Brooks vs Flanagan rugby league eye test

[KingBurton]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1453288262618034176

On the proviso that Flanno leaves it’s a no brainer ‍

 

[bradyk]

Flanagan this year was one of the worst halves I've ever seen, worse than Croft at the Broncos. Just because Brooks is better than Flanagan doesn't mean we need him. I still prefer Averillo and BBO on potential (and even with where Averillo is now) over Brooks who I don't think is good enough to play in front of those 2 or an upgrade. I don't see why we'd throw ~400k at Brooks when we have 2 halves on less that can do at least the same job, but better really (are we not just creating another Flanagan situation?). If we can find a suitor for Flanagan (remember we'd be contributing pretty much all but minimum wage to get him off our books) we need to find someone for 1 year until Rajab is ready (and whoever else we have coming through or at least sign someone promising from another club).

 

[gibbo2]

Averillo isn’t a half back . He played 8 more games than Flanagan this season and only produced more try assists. People need to accept the fact that he can’t be our 7. We need to workout his best position as the boy has talent, however it’s not as a 7 . You are quick to bag Brookes, however on analysis Brookes had double the amount of try assists to Averillo and only played 2 more games. It shows that Averillo is not a creator of opportunities for others. You could argue that Brookes shits all over Averillo as halfback , hey the stats point out that Flanagan is more effective at 7 than Avo.

 

[bullanth]

I agree with 90% of what u say,but for me brooks is not the answer,he’s had 5 or so years with the tigers and done nothing,I’d rather have wakeham there than brooks.

 

[Spoonman84]

Tbaz has to give up on polishing a turd at halfback. Flanagan has been a disaster and shown no improvement and doubling down on Brooks is highly unlikely to work when you take everything into consideration.

It’s a massive roll of the dice which could cripple us in a few ways with cap and roster space if it goes wrong. There’s a lot of bigger chance of us ending up with another dud that we are trying to shift next year than it being successful.

 

[From the area]

Brooks can be a great halfback. I think he needs a change of scenery where the pressure isn’t all on him. The bloke has skill and as mentioned previously he has over 200 NRL games. That’s not bad experience is you ask me. He’s your traditional 7 to direct play and set up things for others. On the back of Burton who will do a lot of the running and taking the line on we just need Brooks to make his tackles, produce nice kicks and direct the forwards. Three simple tasks that nobody on our roster can do (except for BBO, who we are yet to see at 7.)

 

[From the area]

I agree with 90% of what u say,but for me brooks is not the answer,he’s had 5 or so years with the tigers and done nothing,I’d rather have wakeham there than brooks.

Tend to agree yeah. Keep developing our juniors and save on cap space I don’t mind that either. But I think we can all agree we need to move on from the idea of Averillo at 7. Burton will be under too much pressure from Averillos bullshit plays and lack of involvement. Tyrone May 2.0 in the halves. We want to give Burton all the tools to make him the best 6 the club has had since the great Terry Lamb

 

[stingray]

Honestly id give flanagan one more year, why on earth would doggies want brooks

 

[wendog33]

Between Wakeham, BBO (and Avo prefer he be given intensive training at FB or be developed as a super sub 14) we have enough to cover 7. If between them Baz and Gus can't coach vast improvement in those guys, it would be very surprising. Gus would not hesitate in suggesting a specialised halves coach either probably?

Anyway first priority is moving on Flanaghan. A major disappointment who will even be holding back Mounties (as we saw this year). Must go at any cost as he will be stuffing up development of younger halves.

Dummy half is the major concern atm in bringing firward our forwards and changing areas of attack, picking out numbers, sufficient crisp passes thrown in front of the forwards to run onto, so hopefully Cook is ready bc JMK has not done any of that so far. An experienced hooker was a priority for Burtons sake but that didn't happen.

 

[B-Train]

How is paying 600k plus for a player who has underperformed for several seasons a no brainer? More like you'd have no brains if you made that move... Even if we can move on Flanagan, we should stay away from Brooks for anything near that price.

