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News Bulldogs could be denied salary cap relief for Kieran Foran injury!

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  1. Pity Fool

    Pity Fool Previously Blue & White Dynamite Gilded

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    Well well well, isn’t this a surprise? How typical of the NRL to deny us relief yet Souths most likely get salary cap relief for Sam Burgess when he is on over a million per season and his contract doesn’t end until 2022! Both are pending but I wouldn’t be surprised for Souths to approved for his full sum and us not even getting $350k relief!
     
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  2. Ant2611

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    What proof makes you believe this to be the case?
     
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  3. Scoooby

    Scoooby Immortal Premium Member Gilded

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    The circus is in full swing an keeps getting even more silly by the second..!! Whatever happens, Wont surprise tbh.
     
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  4. Dognacious

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    Source?

    And if it's true, Sam is actually retired, and Foran isn't yet so...
     
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  5. DinkumDog

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    The Terrorgraph?

    a) Few RL stories in December...
    b) The cricket is very one-sided...
    c) Grain of salt time...
     
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  6. Pity Fool

    Pity Fool Previously Blue & White Dynamite Gilded

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    The source was Paul Crawley @ Daily Telegraph.
     
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  7. Moedogg

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    Our club can't catch a break..... Fuk it! Time to rort the cap!
     
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  8. Pity Fool

    Pity Fool Previously Blue & White Dynamite Gilded

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    Indeed it was the Terrorgraph! Their stories don’t hold much weight with me, however, Paul Crawley wrote the article and he has more substance than other journo’s from that rag ie Rothfield etc imo!
     
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    Farcical. But 350k is just about as good as nil as substitute for a 1.2M marquee player, so I’m not bothered.

    Great opportunity for Jack to cement his place as our little General #7. Lewis/Wakeham/Averillo to battle it out to play second fiddle.

    It’ll be good for these young blokes to string some games together without Foran floating in and out of the team.
     
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  10. DinkumDog

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    Fair call mate but at the end of the day the Terrorgraph are known more for their fiction writing than anything else. Considering the time of year and not much else going on sport wise, I wouldn’t buy too much into this unless a credible source emerges. Cheers.
     
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  11. Pity Fool

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    There is no proof mate, it’s just a news story written by Paul Crawley. Was worthy of a thread due to our current predicament with Foran and the status quo of the game in general where some teams are given certain privileges and others aren’t. Like I stated “ both cases are pending” but wouldn’t be surprised if we were duded in the process!
     
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  12. Jackson_1994

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    In a predicament that exposes an unfairness in the NRL’s system for salary cap relief, the Bulldogs could be penalised despite losing Kieran Foran to a shoulder injury while playing for New Zealand.
    Kieran Foran is so hellbent on recovering from his recent shoulder surgery that he could cost Canterbury any salary cap relief.

    In a predicament that exposes a glaring unfairness in the NRL’s system, the Bulldogs could be penalised for Foran’s determination to recover from the shocking injury he suffered while playing for New Zealand.

    While it was initially feared he could miss all of next season, Foran is telling people close to him that he has set himself a target to be back playing by June at the latest, but possibly at some stage in May.

    Unfortunately for the Bulldogs, clubs are only entitled to a maximum of $350,000 in cap relief for a player injured while on representative duty if the player has been sidelined for at least 12 NRL games.

    Foran’s timeline would potentially have him back on the field just before that period elapses, meaning the Bulldogs would be out of pocket unless there was an immediate change to the guidelines.

    The Bulldogs are expected to appeal to the NRL that regardless of when Foran returns they should still be entitled to the maximum salary cap relief.

    The club is expected to get the surgeon’s final report this week and present it to the NRL.

    The determination will set a precedent given no other club has yet qualified for the representative injury relief.

    Canberra missed out when Jordan Rapana returned to the field just short of the 12-match cut-off.

    The Bulldogs would argue that all indications from medical experts were that Foran was facing a minimum of six months on the sideline but possibly as many as 10
    It seems ludicrous that the limit is capped at $350,000 for all players, especially when Foran is the Bulldogs’ highest- paid player on $1.2 million.

    He was also fit and healthy when he left for Kiwi camp but returned home requiring two shoulder operations.

    There is no disputing when the injury occurred given it happened in front of everyone watching the Test.

    It would also seem unfair to make a club wait until June to find out if it qualifies for salary cap relief. By then, it would probably be too late to spend the money in next year’s cap.

    Foran has every reason to be pushing himself to get back early given he is off contract at the end of next season and will be fighting for his future.

    He is 29 but has indicated he has no plan to retire any time soon. The football he played this year was proof that, when fit, he is still up with the NRL’s elite playmakers

    That's the article
     
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  13. Pity Fool

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    Cheers mate!
     
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  14. bradyk

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    I don't think they're going to change the rules for us (I don't actually know what the rule is). Whatever the rules state is what we should get and that's the same for any club. I don't necessarily agree with the ruling (assuming it's capped at 350k) especially for a marquee player on his last year expected to be out for all (?) of the season. To prevent a loophole maybe they could make it as long as we agree to not re-sign Foran after 2020 that we could get the 1.2m in full...
     
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    Foran will come back early and then get injured again fucken dumb fuck seriously kieran we love your heart but turn your fucking brain on
     
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    Sooo would it be so hard for the NRL to tell the dogs they can have the $350k cap relief now on the proviso that Foran cannot play for first 12 rounds even if he makes some miracle recovery and is available before then?

    Then if the dogs did play Foz before rd13, the $350k relief would be null and void and the extra player signed would no longer be registered by the NRL to play.

    This chance that Foz plays before rd13 are slim to none anyway, if he did he’d likely re-injure himself anyway
     
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  18. NPC83

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    I think the club doctor has to hold back on his clearance until after round 12... $350k is the least we should get. The rule should be changed to half the players salary. If a player is on $600k for example they would still get $350k in the exact same circumstances?
     
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    Hang on.
    You say "that's the rule, same for any club"
    Then you say to "prevent a loophole" we agree not to resign Foron for 2021 and we get the full $1.2m.
    Isn't that the very definition of a loophole?
     
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  20. Trafford10

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    Seriously what a nothing bullshit article based on ifs & maybes. Rugby league journalism (oxymoron right there) at it's usual pathetic low.

    More interesting is the Souffs situation.
    They got the NRL to agree to "medically retire" Inglis for being a habitual drunkard and now looking to medically retire Sam Burgess also.

    Burgess maybe a much more legitimate case than Inglis. However my understanding is that no claim has been put to the insurance underwriter CGU with respect to Inglis?

    I assume Souffs just paid him out the remainder of his contract and the NRL just subtracted that from Souffs salary cap?
     
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