Bulldogs player walks out

[1967]

I have done this sort of thing for a living. Change processes etc. Before you can change anything you need to understand why things were done the way they are currently, cause you could just be throwing the good out with the bad, who is able to assist in facilitating the changes in the organisation, be that players or other staff around the club. A good way to get everybody offside is just change things for change sake. The organisation needs a shake up, and now that CC has done his due diligence he is implementing the changes and that is always going to be upsetting to those who saw no problem with the way things worked before, but as they say if you do the same thing don't be surprised if you get the same result.

Exactly right mate …

When you take on the challenge of rebuilding a losing environment, especially a wooden spoon sports team with a long term losing culture …. as you mentioned …. you can’t just go in there demolish everything send it to the scrap heap and rebuild, in this instance there’s legal contracts involved, these are young mens careers we’re taking about and how they make a living, so you have to be sensitive to that, you need to be sure about the decisions your going to make, your dealing with multiple personalities, ego’s, plus as we’re seeing, your under the medias microscope, you have to be given time to professionally assess the full situation because there’s so many moving parts, Gould’s very aware of all of this, I feel that’s why he’s left Ciraldo alone, they’ve already formulated their plan.

Over time you start to see where the losing cultures leaking from, you formulate a plan and slowly implement changes, and you start to set standards to ensure those changes are met, some urgent problems you can’t remove as quickly as you’d like, but if push the right buttons those problems can generally take care of themselves.

No matter what new environment you go into, especially a losing one, when you start to make changes you get push back, and that’s not a bad thing because normally the push back highlights the root of the problems.

Maybe Gus & CC’s are smarter than we think they are, this year might have been an assess the situation, pull the plug and drain the losing culture, and implement winning changes type of year, remove the ones that are comfortable with the losing culture, that can’t or won’t change, and slowly start the long road upwards.

Next year should be interesting to watch and will probably show us that these blokes know what they’re doing …

 

[Taylforth]

No that's leadership. Even on NRL360 they highlighted that we don't have leaders. Guys have to speak up. That's what we need to work on, building our leaders so they have that confidence to speak up and tell it like it is. It's why the Dogs brought back Reynolds cause he always barks on the field, and Burton doesn't. They were hoping Reynolds could bring that out of Burton. Cause the leadership needs to be in the key positions.

The fact that halfway through the season the wheels fell off suggests that the leaders of the club, who will know who the players are, haven't decided to do anything about approaching those players and providing support or encouragement. Now that it has been left to fester it's impacted the whole playing group, cause you can see where things fell off in NSW Cup at the same time.

Yep indeed leadership in our team looks non existent. You are right, Reynolds & RFM were brought in to be leaders. Unfortunately neither were really good & injury free enough to hold down a top grade spot.
In the case of the chooks it is no coincidence that their form went down the drain once Sam walker was injured/dropped. He was the barking leader in the middle of the field that they needed. Since he is back their performances have picked up. Broncos (Reynolds), Warriors (Johnson), Storm (Munster/Welch) have those “leadership” types in middle of action. Not sure where ours will come from yet?

 

[Noosa Dog]

Yep indeed leadership in our team looks non existent. You are right, Reynolds & RFM were brought in to be leaders. Unfortunately neither were really good & injury free enough to hold down a top grade spot.
In the case of the chooks it is no coincidence that their form went down the drain once Sam walker was injured/dropped. He was the barking leader in the middle of the field that they needed. Since he is back their performances have picked up. Broncos (Reynolds), Warriors (Johnson), Storm (Munster/Welch) have those “leadership” types in middle of action. Not sure where ours will come from yet?

It will be a very important decision when CC decides who is going to be our leaders next year.

In hindsight I think he got it terribly wrong this year. RFM was definitely a bad decision and TBH, I’m really not sure about Burton either.

Actually didn’t Sio Siua Taukeiaho captain Tonga at some stage? Will be good to have some experienced leaders.

 

[LucasFitzo]

It will be a very important decision when CC decides who is going to be our leaders next year.

In hindsight I think he got it terribly wrong this year. RFM was definitely a bad decision and TBH, I’m really not sure about Burton either.

Actually didn’t Sio Siua Taukeiaho captain Tonga at some stage? Will be good to have some experienced leaders.

I reckon it should just be Mahoney and Kikau VC

Burton needs to worry about his own game

 

[Noosa Dog]

I reckon it should just be Mahoney and Kikau VC

Burton needs to worry about his own game

I actually just started a new Topic on it, but I like you suggestion.

 

[Dogs Of War]

It will be a very important decision when CC decides who is going to be our leaders next year.

In hindsight I think he got it terribly wrong this year. RFM was definitely a bad decision and TBH, I’m really not sure about Burton either.

Actually didn’t Sio Siua Taukeiaho captain Tonga at some stage? Will be good to have some experienced leaders.

