Jesse Ramien Consolidated Rumour Thread

[Juicydog]

Lol how’s your comment about him going back to sharks good news

Im obviously taking the piss

 

[steeliz]

I have some very good news about Jesse Ramien fellas

Newcastle are releasing him?

 

[Juicydog]

Newcastle are releasing him?

I think so...

 

[Teddybear]

I think so...

"Dog on the gear" please note Our forward pack is weak as piss.
I never thought I would say this about a dogs side but I have...
We have the worst forward pack in the history of the club.
We need to phuck the lot of them off and buy some BIG Bastards..( big Bastards with a ticker) put the fear of god to the opposition ..instead of buying "sexy forwards" like Stimson and CHN.

 

[Horse]

Those signings are all fine. It's the re-signing of Pay and Lichaa and the three year deals to Meaney, Cogger, Crichton and worst of all Napa which give people doubt...

Not to mention not being able to seal a deal with other targets throughout the year who they were negotiating with... So it's well and truly been a mixed bag from the club so far.

Cogger, Meaney, Crichton are all 21 years old (3 years younger than To'omaga who everyone is crying for patience with), and were signed with a view to the future. Personally I believe all 3 will develop nicely, particularly Cogger who I've got big wraps on. They're all far from finished products.

Napa I agree with you was a poor, panic based signing. I criticised it from Ball 1. I'm pretty well informed that Warren McDonnell was the driving force behind this signing (don't underestimate the overall power that Recruitment Managers have within clubs), and it is worth noting that he's just been told his services are no longer required. Read into that what you will.

Regarding your final point - I'm still waiting to hear who these apparent bungled signings in the past 18 months are? I've questioned multiple members who've spun this narrative about the specifics and I'm yet to hear of a single example.

 

[Teddybear]

Cogger, Meaney, Crichton are all 21 years old (3 years younger than To'omaga who everyone is crying for patience with), and were signed with a view to the future. Personally I believe all 3 will develop nicely, particularly Cogger who I've got big wraps on. They're all far from finished products.

Napa I agree with you was a poor, panic based signing. I criticised it from Ball 1. I'm pretty well informed that Warren McDonnell was the driving force behind this signing (don't underestimate the overall power that Recruitment Managers have within clubs), and it is worth noting that he's just been told his services are no longer required. Read into that what you will.

Regarding your final point - I'm still waiting to hear who these apparent bungled signings in the past 18 months are? I've questioned multiple members who've spun this narrative about the specifics and I'm yet to hear of a single example.

Mr Ed,

How has Mark Hughes been fairing in the recruitment game, has he landed a scalp yet? Cupboards bare

 

[Dingo]

Get him ASAP

 

[B-Train]

Cogger, Meaney, Crichton are all 21 years old (3 years younger than To'omaga who everyone is crying for patience with), and were signed with a view to the future. Personally I believe all 3 will develop nicely, particularly Cogger who I've got big wraps on. They're all far from finished products.

Napa I agree with you was a poor, panic based signing. I criticised it from Ball 1. I'm pretty well informed that Warren McDonnell was the driving force behind this signing (don't underestimate the overall power that Recruitment Managers have within clubs), and it is worth noting that he's just been told his services are no longer required. Read into that what you will.

Regarding your final point - I'm still waiting to hear who these apparent bungled signings in the past 18 months are? I've questioned multiple members who've spun this narrative about the specifics and I'm yet to hear of a single example.

I don't think of any those three would make FG at another club and ideally none of them will be playing FG for us next year if we're going to be competitive.

The club has been negotiating with or making enquiries to plenty of other players throughout the year. Just no signings have come to fruition yet for various reasons. You're too smart to believe that we've only had two targets all season with DWZ and Stimson and nailed them both but haven't looked at or talked to anyone else?

 

[Bulldogs09]

Cogger, Meaney, Crichton are all 21 years old (3 years younger than To'omaga who everyone is crying for patience with), and were signed with a view to the future. Personally I believe all 3 will develop nicely, particularly Cogger who I've got big wraps on. They're all far from finished products.

Napa I agree with you was a poor, panic based signing. I criticised it from Ball 1. I'm pretty well informed that Warren McDonnell was the driving force behind this signing (don't underestimate the overall power that Recruitment Managers have within clubs), and it is worth noting that he's just been told his services are no longer required. Read into that what you will.

Regarding your final point - I'm still waiting to hear who these apparent bungled signings in the past 18 months are? I've questioned multiple members who've spun this narrative about the specifics and I'm yet to hear of a single example.

Let’s be serious. The age thing is wonderful excuse but there is a lot of kids killing it. Not one of these are. not one of these have been good. All meh at best. Hell one is not even in first grade.

Call it what you want but they aren’t good signings.

Potential players that haven’t kicked on thus far and don’t look like they will (Crichton in reserves, Meaney already moved, cogger not done much)

 

[LordSidious66]

So have we got this guy or is going back to the sharks?

 

[Papa Joe]

Melbourne is a very long distance from the Central Coast though....

True that,.......... but is it too far to play with the games best & perhaps take home a premiership win in the next 2 seasons?

 

[Horse]

Let’s be serious. The age thing is wonderful excuse but there is a lot of kids killing it. Not one of these are. not one of these have been good. All meh at best. Hell one is not even in first grade.

Call it what you want but they aren’t good signings.

Potential players that haven’t kicked on thus far and don’t look like they will (Crichton in reserves, Meaney already moved, cogger not done much)

There's a few kids killing it elsewhere for sure but the majority have the luxury of being in a team with plenty of class and experience surrounding them. Our youngsters don't have that luxury.

Ultimately in these cases, time will prove whether or not they're good signings. I used To'omaga as an example, who's several years older than these boys, and people here are calling for time and patience. Why are you already making a call on a bunch of 21 year olds, 6 months into a 3 year contract? Anyway - no point arguing over it now. We'll see where they're at in a couple of years time.

