.

Hunt is a far better half in my view in that he wants the ball and doesn't go MIA. Burton is not that type of player and quite frankly i doubt he ever will be.

All i heard on here for a period was Burton needs an experienced playmaker beside him and Flannagan was holding him back.

Now somehow Hunt is not good enough and we are happy to roll with an 18-year-old kid as Burton's partner.

Thats Kennel mentality for you!! [emoji16]

 

[Disposable Hero]

Burton played juniors as a fullback.
He can kick form fullback and still be part of the spine.
He can use his footwork to beat a man one on one.
He is fast.

Ok so this is the picture

Burto @ 1
Flanagun @ 9
Mahoney 7
Averillo 6


Is this what your thinking?

 

[CMP]

Ok so this is the picture

Burto @ 1
Flanagun @ 9
Mahoney 7
Averillo 6


Is this what your thinking?

Considering what we are throwing out there atm. Why not give it a go. We are pissing into the wind with what we are currently doing.

 

[wendog33]

I can't see Burto being a long term 7. He isn't nimble enough and far less agile, on the ball, than Hynes is, for a big body.

It's 5/8, or centre (unlikely due to circumstances) and Ciro needs to start selecting, and planning now, around that reality that Burto is not a long term 7.

 

[BulldogsNation]

This rubbish thread again.

Burton has the whole team on his shoulders, a team with a bundy cup fullback and a pack which gets dominated every week. He is still our only time we look likely with the ball.

Stop overthinking it. Get an actual 7 who can get us around the park and Burto can focus on what he does best at 6 - Burton is the LEAST of our dramas.

 

[D- voice]

I can't see Burto being a long term 7. He isn't nimble enough and far less agile, on the ball, than Hynes is, for a big body.

It's 5/8, or centre (unlikely due to circumstances) and Ciro needs to start selecting, and planning now, around that reality that Burto is not a long term 7.

Burton is a great centre now
With a real halfback he could become a great 5/8
Lets just say we've signed Hunt or Johnson and Oloapu starts playing great football but we still want Burton close to the play
This combination could work
6 Oloapu
7 Hunt / Johnson
9 Mahoney
13 Burton 5/8 and lock played the same style in the past.

 

[w00t]

Burton is to be very frank the least of our problems at the moment.

Shuffling the halves around because the forwards aren't performing and our fullback is one dimensional just seems counter productive. You can put Clearly into the halves for our team and it wouldn't make a single difference until we actually get some real forwards.

In the past our forward pack was so dominant in made a halves pairing of Holdsworth and Roberts work neither of which were stellar halves, or if you go more recent a dominant FB and a monstrous pack made a halves pairing of Kris Keating and Josh Reynolds work, again neither of which were halves that set the world on fire. You put Burton/Oloapu or hell even Burton/Flannagan behind the packs we had in the early 2000s or in 2012 and we are likely to be contenders

 

[Marki]

Burton is to be very frank the least of our problems at the moment.

Shuffling the halves around because the forwards aren't performing and our fullback is one dimensional just seems counter productive. You can put Clearly into the halves for our team and it wouldn't make a single difference until we actually get some real forwards.

In the past our forward pack was so dominant in made a halves pairing of Holdsworth and Roberts work neither of which were stellar halves, or if you go more recent a dominant FB and a monstrous pack made a halves pairing of Kris Keating and Josh Reynolds work, again neither of which were halves that set the world on fire. You put Burton/Oloapu or hell even Burton/Flannagan behind the packs we had in the early 2000s or in 2012 and we are likely to be contenders

I'm not convinced about your last sentence...

I agree that Keating-JR or Holdsworth-Roberts was not a world beating halves combo, but both those combos would produce afew times a game -every game.

Burton-Flanno can play 10 games behind a superior pack and while they'd be playing in the opposition 20m often, they wouldn't have many points or try assists to show for it.

It's not just our forwards who are not doing the job....

 

[B-Train]

I'm not convinced about your last sentence...

I agree that Keating-JR or Holdsworth-Roberts was not a world beating halves combo, but both those combos would produce afew times a game -every game.

Burton-Flanno can play 10 games behind a superior pack and while they'd be playing in the opposition 20m often, they wouldn't have many points or try assists to show for it.

It's not just our forwards who are not doing the job....

Holdsworth and Roberts were a shocking combo. They only ever put points on when it was garbage time and we were down 30.

Do you forget that Keating and Reynolds had a pack of Graham, Ennis, Tolman, Kasiano, Pritchard Jackson, Eastwood, Finucane and Stagg etc? Give our halves that pack to run behind and I dare say we'd be scoring more points and be more competitive.

 

[w00t]

I'm not convinced about your last sentence...

I agree that Keating-JR or Holdsworth-Roberts was not a world beating halves combo, but both those combos would produce afew times a game -every game.

Burton-Flanno can play 10 games behind a superior pack and while they'd be playing in the opposition 20m often, they wouldn't have many points or try assists to show for it.

It's not just our forwards who are not doing the job....

Keating and Reynolds were immeasurably frustrating in the past because they didn't have the ability to produce in the opposition 20m. In 2012 the reason the Storm destroyed us in the final was all they needed to do was shut down Barba and it's game over. Our only other alternative to scoring points was second phase play from Pritchard, Kasiano and Graham

Holdsworth and Roberts were likewise similar, Roberts would have the odd good game but they were both horrible at game management, what carried them was Patten was a damn good FB and our forward pack with the likes of O'Meley, SBW, Asotasi and Mason were able to crush the opposition with their second phase play.

I'll reserve judgment on Burton especially until we get to see him playing the same amount of games behind a dominant pack as Holdsworth/Roberts or Keating/Reynolds did.

 

[The DoggFather]

This rubbish thread again.

Burton has the whole team on his shoulders, a team with a bundy cup fullback and a pack which gets dominated every week. He is still our only time we look likely with the ball.

Stop overthinking it. Get an actual 7 who can get us around the park and Burto can focus on what he does best at 6 - Burton is the LEAST of our dramas.

Well like him or not, Hunt is the only plausible option.

 

[Shanked]

Holdsworth and Roberts were a shocking combo. They only ever put points on when it was garbage time and we were down 30.

Do you forget that Keating and Reynolds had a pack of Graham, Ennis, Tolman, Kasiano, Pritchard Jackson, Eastwood, Finucane and Stagg etc? Give our halves that pack to run behind and I dare say we'd be scoring more points and be more competitive.

it also had the dalym medalist

 

[B-Train]

it also had the dalym medalist

It's pretty easy to look decent as a half behind that pack and threat of the pace and talent of Barba that worried defences. It's why Keating never did much before or after that.

 

[_G-Dog_]

Burton great centre .. Good 5/8.. Not a halfback