Burton needs to find his voice and understand his future depends on it. Sexton seems to speak up a lot on the field, so that helps. But honestly you need both pushing the guys to be in position and work hard.

 

[billy beane]

It’s hard to see why people don’t view this interview and see that this is a person who understands the depths of the problems at the dogs.

People jizz about how much better Potter, Pay & Barrett were yet not 1 identified any cultural issues. If people think that is a better outcome, you are more deluded than you think.

One thing is for certain, CC ain’t gonna change his tune and this will work or be a massive failure.

When the blow torch is on, most weaker coaches fold and cave into media/fan pressure.
No matter what you think of him thus far, he has shown more spine than the last few rotations of coaches. You gotta respect that, especially as a 1st year coach

Last five games under Potter

Cowboys 28 Bulldogs 14

Warriors 42 Bulldogs 18

Parra 42 Bulldogs 6

Sharks 16 Bulldogs 0

Bulldogs 21 Manly 20

We had a typical new coach bounce under Potter and then quickly reverted to the norm.

CC has ALWAYS had my full support and the last few days have only amplified my opinion.

He is one determined tough dude.

Anyone who categorically states he cannot coach given the circumstances is a low footy IQ fool.

We also have people with agendas, such as board elections on here talking shit.

 

[John Matrix]

I just found out it was topine

The silhouette shown on the news last night pretty much confirm that it was him.

 

[Dognacious]

Gus says it was a fringe fg player who walked out. Hes going to need to be more specific. They are all fringe fg players right now

 

[Menteek]

Gus says it was a fringe fg player who walked out. Hes going to need to be more specific. They are all fringe fg players right now

Ben Barba?

 

[Rebuilding Phase]

The silhouette shown on the news last night pretty much confirm that it was him.

I laughed when they showed the silhouette … you could tell it was him instantly

 

[billy beane]

Interesting hearing Ciro in his interview today. Reckons he doesn’t know who the individuals complaining or leaking stories. Also talking about there being longer hours at Penrith and also the dogs Flegg team working longer hours.

They believe in the process and sticking with it. Results will come. No one has approached Ciro and complained about the workload.

Also an interesting point he makes about his job at Penrith where he knew the players inside out as he was there for 10 years and many of them come through over that period.

 

[Rebuilding Phase]

With no surprise, this investigation isn’t going to go very far since clubs have all but confirmed this is very normal.

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/st...uestions-off-the-mark-penriths-dylan-edwards/


“Several clubs spoken to by AAP have confirmed 'punishments' are part of their training regime, ranging from fines to physical challenges and fashion directives.

Sydney Roosters coach Trent Robinson insisted on Thursday they were required for maintaining club standards and that players knew where they stood.

"It's uncomfortable. You know, sometimes those conversations or the actions that you have to impart on people," Robinson said.

"But it's not that hard to be really clear on standards and then adhere to them. If you're not doing that, then there is often punishment.”

 

[billy beane]

Interesting hearing Ciro in his interview today. Reckons he doesn’t know who the individuals complaining or leaking stories. Also talking about there being longer hours at Penrith and also the dogs Flegg team working longer hours.

They believe in the process and sticking with it. Results will come. No one has approached Ciro and complained about the workload.

Also an interesting point he makes about his job at Penrith where he knew the players inside out as he was there for 10 years and many of them come through over that period.

CC knows exactly who the individuals are ... this stuff has been festering since midseason when a few hard truths were spoken.

Our performances really shit the bed after The Roosters game at Gosford. The Shark's match was another that angered the staff.

CC to his credit tries to keep it all inhouse.

Explains why certain individuals are not selected for NRL.

Some have to be selected due to our limited playing resources, but where possible they are not picked.

 

[88]

Gus says it was a fringe fg player who walked out. Hes going to need to be more specific. They are all fringe fg players right now

aaaah Gus with his 'F' and C's....'Cringe'...not Fringe!!!

 

[maroondog72]

I’m not sure that anyone except a handful of soft AF under performing bulldog players think that the wrestling session was ‘brutal’. For the way these ***** have played this season that is fkn light work

I used to make my u8s sock wrestle for 10 mins before training just to take some energy out of the little fkrs

 

[Shanked]

so the only one with an issue is buzz and whoever turned up late

 

[JackDog]

The enemy of our enemy....

All the best my friend.

Going for a draw, and nth QLD to get the upset and sneak into 8th ahead of both of them.[emoji6]

 

[David holland]

Just wondering if Bailey Hayward is injured at the moment

 

[piggy]

CC knows exactly who the individuals are ... this stuff has been festering since midseason when a few hard truths were spoken.

Our performances really shit the bed after The Roosters game at Gosford. The Shark's match was another that angered the staff.

CC to his credit tries to keep it all inhouse.

Explains why certain individuals are not selected for NRL.

Some have to be selected due to our limited playing resources, but where possible they are not picked.

Is this why Skelton has not being selected in first grade?