News Dogs’ face $1m problem: Every club’s biggest selection headache

[belmore_utd]

Too late. My house is full of little Flanaguns

Well don't lie to them like Shane lied to you

 

[John Matrix]

The pros outweigh the cons, salary cap should be Open book, ready to scrutinise, otherwise get rid of it. The players are almost like public servants, their wages should be disclosed to make a fair competition, that's why the cap is there first place.

While at it, also, transfer fees compensation money, clubs should disclose what's been played when a player manages to switch between clubs mid contract. Not often, but I know it happens, the transfer process is not bad or good, just business.

100% and the only way the roosters can get found out it being made public, the "I do it for the love of the club" is the biggest BS I have heard in the NRL.

TPAs need to be made public also.

 

[bulldogsmyte]

Averillo seemed more comfortable v Sharks trial but surely we can't persist with him for now in coming games we should atleast be competitive and have direction with sets. Let him keep developing as 7 but in training and reserves, find his voice and game awareness.
Flanagan and Wakeham aren't any worse, Flanagan is actually a presence on the field. These boys need some confidence with plenty of losses even Burton will become the same.
Flanagan has qualities you'd want in a halfback he just needs to relax and put less pressure on himself, not think about the overall game just focus on little goals like repeat sets, coach's tactics on sets, field positioning from forwards runs for the kick , etc. Just keep it simple, even boring repeat sets, then backs or Burton will find a break or Dufty work off a Max King offload when he pops on.

Your last sentence contradicted your support for Flanno.
If Flanno can't think about the overall game then he does NOT have the qualities for a HB.
The most fundamental quality of a HB is to think about the overall game and lead the side on the field. That means kicking and passing with PURPOSE and knowing the next step in attack based on where his and the opposition players are on the field. If he can't think like that then he's just a factory worker processing mindlessly during the game which results in our team having meaningless, unproductive sets, holding the ball for the sake of it and doing a shite kick on the last.

 

[Flanagun]

Well don't lie to them like Shane lied to you

Kyle, Millie, Adam and Elliott are all very good young footy players, thank you very much!

 

[TwinTurbo]

TPAs need to be made public also.

So you think JAC's deal with his "Let's Trot" gear has to be made public?


Always a Bulldog

 

[Hound Dog]

Your last sentence contradicted your support for Flanno.
If Flanno can't think about the overall game then he does NOT have the qualities for a HB.
The most fundamental quality of a HB is to think about the overall game and lead the side on the field. That means kicking and passing with PURPOSE and knowing the next step in attack based on where his and the opposition players are on the field. If he can't think like that then he's just a factory worker processing mindlessly during the game which results in our team having meaningless, unproductive sets, holding the ball for the sake of it and doing a shite kick on the last.

Honestly if we can do the 'factory worker' stuff right, less penalties, less errors, even have dummy half scoots to the 50m, get the opposition defence on the backfoot, good chance our opposition will be frustrated or tired and one of our weapons will pounce on a loose ball or offload to score, make a break, assist, gain territory.

A well oiled unit sticking to a boring plan will bring results. It's all about how professional this bunch want to be.

If our hooker and halfback can manage a game with the forwards working (properly), we wont complain much we'd just say we want more tries, but it'll get us results, we all know this already. It's going to take a lot of training, quicker thinking and playing, leadership, discipline, captain leading by example (less silly errors), smart risk free defence. As it opens up they'll be a chance to play off the cuff footy. That can wait though, for now , during games. I'd love it for teams to dread playing against the Dogs like the way it used to be. New level of professionalism but it's still footy.

 

[bulldogsmyte]

Honestly if we can do the 'factory worker' stuff right, less penalties, less errors, even have dummy half scoots to the 50m, get the opposition defence on the backfoot, good chance our opposition will be frustrated or tired and one of our weapons will pounce on a loose ball or offload to score, make a break, assist, gain territory.

A well oiled unit sticking to a boring plan will bring results. It's all about how professional this bunch want to be.

