Kids Shows Non-Binary Characters

[Memberberries]

Better to force your kids to hate everyone. That's how we get world peace.

Oh yeah now you're talking sense!

 

[Psycho Doggie]

WTF is a Bison?
I thought it was the final character you fight in Streetfighter. No?

It is the traditional statement made by Buffalo when bidding their male offspring farewell

 

[Flanagun]

Of course it will come up eventually. We live around the Inner West. Half of her High School will probably be referred to as them/they. Haha. But I thought this was massively over the top.

Yeah, I get it, man. And that's your right. I guess my point is kids are going to be exposed to these ideas at some point.... My uncle had his only child when he was pretty old, and I have a cousin who started identifying as non binary at the age of nine or 10. She is home schooled, so she didn't get the idea from school. We think she actually got it from Demi Lovato lol. I think the best and most proactive thing parents can do is just do what you are doing and have regular discussions with their kids about these issues... and if kids have questions at that age, they will come to their parents, anyway. can't really shield kids from these sorts of ideas unless you wanna go build a barn and live Amish style lol.

Edit: they are home schooled/ we think they. I still have problems getting my head around pronouns too lol

 

[Psycho Doggie]

Yeah. Played dungeons and dragons as a kid and apparently I worshipped Satan and was about to become a mass murderer. Go figure.

Same for those playing MTG in its heyday

 

[Hacky McAxe]

Yeah, I get it, man. And that's your right. I guess my point is kids are going to be exposed to these ideas at some point.... My uncle had his only child when he was pretty old, and I have a cousin who started identifying as non binary at the age of nine or 10. She is home schooled, so she didn't get the idea from school. We think she actually got it from Demi Lovato lol. I think the best and most proactive thing parents can do is just do what you are doing and have regular discussions with their kids about these issues... and if kids have questions at that age, they will come to their parents, anyway. can't really shield kids from these sorts of ideas unless you wanna go build a barn and live Amish style lol.

Yep. These sorts of things are about addressing the problem before it becomes a problem. It's the same reason why child care teaches kids about multiculturalism. Its near impossible to reverse bigotry, racism, or any ingrained hate after it starts.

If a kid has decided that they don't like non-binary people, then you have next to no chance of convincing them otherwise. But if a cartoon tells them it's OK before they actually meet a non-binary person, then they're much more likely to be accepting.

 

[Hacky McAxe]

Same for those playing MTG in its heyday

When I played MTG I was Christian. I didn't start sacrificing virgins to the dark lord until after I stopped playing.

 

[Flanagun]

Yep. These sorts of things are about addressing the problem before it becomes a problem. It's the same reason why child care teaches kids about multiculturalism. Its near impossible to reverse bigotry, racism, or any ingrained hate after it starts.

If a kid has decided that they don't like non-binary people, then you have next to no chance of convincing them otherwise. But if a cartoon tells them it's OK before they actually meet a non-binary person, then they're much more likely to be accepting.

Yep, I'm against stuff that sexualises kids, but identity issues are issues they are going to have to deal with a lot as they grow up, so it's best to discourage prejudice and hate.

I'd be more concerned about whether the Bison is encouraging kids to identify as a large North American land mammal, personally lol

 

[Hacky McAxe]

Yep, I'm against stuff that sexualises kids, but identity issues are issues they are going to have to deal with a lot as they grow up, so it's best to discourage prejudice and hate.

I'd be more concerned about whether the Bison is encouraging kids to identify as a large North American land mammal, personally lol

Just imagine when a kid first meets a Bison and realises that they can't speak English

 

[B-Train]

Yeah, I get it, man. And that's your right. I guess my point is kids are going to be exposed to these ideas at some point.... My uncle had his only child when he was pretty old, and I have a cousin who started identifying as non binary at the age of nine or 10. She is home schooled, so she didn't get the idea from school. We think she actually got it from Demi Lovato lol. I think the best and most proactive thing parents can do is just do what you are doing and have regular discussions with their kids about these issues... and if kids have questions at that age, they will come to their parents, anyway. can't really shield kids from these sorts of ideas unless you wanna go build a barn and live Amish style lol.

Edit: they are home schooled/ we think they. I still have problems getting my head around pronouns too lol

Home schooling is a whole other thing. I know of a few kids in that situation and can't believe so many people still do it these days. It makes it hard for kids develop social skills and be exposed to different cultures etc but to each their own. Some kids come out better from it than others.

 

[B-Train]

Yep. These sorts of things are about addressing the problem before it becomes a problem. It's the same reason why child care teaches kids about multiculturalism. Its near impossible to reverse bigotry, racism, or any ingrained hate after it starts.