The only way you'd take a chance on Brooks would be if it were for one year on a cut price deal like we got with Dufty and Vaughan. Even then, I'd rather play Averillo or BBO with Burton than Brooks.

 

[D- voice]

Brooks...
Regarded as the next Andrew Johns in his first year.
Halfback of the 2018.
Where did it all go wrong for him, is it the constant loss of quality players around him or the state of the club/team he is in or is it just him ?
In any case we simply can not afford his inflated price unless we swap him with a couple of players and get him at a reduced rate...BUT are we really after him ?
I will let you use your imagination

 

[2144superman]

Brooks can be a great halfback. I think he needs a change of scenery where the pressure isn’t all on him. The bloke has skill and as mentioned previously he has over 200 NRL games. That’s not bad experience is you ask me. He’s your traditional 7 to direct play and set up things for others. On the back of Burton who will do a lot of the running and taking the line on we just need Brooks to make his tackles, produce nice kicks and direct the forwards. Three simple tasks that nobody on our roster can do (except for BBO, who we are yet to see at 7.)

In those 200+ games and 9 seasons of first grade football, how many finals games has he played? LOLLLL. NONE! that’s right. ZERO.

 

[D- voice]

In those 200+ games and 9 seasons of first grade football, how many finals games has he played? LOLLLL. NONE! that’s right. ZERO.

A player always is in charge of his individual ability
A club always is in charge of their finals destiny

 

[B-Train]

A player always is in charge of his individual ability
A club always is in charge of their finals destiny

Regardless of the Tigers lack of wins and success, Brooks hasn't been a standout player and goes missing all of the time when they need him. He can't handle pressure, he's a bad defender. He doesn't take the line on often enough. And he makes horrible decisions which shouldn't be made by a player with his experience. Why would we want to pay 600k plus for such a player?

 

[D- voice]

Regardless of the Tigers lack of wins and success, Brooks hasn't been a standout player and goes missing all of the time when they need him. He can't handle pressure, he's a bad defender. He doesn't take the line on often enough. And he makes horrible decisions which shouldn't be made by a player with his experience. Why would we want to pay 600k plus for such a player?

You will find the Tigpies lack of success has a lot to do with his and vice versa, I don't claim his game is refined but could it become ?
We can't be certain of what the future holds !

 

[B-Train]

You will find the Tigpies lack of success has a lot to do with his and vice versa, I don't claim his game is refined but could it become ?
We can't be certain of what the future holds !

He's turning 27 soon and he's played First Grade for 9 seasons. He is what he is at this point. And judging how bad our attack and halves looked last season, I have no faith that Baz is the coach to help get the best out of someone like Brooks.

 

[alchemist]

Brooks...
Regarded as the next Andrew Johns in his first year.
Halfback of the 2018.
Where did it all go wrong for him, is it the constant loss of quality players around him or the state of the club/team he is in or is it just him ?
In any case we simply can not afford his inflated price unless we swap him with a couple of players and get him at a reduced rate...BUT are we really after him ?
I will let you use your imagination

Wests Tigers is just not the club to get the best out of players... the best moves Tedesco and Moses made was leaving

 

[c-b-b]

He has 2 years left to run on his contract. He's reported to be on between $700-$850k. Where do we get the money to sign him without the tigers chipping in major dollars. Which team takes on Flanagan to make the room. Is Brooks going to be any better with us. All big questions marks and too much risk for mine.

 

[D- voice]

He's turning 27 soon and he's played First Grade for 9 seasons. He is what he is at this point. And judging how bad our attack and halves looked last season, I have no faith that Baz is the coach to help get the best out of someone like Brooks.

TBaz was a five-eight not a halfback, totally different positions when he played.
I'm also unsure about his hafback coaching.

 

[D- voice]

Wests Tigers is just not the club to get the best out of players... the best moves Tedesco and Moses made was leaving

Many people believed and some still believe that Moses isn't good enough halfback and for the exact the same reasons...Does his form this season tell us anything ?