If our hooker and halfback can manage a game with the forwards working (properly), we wont complain much we'd just say we want more tries, but it'll get us results, we all know this already. It's going to take a lot of training, quicker thinking and playing, leadership, discipline, captain leading by example (less silly errors), smart risk free defence. As it opens up they'll be a chance to play off the cuff footy. That can wait though, for now , during games. I'd love it for teams to dread playing against the Dogs like the way it used to be. New level of professionalism but it's still footy.

>"A well oiled unit sticking to a boring plan will bring results"
The dogs plan last year was to "complete our sets". The dogs had the highest completion rate in the comp and yet finished last because they did nothing with the ball. They held it for 5 tackles and generic bomb on the last and then rinse and repeat mindlessly for 80 minutes to lose the game at the end. The reality is all of our "7" are shite with Flanno the highest paid of them and often the worst. He can't run, he rarely throws the money ball to put a player into a hole (maybe twice a year) and his kicks are shite as well.

 

[Downtowndog]

Barrett is not the hard nosed experienced coach we need at this point in our rebuild. Maybe Gus can re-set Baz' agenda and assist him to "see the light" with selections, tactics, basics and game plan and Gus might give the team some confidence to lift.

Our fortunes, nor Baz's, are not going to miraculously change unless there is some sort of intervention. Otherwise its more of the same excuses and directionless outcomes as 2021, and another long season ahead in 2022.

Pay was a hard nosed coach and the majority of the kennel couldn't stand him...

Barrett is good looking but is a major softcock and now it's starting to piss the kennel off...

Overall the "kennel" couldn't stand Moore, Hasler, Pay and now Barrett, so which coach is going to make the majority of the prima donnas happy on the kennel?

 

[Hound Dog]

>"A well oiled unit sticking to a boring plan will bring results"
The dogs plan last year was to "complete our sets". The dogs had the highest completion rate in the comp and yet finished last because they did nothing with the ball. They held it for 5 tackles and generic bomb on the last and then rinse and repeat mindlessly for 80 minutes to lose the game at the end. The reality is all of our "7" are shite with Flanno the highest paid of them and often the worst. He can't run, he rarely throws the money ball to put a player into a hole (maybe twice a year) and his kicks are shite as well.

The completed sets didn't show the whole story.
Re-watch the games and check the stats. Lack of repeat sets or dangerous kicks and territory gain or long range kicks, Errors and penalties, especially errors and penalties in crucial moments, positioning, direction, misreads, techniques, all things that if improved on would've brought results. A lot of times we were in the games but managed to lose them through our own errs, individual brilliance will add more positives to our games, we have now potential for individual brilliance, but the team needs to work as team first and foremost. Takes time and stability. Once we're there we'd be competitive. Any coach will be aiming for this, we need to be stable as a club and fanbase, getting there...trust me I'm as frustrated as the next but we have to get it together, trust the new management.

 

[kmr07]

What i dont understand is that we clearly have a problem within the halves and we have a coach who played in the halves heck he even won a Dally M in that position in 2000.

What is the issue, are the players not listening to him? has the game changed so much his experience don't mean much? Is it a confidence issue?
There's definitely something there that we are all missing.

You can’t just teach halves play. Some of it has to be instinct which unfortunately our halfback options do not have

 

[Disposable Hero]

The completed sets didn't show the whole story.
Re-watch the games and check the stats. Lack of repeat sets or dangerous kicks and territory gain or long range kicks, Errors and penalties, especially errors and penalties in crucial moments, positioning, direction, misreads, techniques, all things that if improved on would've brought results. A lot of times we were in the games but managed to lose them through our own errs, individual brilliance will add more positives to our games, we have now potential for individual brilliance, but the team needs to work as team first and foremost. Takes time and stability. Once we're there we'd be competitive. Any coach will be aiming for this, we need to be stable as a club and fanbase, getting there...trust me I'm as frustrated as the next but we have to get it together, trust the new management.

