Religious Discussion Thread

[Hacky McAxe]

I obviously lean towards the right lol and I know my modern history more then most so a debate about who started what could last a very long time and go around in circles lol lets agree to disagree.

It's definitely a vague area, because you have to quantify what's left wing and what's right wing, and we all know that's something that is near impossible to accurately quantify, and there's a metric tonne of nuance involved. As long as you don't say that Hitler was left wing then it's all good.

 

[ouwet]

It's definitely a vague area, because you have to quantify what's left wing and what's right wing, and we all know that's something that is near impossible to accurately quantify, and there's a metric tonne of nuance involved. As long as you don't say that Hitler was left wing then it's all good.

Hitler is as left wing as Stalin is right.

 

[Hacky McAxe]

Hitler is as left wing as Stalin is right.

I completely agree.

As I said earlier. There's no good wing. Left wing and right wing supporters have caused roughly equal damage.

 

[The DoggFather]

I completely agree.

As I said earlier. There's no good wing. Left wing and right wing supporters have caused roughly equal damage.

That's why I don't buy this wing bullshit.

Bread and circuses, divide and conquer and all that.

 

[MatstaDogg]

That's why I don't buy this wing bullshit.

Bread and circuses, divide and conquer and all that.

Crush your enemies,
See them driven before you,
And hear the lamentations of their women.

 

[Kelpie03]

You might want to reread the first sentence, bit of a juxtaposition .

I completely agree.

As I said earlier. There's no good wing. Left wing and right wing supporters have caused roughly equal damage.

Your right about the fact that the right wing extremists are just bad as left wing extremists.
The only extremism which is good is Christian extremists and by that I mean real Christian extremists as taught by Jesus, but unfortunately some who call themselves Christians are not good people.
Mind you some who do not call themselves Christians are also not good people.

 

[south of heaven]

Crush your enemies,
See them driven before you,
And hear the lamentations of their women.

There all sluts....

 

[MatstaDogg]

There all sluts....

Just how I like em

 

[KambahOne]

Again dude get it through your head... EVERY SINGLE organisation with the history of the Catholic Church and the numbers of the Catholic Church have members that bring shame to them!

Who questioned your morals or ethics? I'm questioning you painting everyone under the same umbrella!
I'm questioning you and the your like who mock the average parishioner... Massive difference, I've never and will never protect or defend any individual guilty of any crime whether they are Catholic, Orthodox, Islam, Hindu, Socialist's, Communists, Marxists/BLM members, Atheists or anyone else.

Again you miss my point entirely and I'll assume it's by accident and not deliberately like wahesh.

Since its inception the culture of the hierarchy of the catholic church has always been to protect the church above all else. Regardless of the laws broken, regardless of the crimes, regardless of the victims, regardless of the pain and suffering it has brought down upon people for centuries, the church has always and continues to this day to protect itself, its power, its influence, its reputation and most importantly its obscene wealth. It has proven again and again and again and again that it is not an institution that can be trusted to self govern or do the right thing. It is deceitful, self-serving, hypocritical, greedy and archaic.

I'm not talking about the individuals that worship this church, I'm talking about the church itself, its lack of morals and ethics, its obsession with money, its discrimination, its bigotry and its lies that persist even today.

If my continued condemnation of the church upsets you, you have two choices, ignore me or get the church to change. Best of luck.

 

[Wahesh]

@KambahOne this is what I'll say... no organisation (including the Church) is free of sin. The current Pope has raised eyebrows on more than one occasion during his reign, and he continues to push the boundaries of right of wrong. He has not in anyway won me over, and I don't think he ever will, as mud sticks.

The Bishop in my own religion has a bad reputation with me and many people I know as he has made decisions that have literally ruined lives, such as moving Priests out to country towns where they don't want to be (away from their families etc...) so they have actually quite the Church simply because this leader has his own personal agenda.

So I agree that there are those out there who are doing no good, however the 1% of those wrong-doers do not represent me or the majority who are Christians for the correct reasons. Painting everyone with the same brush says more about the accuser than those they are accusing.

 

[KambahOne]

I've done a bit of reading about Santanic rituals whose members are the elite and known pedophiles who are protected!

Sad really...

I agree 100% with the above anyone who knew/facilitated moving priests or turning a blind eye should be held accountable also, not once have I defended anyone in any organisation who does shit like that. It's not just the church this happens in governments, in businesses, In the Islamic world openly, in Free Masonary groups etc...

I'm defending the parishioners who are constantly getting mocked!

lol, is that the secret chapter of the bible the vatican used when it protected all its paedophile priests?

