Well he does have Bulldogs (and Eels) DNA doesn't he? Can you have both? I hope so because people forget that most of our supposed legends actually moved on at some point and played for other clubs. Just caught the backend of Baa's Foxtel interview and he mentioned 5 club stalwarts like Cement who left in 89 so the club could renew and bring in fresh blood like McCracken, Pay and co. Seems this DNA thing is much more complicated than what the scientists are telling us. It morphs with age......or is that intellect...
Not Knocking the poster..........................However Hell will freeze over before Des GOs.....Did anyone hear Dogs fans ring in as they were invited to ? What was said ?
Bulldogs Deliver Des Hasler Ultimatum; Report
"The Bulldogs expect results'
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The Bulldogs have given Des Hasler an ultimatum, reports The Mole on www.wwos.com.au.
If he doesn’t make the finals this year - and the Bulldogs are currently sitting 13th, with a pretty tough run home and not playing well - it could be his last season at the Bulldogs after signing a two-year extension.
Triple M's Ryan Girdler said the Bulldogs are a big club that expect results.Listen to the full audio at the bottom of the page.
“Apparently there’s a clause in the contract that the club can trigger, saying they only need to pay him half of his wage out for those two seasons,” said Triple M’s Ryan Girdler.
“I know Des’ record is pretty good. They’ve made the finals every year for the past five years, but they won’t make the finals this year.
“Their performances on a week-to-week basis - they’ve lost six of their last seven - someone’s got to be held accountable.”
The club has signed two quality players Aaron Woods and Kieran Foran for next year, but they may want to go in a new direction.
One coach who could come in is Dean Pay, who has been pat of the Bulldogs system for a long time. He also coached the NSW Under-20s. Listen to the full audio below.
He only played 108 games for us and then he dumped us and went with Parra, deserting all his mates so he could make a quid. You want to see who the legends are then have a look on the wall at ANZ, blokes who wouldn't dream of jumping ship when things got a bit tough. Good player - yes. Legend - not as long as his freckle points to the ground. Talk to any of the real legends. Every one of them got offers to go elsewhere and knocked them back. This bloke couldn't get out quick enough. Nothing wrong with that but to apply revisionism to it a call him a legend is just plain wrong.Dean Pay played for the Bulldogs for eight years (1988-1995) and was captain for the last three.
The Bulldogs won the premiership in 1995 but due to (I think) the so called Super League war Dean Pay and at least two other forwards and maybe a back left club and transferred (again I think) to Parramatta.
So when a player's career is disrupted by circumstances he has no control over, playing for eight consecutive years, the last three as captain plus playing in two premiership winning sides in my opinion is a fine display of loyalty. And that for me is good enough for Dean Pay to be a legend.
PS: I have no idea how Greg Eastwood's career can be compared to Dean Pay's. Pay may have played a year less than Eastwood but when each player's input to the club is compared Ii think it would be Pay first with Eastwood second a long way back.
This.He only played 108 games for us and then he dumped us and went with Parra, deserting all his mates so he could make a quid. You want to see who the legends are then have a look on the wall at ANZ, blokes who wouldn't dream of jumping ship when things got a bit tough. Good player - yes. Legend - not as long as his freckle points to the ground. Talk to any of the real legends. Every one of them got offers to go elsewhere and knocked them back. This bloke couldn't get out quick enough. Nothing wrong with that but to apply revisionism to it a call him a legend is just plain wrong.
He only played 108 games for us and then he dumped us and went with Parra, deserting all his mates so he could make a quid. You want to see who the legends are then have a look on the wall at ANZ, blokes who wouldn't dream of jumping ship when things got a bit tough. Good player - yes. Legend - not as long as his freckle points to the ground. Talk to any of the real legends. Every one of them got offers to go elsewhere and knocked them back. This bloke couldn't get out quick enough. Nothing wrong with that but to apply revisionism to it a call him a legend is just plain wrong.
This.
FFS, why not ask Jarrod McKracken and Jason Smith back as well...
I read it the first time, but it has no relevance as the rest of his team mates stayed together and worked for each other while the mercenaries left and went to Parramatta. I remember it all very well. It was disgraceful what those 3 did, dumping and running on their mates and this is the sort of passion and commitment you want from an incoming coach? It's no better than what SBW did. Chase the money and bugger your mates. One last thing; look at the quality of the individuals who went with him.....As I posted before: " but due to (I think) the so called Super League war Dean Pay and at least two other forwards and maybe a back left club and transferred (again I think ) to Parramatta."
So Oatley Dog I suggest you read the post above fromm Croydon Dog.
It is obvious that Dean Pay did not walk out on the Bulldogs by himself, that there was a disruptive influence within the game that caused a number of players to leave the Dogs at the same time.
To answer your question about Des' dictatorship, I was listening to someone on the radio (xfootballer)and he stated that des has segregated the field into different sectors and he expects player to hit certain points in those sectors at a certain time otherwise he loses he sh!t.... so in short - no dymock has absolutely no say ... dymock was probably only kept on for PR reasons so they can say that a former player is in the coaching ranksWhen we replace Des it feels like time to go for an ex Bulldog.
Something about becoming the Dogs again seems right.
On another question - whats the word with Dymock?
He is either a hopeless attack coach who will get the chop
OR,
He is totally controlled by Des.
Anyone know?
I read it the first time, but it has no relevance as the rest of his team mates stayed together and worked for each other while the mercenaries left and went to Parramatta. I remember it all very well. It was disgraceful what those 3 did, dumping and running on their mates and this is the sort of passion and commitment you want from an incoming coach? It's no better than what SBW did. Chase the money and bugger your mates. One last thing; look at the quality of the individuals who went with him.....
That my friend is exactly how I see it!!There is no way they will get rid of Hasler without him having a good shot with Woods and Foran in the team.
No way.
He will be given all of next year and if the doesnt make a deep run in the semis then he will get canned.
I missed that quoted post,That my friend is exactly how I see it!!
I disagree with you on "I want Des gone as much as the next Guy"! I am not one of the so called "next Guys"!!! I still believe he is the right person to coach the Doggies TBH and I believe we will be a different side with the additional troops on their way, with a little more of a clean out of dead wood and some opportunities for a few of our young blokes coming through the ranks.I missed that quoted post,
It answers my question above,
And like I said,
I want Des gone as much as the next guy,
But he has to be given a chance now he has signed, with the new players coming,
If nothing changed, I'm all for letting him go.
The more i read your posts the more i believe you're delusioned at the absolute highest order TBH only thing goin for u is your new avatar TBHI disagree with you on "I want Des gone as much as the next Guy"! I am not one of the so called "next Guys"!!! I still believe he is the right person to coach the Doggies TBH and I believe we will be a different side with the additional troops on their way, with a little more of a clean out of dead wood and some opportunities for a few of our young blokes coming through the ranks.
Well how much longer does he need?I missed that quoted post,
It answers my question above,
And like I said,
I want Des gone as much as the next guy,
But he has to be given a chance now he has signed, with the new players coming,
If nothing changed, I'm all for letting him go.