Ben Barba sacked by Cowboys and facing deregistration - Consolidated Thread

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So what’s your defence of Lodge? He did nothing wrong?
I didn't say I was defending of Lodge.

I said I would defend him as a Broncos player.

When he leaves, I will attack him.

People were defending Barba here last time. Not defending what he did, but defending a Dogs player. (As soon as he left, the attacks were full on)
 

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“If you’re violent against a woman you can expect to be removed from the game,” Greenberg said.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Ok, you money grubbing ****.
 

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I didn't say I was defending of Lodge.

I said I would defend him as a Broncos player.

When he leaves, I will attack him.

People were defending Barba here last time. Not defending what he did, but defending a Dogs player. (As soon as he left, the attacks were full on)
There is no middle ground on this. You either think he's an absolute **** of a human being or you don't. Pick a stance.
 

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“If you’re violent against a woman you can expect to be removed from the game,” Greenberg said.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Ok, you money grubbing ****.
But I provide a character reference to someone who has been violent against women in the past...
 
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Cynically, I think they know Holmes won’t make it in the nfl so have cleared the deck.

Sharks have first dibs but the place is probably in such a state that no front office knows left from right
 

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Wow!!! This is absolutely shocking.. he got given yet another chance in the nrl and he messed it all up BIG TIME! He had a chance to redeem himself and brig some xfactor back into the game for us all to watch..

So very VERY glad we didn’t end up signing him after a lot of us (myself included) were keen to get him back at the doggs to finish his career! It would of been a disaster if we had of and he would of made us all look like fools like he has the cowboys!!!

Lifetime BAN for Barba,it’s all over and If it’s not and he gets yet another chance then it should be. Don’t want to hear his name in NRL again..!!!
 

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Wow!!! This is absolutely shocking.. he got given yet another chance in the nrl and he messed it all up BIG TIME! He had a chance to redeem himself and brig some xfactor back into the game for us all to watch..

So very VERY glad we didn’t end up signing him after a lot of us (myself included) were keen to get him back at the doggs to finish his career! It would of been a disaster if we had of and he would of made us all look like fools like he has the cowboys!!!

Lifetime BAN for Barba,it’s all over and If it’s not and he gets yet another chance then it should be. Don’t want to hear his name in NRL again..!!!
Mate, its good to see people admit/own their comments. I never wanted him back but I definitely don't hold a beer against anyone who did :grinning:

I reckon i can safely assume he has very little to show for several years playing professional footy. And who would even give him a job shovelling shit now? Fuck - i wouldn't.
 

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Channel 10 update news just said, Barba allegedly threw rocks at his wife.
 

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I’m all for this stance
But
As @Realist90 points out all the time,
Equality?
Should it not be violence of any kind?

Shouldn’t we expect sensible behaviour from our players?

Should this stance not be limited to women?

How will the feminist view this?
More very predictable whataboutism.
 

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More very predictable whataboutism.

Whatbaoutism? Perhaps if one is responding to a question or accusation by making a counter-accusation or raising a different issue, then yes, it is whataboutism.

Yet is this a case of whataboutism, or is it a matter of pointing out an inconsistency in one’s position or argument? Is there are difference between the two?

After all, pointing out an inconsistency in a position or argument typically entails mentioning a fact or act that the other person conveniently leaves out from their position or argument, which highlights the inconsistency of their views. Or the application of their principles.

It is hardly relevant or helpful to simply accuse one of whataboutism when raising such points.

In this instance, the point is that either one is against violence of all kinds - or one picks and chooses which varieties of violence are acceptable.
 

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Whatbaoutism? Perhaps if one is responding to a question or accusation by making a counter-accusation or raising a different issue, then yes, it is whataboutism.

Yet is this a case of whataboutism, or is it a matter of pointing out an inconsistency in one’s position or argument? Is there are difference between the two?

After all, pointing out an inconsistency in a position or argument typically entails mentioning a fact or act that the other person conveniently leaves out from their position or argument, which highlights the inconsistency of their views. Or the application of their principles.

It is hardly relevant or helpful to simply accuse one of whataboutism when raising such points.

In this instance, the point is that either one is against violence of all kinds - or one picks and chooses which varieties of violence are acceptable.
Racist, homophobic, transphobe...
 