If a kid has decided that they don't like non-binary people, then you have next to no chance of convincing them otherwise. But if a cartoon tells them it's OK before they actually meet a non-binary person, then they're much more likely to be accepting.

Whenever there is a non binary kid at a school, the whole class and year would discuss it so it's something that the school and the parents will handle as it arises.. 99% of kids are tolerant and accepting of anyone and know about respect.

 

[Doogie]

Yep, I'm against stuff that sexualises kids, but identity issues are issues they are going to have to deal with a lot as they grow up, so it's best to discourage prejudice and hate.

I'd be more concerned about whether the Bison is encouraging kids to identify as a large North American land mammal, personally lol

Funny eh. Was in a meeting this morning and someone discussed some kid health issues and I brought this discussion up. One parent mentioned she couldn't believe how violent the old warner bros cartoons were and that she wouldn't let her kids watch them.

Each to their own.

 

[flamebouyant]

Yesterday morning I got up with my 7 year old daughter and was watching this show called Ridley Jones with her. She's like a girl Indiana Jones that goes on adventures..

A few minutes into the episode, a Bison has their Grandmother come into town that they haven't seen for a while. The whole episode the young Bison is conflicted as instead of being a Granddaughter Bison, they identify as a male name and are non-binary.. But they don't know how to tell the Grandmother..

Then eventually they muster the courage and the Gradmother accepts it etc but they go into pronouns and everything..

What the actual fuck is going on when they're putting this stuff into kids shows aimed at 4-10 year olds? I told her to switch the show off and never watch Ridley Jones again. What's next, an abortion Bluey episode? A gay Peppa Pig episode?

I'm all for inclusivity and my daughter accepts and loves all people for who they are and want to be but kids will learn about this stuff in good time but to have it rammed down their throats in kids shows is insane. At this age it just confuses them and it's a conversation we need to have with them, not have Ridley Jones talk about..

I'd love to hear everyone else's thoughts. Especially fellow parents...

The world has gone fucking insane in regards to this whole shit show!!

 

[Flanagun]

Funny eh. Was in a meeting this morning and someone discussed some kid health issues and I brought this discussion up. One parent mentioned she couldn't believe how violent the old warner bros cartoons were and that she wouldn't let her kids watch them.

Each to their own.

Yeah, some of them were pretty full on. No shit, but I actually remember watching Pepe Le Pew at a kid and thinking this skunk is going too far. Leave her alone, already, dude. This ain't right

 

[Flanagun]

Just imagine when a kid first meets a Bison and realises that they can't speak English

Fucking bisons. Learn the language or go back to your own damned countries!

 

[Doogie]

Yeah, some of them were pretty full on. No shit, but I actually remember watching Pepe Le Pew at a kid and thinking this skunk is going too far. Leave her alone, already, dude. This ain't right

What was worse.

I believe the cat was nonbinary.

 

[Flanagun]

Home schooling is a whole other thing. I know of a few kids in that situation and can't believe so many people still do it these days. It makes it hard for kids develop social skills and be exposed to different cultures etc but to each their own. Some kids come out better from it than others.

They live in America. I think they are more concerned about gun violence. My cousin still takes part in a lot of activities - sport, community theatre, etc... so they are not lacking socialisation. Honestly, if I had kids and lived in the states, I'd want to home school them too.

 

[Bazildog]

But that's all pointless anyway because this discussion is about a non-binary character in a cartoon, which has nothing to do with sexuality.

For me the the its the "non-binary" discussion in a childrens program I have the issue with. But I agree with your sentiment.

 

[Flanagun]

What was worse.

I believe the cat was nonbinary.

Damn, I misgendered them! Better go say 30 hail bisons

 

[B-Train]

They live in America.... I think they are more concerned with gun violence. My cousin still takes part in a lot of activities...sport, community theatre etc... so they are not lacking socialisation. Honestly, if I had kids and lived in the states, I'd want to home school them too.

Yeah the gun situation over there is scary as shit. And a lot of their public schools are fucked in every way and dangerous, underfunded, understaffed, poor grades across the board etc..

 

[B-Train]

For me the the its the "non-binary" discussion in a childrens program I have the issue with. But I agree with your sentiment.

Exactly. Other issues like racism, respect, death, illness, being aware of strangers etc are all fine. But kids that age are too young to know what that is or start thinking about making decisions about whether they are or aren't a certain gender. Or at least be potentially influenced by, "hey, you know what? Maybe I don't want to be a girl anymore either?"..

If they're going to reach that point in their life eventually then they will. And eventually it will come up at home, at school, in public etc. But a kids show that has kids attention having a whole episode about that is bizarre and inappropriate.