 

[AlzzBulldog]

People need to understand that we ain’t gonna get anyone with the Andersons in charge and pay at the helm, happy to be proven wrong

 

[Horse]

People need to understand that we ain’t gonna get anyone with the Andersons in charge and pay at the helm

They've reeled in bigger fish than Ramien. I'll give you a hint - one of them was barely a month ago, and you've got him mounted in your avatar.

 

[Spoonman84]

True that,.......... but is it too far to play with the games best & perhaps take home a premiership win in the next 2 seasons?

He was prepared to move to Newcastle from the Sharks so it looks like staying close is high on the priority list.

 

[Spoonman84]

The club has been negotiating with or making enquiries to plenty of other players throughout the year. Just no signings have come to fruition yet for various reasons. You're too smart to believe that we've only had two targets all season with DWZ and Stimson and nailed them both but haven't looked at or talked to anyone else?

The club wouldn’t be doing their job is they weren’t speaking to a wide range of players and agents. Just because we have been linked to a player doesn’t mean there’s been legimate interest from the club. We may have only nailed two targets but on the same token it’s only August and there’s only been a few players change clubs so far for next season. The roster is far from finalised and no club gets a every player they negotiate with.

 

[Bulldogs09]

There's a few kids killing it elsewhere for sure but the majority have the luxury of being in a team with plenty of class and experience surrounding them. Our youngsters don't have that luxury.

Ultimately in these cases, time will prove whether or not they're good signings. I used To'omaga as an example, who's several years older than these boys, and people here are calling for time and patience. Why are you already making a call on a bunch of 21 year olds, 6 months into a 3 year contract? Anyway - no point arguing over it now. We'll see where they're at in a couple of years time.

I’m not saying to’omaga is going to be anything amazing either.

Though more vital Meaney is woeful at wing. He’s been signed at fullback and failed to grab it. Cogger is a 7 and this isn’t his first year in first grade he had games at knights. Never there did he scream out of someone to make nrl first grade his calling.

A prop/forward like to’omaga might kick on, he might cement himself as a solid bench forward.

Cogger and Meaney won’t kick on to star fullbacks or halves. Blind Freddy can see that.

Fuck even our flop of a coach can. He’s moved Meaney, signed dwz (who isn’t a fullback at his prior club) and rightfully played him there.

Cogger wouldn’t of been there if Lewis kicked on (also has shown far more then cogger in his short time in first grade mainly last year) and Foran who can’t stay on the field for half a season.

 

[Moedogg]

Like Remi Smith he will develop cobwebs in his hands whilst watching Tolman touch the ball 3/5 times in a set.

 

[Spoonman84]

Jesse Ramien’s ill-fated stint at Newcastle has not deterred rival teams with a host of Sydney clubs already queuing up to sign the strike centre.

Ramien’s former club Cronulla are keen to lure the 22-year-old back to the Sharks while Canterbury, Wests Tigers and North Queensland have already signalled their interest.

However, the Sharks and Tigers are in a salary cap hole and would need to shed players in order to sign Ramien — but would both be willing to do so to land him.

The Daily Telegraph broke the story on Thursday that Ramien’s stint at Newcastle had come to a dramatic end despite having a year remaining on his contract.

Ramien has the option of playing out the season in the Super League but that is unlikely given he is on full pay at the Knights.

Coach Nathan Brown put an end to months of speculation over his once-prized recruit when he confronted Ramien after training on Wednesday and told him he was free to leave the club immediately.

Ramien accepted the offer and was officially granted permission to negotiate with other clubs. Newcastle players had the day off yesterday but Ramien is not expected at training today.

Knights officials had grown agitated with speculation about Ramien’s future, including suggestions family members had been calling rival clubs on his behalf for 2020.

Brown would not comment when contacted but will front a press conference Friday.

The angst between Ramien and the club had been building for months. While the decision was not personal and there are no suggestions of any off-field wrongdoing by Ramien, quite simply the off-season move wasn’t working.

The tensions began when Ramien was struggling to get into the game as the Knights’ attack failed to ignite at the start of the year. But in recent weeks the Knights have privately questioned Ramien’s desire, including a shocking performance when the Sydney Roosters thumped them 48-10.

It is a dramatic fall from grace for Ramien, who was on the Origin radar 12 months ago after starring for Cronulla.

There was also conjecture about his contract — said to be about $600,000 for two seasons. He could earn about $450,000 on the open market.

Ramien was among four players including Danny Levi, Herman Ese’ese and Jamie Buhrer who Brown axed this week in a bid to save the Knights’ season.

Levi and Ese’ese have also been given permission to negotiate with rival clubs. The pair have spoken with the Bulldogs while Buhrer has been told he is free to move on next year.

After being entrenched in the top eight since round 10, the Knights have slumped to ninth on the competition ladder on the back of a four-match losing streak.

It doesn’t get any easier when they play Manly at Lottoland on Saturday.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...n/news-story/565bfba01a018670300ff0668355e02a

 

[B-Train]

The club wouldn’t be doing their job is they weren’t speaking to a wide range of players and agents. Just because we have been linked to a player doesn’t mean there’s been legimate interest from the club. We may have only nailed two targets but on the same token it’s only August and there’s only been a few players change clubs so far for next season. The roster is far from finalised and no club gets a every player they negotiate with.

Of course. And if they sign Api, Ramien and Ese Ese as I said earlier then that would have been a productive recruitment drive on limited resources.

But until that time, until they prove themselves further, it's understandable to feel indifferent and dubious about who will be recruited next. Half the signings have been good and half bad thus far and them making enquiries about Levi is enough to make every fan sceptical.