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Channel 10 update news just said, Barba allegedly threw rocks at his wife.
Why did he have rocks at the Casino? This sounds really weird.
 

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#CEO has to come out and defend his stance of 2013. Yep, no charges laid then because the victim , sorry " alleged" victim would not go through with an interview even though there was physical evidence of some sort of incident. This time it is "a lot different".

##A significant breach of his contract eh???? Has to be something other than a DV don't you think..that would make the contract very interesting reading if it mentions that type of behaviour as a grounds for dismissal.

###Must be slipping because he was pretty quick to view footage of OTHER incidents in a timely manner. A visit to the police station was all he needed there.

####That starts now.....???????????should have been the case always.

#####Shame we can't practice what we preach eh???

Greenberg has really done nothing in this matter as the decision has been taken out of his hands by the Cowboys. By taking the action they have in terminating his deal the NRL have immediately de-registered him.....and even if they would entertain the thought of having him back in the game no one with any sort of decency would even consider giving him a lifeline....


https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/gr...allegation-against-barba-20190202-p50v9l.html


#NRL CEO Todd Greenberg has defended his handling of domestic violence allegations against Ben Barba back in 2013, claiming those circumstances are very different to the latest incident that has effectively ended the former Dally M medalist’s career.

Greenberg has vowed to hand Barba a life ban if there is evidence he physically assaulted his partner Ainslie Currie during an alleged assault in Townsville.

##The North Queensland Cowboys terminated the contract of the 29-year-old on Friday night after an internal investigation found a "significant breach of the terms of his contract".

###Greenberg has not yet seen CCTV footage of the incident but supported the club’s decision to act “quickly and decisively”. Police are investigating the matter but charges have not yet been laid.

Greenberg’s handling of the 2013 allegations came under fresh scrutiny during his press conference on Saturday. Currie denied rumours Barba had assaulted her at the time after photos of her with facial injuries were published.

Greenberg was the chief executive of the Bulldogs at the time and the NRL launched an independent probe into his handling of the matter not long after he shifted to head office. Tony Bannon QC found there was no cover-up and cleared Greenberg of any wrongdoing. No police charges were laid.

Currie, who chose not to be interviewed by NRL investigators, separated from Barba for a period soon afterwards. However, she was adamant the Dally M medalist never assaulted her. She provided a statement to the investigators but declined to be interviewed. She also provided a statement to the press in which she denied being assaulted.

Greenberg said there was nothing more that he could have done at the time and that people should not buy into “rumours and innuendo”.

“What I did was the right thing at the time … you can’t deal with supposition,” Greenberg said.

“I urge you to go back and read the testimonies and interviews with people like his partner at the time,” he said.

“It’s very important you go back and read what she said at the time and understand the integrity unit did an independent investigation, which at the time if you remember, she decided not to participate in, but she provided a statement to.

“It’s very important you read that information.”

Barba had hoped to resurrect his career with the Cowboys following a stint in the UK with St Helens. He returned on the understanding this would be his last chance in the NRL after a string of off-field issues. Barba leaves the Cowboys without having played a game for the club.

####“If you are violent against women, you can expect to be removed from the game. That starts now,” Greenberg said.

#####“The Cowboys overnight have moved quickly and decisively to terminate Ben Barba’s contract. That’s a club showing the leadership that’s required.

I haven’t seen the footage as yet, but if it shows violence towards a woman, really there is no debate. Ben Barba will be out of the NRL immediately and I can’t see him ever returning. Simply, again, if the evidence is there, he simply won’t return under my watch.”


The Barba incident continues a horror off-season for the NRL that has resulted in more than half a dozen off-field incidents, the majority involving alleged violence against women and leading to police charges.

“We had a brilliant 2018 on the field but quite frankly the off-season has been a complete train wreck,” Greenberg said.

He foreshadowed the hardest sanctions ever on players for misbehaviour, particularly if they involve violence against women.

“It’s disgraceful and we can’t stand around and do anything but protect the game. That’s what we’ll do,” he said.

“I called this out several weeks ago. Don’t look behind us to what sanctions have been applied, only look in front. We are going to get tougher on this stuff because we must protect the game.”


The Rugby League Players’ Association will provide support to Barba and his family, but backed the NRL's stance.“We fully support this decision if the allegations are correct and the strong stance the game is taking regarding violence against women," said RLPA CEO Ian Prendergast.
 
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