 

[The DoggFather]

lol, is that the secret chapter of the bible the vatican used when it protected all its paedophile priests?

The way I'd protect the church is by exposing the pedos and making examples of the demon fucks.

 

[KambahOne]

@KambahOne this is what I'll say... no organisation (including the Church) is free of sin. The current Pope has raised eyebrows on more than one occasion during his reign, and he continues to push the boundaries of right of wrong. He has not in anyway won me over, and I don't think he ever will, as mud sticks.

The Bishop in my own religion has a bad reputation with me and many people I know as he has made decisions that have literally ruined lives, such as moving Priests out to country towns where they don't want to be (away from their families etc...) so they have actually quite the Church simply because this leader has his own personal agenda.

So I agree that there are those out there who are doing no good, however the 1% of those wrong-doers do not represent me or the majority who are Christians for the correct reasons. Painting everyone with the same brush says more about the accuser than those they are accusing.

When you can understand that is exactly what I am not doing, maybe we can have a discussion about this, until then all the best.

 

[Wahesh]

When you can understand that is exactly what I am not doing, maybe we can have a discussion about this, until then all the best.

You're not painting everyone with the same brush, yet you blast Christians with any chance you get? Whatever.

 

[The DoggFather]

@KambahOne this is what I'll say... no organisation (including the Church) is free of sin. The current Pope has raised eyebrows on more than one occasion during his reign, and he continues to push the boundaries of right of wrong. He has not in anyway won me over, and I don't think he ever will, as mud sticks.

The Bishop in my own religion has a bad reputation with me and many people I know as he has made decisions that have literally ruined lives, such as moving Priests out to country towns where they don't want to be (away from their families etc...) so they have actually quite the Church simply because this leader has his own personal agenda.

So I agree that there are those out there who are doing no good, however the 1% of those wrong-doers do not represent me or the majority who are Christians for the correct reasons. Painting everyone with the same brush says more about the accuser than those they are accusing.

You know I'm Orthodox, I don't hate the Catholic church or Catholics, I hate the pedo ***** and the ***** that protect them.

Just like any other organisation, I don't hate the cops but I hate the corrupt ***** that are cops.

Some people have the fucked up thinking that claim they are pedos because they are Catholic, fuck no. They are pedos because they are evil demon motherfuckers parading like they are Catholics.

Best way to describe it biblically when Jesus mentions the synagogue of Satan. The synagogue it's self may not be evil but there are demons parading like they are from the synagogue working for Satan.

Get me? Sorry I can't explain better.

 

[KambahOne]

You're not painting everyone with the same brush, yet you blast Christians with any chance you get? Whatever.

I blast their institutions and that is the difference you continually fail to see.

 

[Wahesh]

You know I'm Orthodox, I don't hate the Catholic church or Catholics, I hate the pedo ***** and the ***** that protect them.

Just like any other organisation, I don't hate the cops but I hate the corrupt ***** that are cops.

Some people have the fucked up thinking that claim they are pedos because they are Catholic, fuck no. They are pedos because they are evil demon motherfuckers parading like they are Catholics.

Best way to describe it biblically when Jesus mentions the synagogue of Satan. The synagogue it's self may not be evil but there are demons parading like they are from the synagogue working for Satan.

Get me? Sorry I can't explain better.

Of course I get you brother, and I completely agree with you. I'm trying to get the same message across to Kambah.

 

[The DoggFather]

Of course I get you brother, and I completely agree with you. I'm trying to get the same message across to Kambah.

I Get Kambah my bro, maybe wording could be different but I understand his main point.

No disrespect to you or @KambahOne

 

[The DoggFather]

Of course I get you brother, and I completely agree with you. I'm trying to get the same message across to Kambah.

Trust me if it were the Orthodox church members doing this evil shit I'd be the first to condemn them and distance myself from them.

But the cold hard truth is I don't really have time for ANY church/religion. I focus on my faith and my faith alone.

 

[LFC Bulldogs]

What’s the big fuss?
Religions are run as businesses, they have to be run as a business to survive in these times.
The heads of every church and religious organisations are educated scholars and quite business savvy, most are anyway.
They are no different to your everyday businessman and large corporation looking to pay minimal tax , and use any legal loophole available to them to make more money.
Its not their fault the government has given them tax free privileges .
I’m not sure if whatthis new pompous Greek Archbishop has done is illegal, it may very well be.
when it comes to churches and religious organisations when big bucks are made it’s their moral shortcomings that are questioned.
The Greek Orthodox Church is a billion dollar business, just like other denominations.