DoggyStyla
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I’m glad he realizes his time is all but up. So long, farewell, don’t let the door hit your ass as you’re leaving Pay!
Well we will have missed the first half of the season so with your theory we should be in the finals this year.If the club extends him for 1 year fair enough but if they extend him for 2 that's a big strike against the board as far as I'm concerned. For what possible reason would we need to make it 2 years. There's no chance in the world any other club is thinking of poaching Pay on his record so far.
Had to roll my eyes when Pay started talking about continuity lol... He made so many unnecessary changes over the years most surrounding R.Smith.
12th placed is overachieving? Some people really will spin anything to blindly support Pay. Here's some perspective for you...We were nominated by the “experts” to win the spoon in 2018 based on our playing squad. But we exceeded their expectations and finished equal 12th on games won.
In 2019 we were again nominated by the “experts” to win the spoon based on our playing squad. But we exceeded their expectations and finished equal 11th on games won.
I don’t believe that we can ignore the above, some credit therefore must be allocated to the coaching staff for us overachieving.
Of course we demand more, but 2018/19/20 are different seasons than we have faced in our past. Previously we have been able to add players to fill obvious deficiencies, but this time around we haven’t been able to do that. Fortunately this stops this year and next year the Salary Cap handcuffs are off. Signing Thompson is a good start, looking forward to what’s next.
Go Dogs
It does if you divide where we finished at the end of the regular season as a percentage of total teams in the competition.I'm a little out of date, which other coaches had to play two to three million under the salary cap? Which other coaches went into the season with a squad expected to come bottom four (and even worse)? That graph doesn't really mean anything. Pay up until now has met the realistic expectations that were set for our team before a ball was kicked.
2018, 2019 not disruptive seasons. We started winning games after our seasons were all but finished. We need to win games at the start of a season to be anywhere near a top 8 side.Disruptive season hard to gauge got the gun pommy comming in 21 hopefully a few good signings in the pipeline I’d give him 21 then decide but we do need a good attack coach defensively I’m happy
Didn't we just sign a high profile player by the name of Thompson? Im sick of seeing Flanagans name tossed up personally.It does matter who coaches us now. For fuk sake sign Flanagan for 2 years ...we need a high profile coach with the ability to attract quality players. Players like Fifita would never consider our club if they could sign with another team with a more high profile coach.
Interesting. I guess we can thank the shithole that Dib, castle and hasler left us in for this.View attachment 14517
Note that throughout the past 50 years, the following coaches were replaced after not making the finals series: Hagan, Clift, Ryan, Gould, Folkes, Moore & Hasler.
The following coaches were only given an extra year after not making the finals series: Glossip & Anderson.
Yet Pay remains the only coach in the last 50 years retained after not making the finals series for 2 consecutive years.
Yes it was, but coaching had nothing to do with it.Very disappointing performance against the cowboys. Can't see him being extended unless they improve a lot.
Shane Flanagan will be the Dragons head coach soon regardless of how Paul McGregor pulls them out of a none from two start to the season, the writing was on the wall for Mary the moment Flanagan was signed as an assistant, then you have their best player Tyson Frizell signing with Newcastle and openly declaring the switch is not money related but because “he wants to win a premiership before he retires”! If your best player defects to another club for the same money he’s already on at his current club, that to me speaks loud and clear that he has zero faith in Mary’s coaching and ability to win a premiership under his tutelage. Lastly, for the final nail in Mary’s coffin, Shane Flanagan was an ex Dragons player so he already understands the culture at the club... need I say more?the season being suspended is a blessing, means Shane Flanagan will be available without the pain of watching us score 6-12 points a game for the rest of the year
Yeaaaaaaaah...we finished 12th 2019 !!!12th placed is overachieving? Some people really will spin anything to blindly support Pay. Here's some perspective for you...
2018 we were 8-16. We finished a whopping 14 competition points behind the 8th placed Warriors and finished with the same competition points as 13th and 14th placed Nth Qld and the Titans.
2019 we finished 10-14. We were 3 points from 8th placed Brisbane who only had 25 competition points compared to the Warriors the year before who had 32 in 8th place. Brisbane also lost their final by 50 plus points. We also were only four points above 15th and were last or second last for two thirds of the season.
Last season we had the 2nd worst for and against with -155 (generally a good indication of the performance of a team over a season) and averaged a measly 13.6 points a game in attack which was worst in the comp by a mile, 4 points per game less than the season before in year two under the same coach.
2020 we had the same issues as the first two seasons and continued to look a mess in attack. Yet considering all of the above, you still maintain that we've "overachieved" with Pay at the helm?
I'd agree it's highly likely Flanagan is being groomed for Kogarah and Mary must be able to see the writing on the wall.Shane Flanagan will be the Dragons head coach soon regardless of how Paul McGregor pulls them out of a none from two start to the season, the writing was on the wall for Mary the moment Flanagan was signed as an assistant, then you have their best player Tyson Frizell signing with Newcastle and openly declaring the switch is not money related but because “he wants to win a premiership before he retires”! If your best player defects to another club for the same money he’s already on at his current club, that to me speaks loud and clear that he has zero faith in Mary’s coaching and ability to win a premiership under his tutelage. Lastly, for the final nail in Mary’s coffin, Shane Flanagan was an ex Dragons player so he already understands the culture at the club... need I say more?