The frustration you talk of frustration does not compare to the frustration of The dogs competing well in a set. The kick on the last is decent and smelliott the dumbarse tackles the FB in the air...
I look forward to the frustration knowing there is light at the end of the tunnel after the hard work is done.

 

[kmr07]

I made this exact point about BBO earlier, he needs to be protected and people on here need accept that and stop demanding he gets thrown in to satisfy their need for change. It's like they learnt nothing from watching us the last couple of years.

Jake is a victim of circumstance, terrible roster management and poor decisions lead to him being rushed through the grades without proper development and thrown into a role he had basically no experience in. All these decisions have unfortunately meant Jake has become a bit of a sacrificial lamb for us. If the Dogs lose Jake gets blamed, if Burton doesn't perform Jake also gets blamed, if we don't score enough points Jake again gets blamed. He's going to get blamed for everything and he's just going to have to cop it because there's simply no one else that we can throw in at this stage. This could cost him his career if he doesn't overcome yet people on here are happy enough to do the exact same thing to another poor kid.

Geez Jake is a protected species. Granted he was thrown into the deep end but we can’t continue using that excuse for the basics he cannot get right. He only has himself to blame when he is making schoolboy errors like not catching the ball off a kick off or arm grabbing in defence

 

[CrittaMagic69]

Geez Jake is a protected species. Granted he was thrown into the deep end but we can’t continue using that excuse for the basics he cannot get right. He only has himself to blame when he is making schoolboy errors like not catching the ball off a kick off or arm grabbing in defence

He's the furthest thing away from a protected species.

 

[B-Train]

Pay was a hard nosed coach and the majority of the kennel couldn't stand him...

Barrett is good looking but is a major softcock and now it's starting to piss the kennel off...

Overall the "kennel" couldn't stand Moore, Hasler, Pay and now Barrett, so which coach is going to make the majority of the prima donnas happy on the kennel?

Maybe when we have a coach that wins us a premiership or at least has us on a trajectory towards competing for one? Or at least make the finals for the first time in six seasons in a league where half the teams make the finals?

Hasler ran the club into the ground the last three seasons. Pay wasn't a FG coach and had us bottom 5 every season. Barrett hasn't proven he's up to the task yet either. Should fans never complain when coaches don't get results and the performances get worse and worse?

I agree there aren't many great viable coaching options out there though and whoever else we get will be a gamble.

 

[Big Vibe]

BBO looks to have the most upside to me. I think Averillo did just enough in the latest trial to retain the #7 jumper for R1, but would love to see BBO promoted if things don’t work out.

Averillo would make a great bench utility for the time being with the ability to cover any position from 1-7.

6. Burton
7. BBO

17. Averillo

 

[ricko_29]

Kyle Flanagan can take care of the kicking huh!? Has this fucking writer seen him play before!?

 

[Mitch Connor]

They’re making Flanno run out for Mounties in round 1. **** won’t even make the actual Cup side.

 

[wendog33]

Pay was a hard nosed coach and the majority of the kennel couldn't stand him...

Barrett is good looking but is a major softcock and now it's starting to piss the kennel off...

Overall the "kennel" couldn't stand Moore, Hasler, Pay and now Barrett, so which coach is going to make the majority of the prima donnas happy on the kennel?

Hard nosed (and competent) then

 

[wendog33]

Maybe when we have a coach that wins us a premiership or at least has us on a trajectory towards competing for one? Or at least make the finals for the first time in six seasons in a league where half the teams make the finals?

Hasler ran the club into the ground the last three seasons. Pay wasn't a FG coach and had us bottom 5 every season. Barrett hasn't proven he's up to the task yet either. Should fans never complain when coaches don't get results and the performances get worse and worse?

I agree there aren't many great viable coaching options out there though and whoever else we get will be a gamble.

Some fans just seem to be happy with the status quo I guess? Most aren't.

 

[Bulldogsteve]

Some fans just seem to be happy with the status quo I guess? Most aren't.

we havnt even started the season, thats how stupid and uneducated they are. They are trial games and trial game are for a reason FMD