Phalangist
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I cant understand the like for cogger his shit
I don’t think anyone really loves Cogger it’s just we can’t stand Holland lol
I cant understand the like for cogger his shit
Spot on let him be the genuine half he is and play both sides of the ruck ffsLol rip. Pay playing split halves like usual.
You are correct that Pay wants a utility on the bench.He's there because Pay wants a utility and apparently thinks Holland can play hooker lol.
He has good ball handling skills. He knows how to pop an offload away or to be on the receiving end of offloads. I think holland is a handy player.Holland doesn't have the physical attributes of someone like Reimus, but he has some awareness in his play, and on previous occasions when he has come on as dummy half in the second half he has added energy, given the opposition something else to keep an eye on.
That of itself is not good enough reason for him to be on the bench. But there are two reasons that are good reason, and they really point to his role on the squad. He has gone ok coming on off the bench in the past, and did so in the trial as well, and with DWZ and Meaney coming back from injury, you'd really be taking a gamble if you didn't have some sort of option on the bench in case either of them had a problem. This tells us Holland is a backup/utility player in the squad. He is not on big money, he does have a bit of NRL experience now, he fits the bill until someone better shows up.
Who is the ex factor that can crack a game open? Whoever you think it is is well hidden and trust me when you check the stats Holland is far from being the speed hump in the team.Lucky for him that you were never a selector or he may well be back at Singleton.He doesnt look 94-95kgs. He is a speed bump in defence and not an x factor type player that will break a game open.
Im sure hes a good bloke but in all honesty I believe he belongs back at Singleton Greyhounds. Good on him for cracking the NRL.
Don’t think that will ever happen,Katoa in Reggie’s this week.I don't mind katoa on the bench, nor do i mind Holland on the bench, but you can't have both of them on the same bench.. surely everyone agrees with that..
Not “we” just a few.I don’t think anyone really loves Cogger it’s just we can’t stand Holland lol
Pretty sure the DT story was alluding to Holland instead of Katoa, but agree, surely not both. Katoa blew his chance in the Canberra trial with some poor handling and selfish Nu Brown type plays. As for Holland, he's about as good as it gets for a third dummy half in our squad and if JMK can't play 80 and Katoa's not playing, playing Holland makes sense. Not a great option but about the best we've got for that situation. We could play Averillo instead of Holland but not sure who goes to hooker - probably safer to play Holland in Rd1 though with JMK coming back from injury (or even if he doesn't and Katoa plays).I don't mind katoa on the bench, nor do i mind Holland on the bench, but you can't have both of them on the same bench.. surely everyone agrees with that..
i do agree hes a lot better cover for injuries but if there is no injuries to a backline player and your looking for someone to come on at 9 i just dont think holland is well suited to dummy. There is definately a trend of having an outside back on the bench lately though. lets hope he goes well if picked there. to be fair he had a few decent games in 2018 off the benchIs Cogger a better player then Holland? Yes. But Holland is a lot more versatile in the positions he can cover. So it does kind of make sense.
If Holland can even provide average service then I'd be amazed, some of the balls i've seen him throw have been horrendous. Unfortunately it is what we're stuck with...too many makeshift players in key roles that just can't deliver what we really need.
He needs to be 7 and Wakeham at 6... Will let Brendan play without so much pressure and allow him to pick his moments. Fark LewisI can't see cogger doing much from the bench. He's not a gamebreaker... He needs to be running on as a half or not all.
He has actually done ok there in his 20 min cameos, so I'm not too fussed. And I'm sure that when JMK is available we will have him and Katoa rotating, and if we have a backline issue then JMK will revert back there.i do agree hes a lot better cover for injuries but if there is no injuries to a backline player and your looking for someone to come on at 9 i just dont think holland is well suited to dummy. There is definately a trend of having an outside back on the bench lately though. lets hope he goes well if picked there. to be fair he had a few decent games in 2018 off the bench
Id rather have Averillo on the bench. At least hes got more skills and speed. I could handle him working on his defence over Holland any day. Not much weight difference between the both. Just my opinion. Averillo would also cover from 1 to 7 better then Holland would any day of the weekWho is the ex factor that can crack a game open? Whoever you think it is is well hidden and trust me when you check the stats Holland is far from being the speed hump in the team.Lucky for him that you were never a selector or he may well be back at Singleton.