Why the Bulldogs will finish either second last or bottom four this season.

boggie23

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Nasheed here,
A cautionary post.

I see alot of optimism here at the upcoming season 2021.
I feel the need to temper expectations a bit here.
I feel, like every year, you are getting carried away with your predictions for this year.
Last week I noted how most of you think we will finish around 8 and Wallah ya ad i couldnt help myself and need to give you here a dose of realism.

Firstly, lets look at what we have lost and seasons gone by.
Foran- our best player, if not injury prone, created all our chances and is among the top 5 halves in the league. We dumped him because we were too tight to offer the guy a decent contract. All we had to do is what Manly did and offer the guy a token 'club second year option' and he was ours.
Reimis- A class winger on his day and one of the fastest in the league.
Holland- Attacking genius that was messed around by Pay but could spark something from nothing.
Tolman- I truly cannot make my mind up about this guy, but he was stable.

Just on this, we have lost alot of talent. Right here. Remember, we were going very well last year and couldn't ice games purely due to our fitness.
Take note Kennel, it was'nt our coaching that made us failures last year, it was 100% our conditioning and fitness staff.
This can be verified in three ways, if you dont think my word is enough, which it is.
-A relative of Luke Thompson, a kennel member who i wont name out of respect to England, explicity told us that Luke was shocked at how bad our fitness was last season. I believe him. Do you?
-If not, why did the first thing our new Lebanese led administration do when takin control? They sacked the entire conditioning staff. Thats damning. This stuff NEVER gets past us lebs.
-Trent Barrett, on January 4th, told Hughes on radio he was disgusted at the fitness levels and whilst he avoided criticism, said 'he wont let it happen this year'.

We were ok if we didnt run out of puff.

Lets go back to recruitment and retention.

We lost some quality, but who did we gain?
This is what burns me.
Everyone says we recruited so well.

But did we yo?

Kyle Flanagan-
Can kick goals. Sure. Can he organise? maybe.
But lets look closely at his career.
Started at Cronulla under his Dad. When his dad LEFT, he was not prioritised and the Roosters picked him up cheap.
We all know what happened at the roosters. In unusual fashion, unlike the Roosters and their loyalty levels, they dumped him at seasons end as soon as they could!! Roosters dont do this. This was a red flag. They also had no replacement. They just wanted him gone. No matter what. They paid 1/3rd of his salary to us, thats how bad they wanted him out.
He also screwed up in the Cronulla trial so there has been nothing new I havent seen?
Despite that, I dont think he is terrible, but who was it that called him 'Cogger with a boot?'.

Nick Cotric-
Powerhouse and one of the best young players in the state....as a winger!
Nobody knows talent like Ricky Stuart, kets be honest, this coach is GANGSTA!! He has faith in his guys. He likes Nick. Offered him a contract.
Whst he didnt do, was play him in the centres despite his wishes after 2 players were injured.
Even last season they could have given him a centre spot, but they prefer Scott and the other dude.
If Ricky is hellbent on keeping him away from the centres, what does that say?
What it doesnt say is 'lets give him 650 a year to play a position he has never played before. Never played centre but has seasoned centre money.

*PS. I'm only two players in and already we are saying Ricky and Robinson are wrong but Lynne Anderson (presiding over these recruits) was right. Eeeek.

Jack Hetherington-
Another player paid to play with us.
A player who plays a position that his club desperately needed and has been begging us for a prop.
So cleary has said 'plz bro give us a prop but fuk not that guy'.
Great sign.
The problem is he has a bad rap with the judiciary and is only going to be a negative influence on Thompson who has a psycho himself.
Guys, its going to get ugly when they both feed into each others craziness and they start chewing the ear off a pkayer like Tyson mixed with a 28 weeks later zombie. One will hold a player down whilst the other starts chewing...its going to get real ugly.

Cody Allen-
Trust me, nobody is as big a fan as him than me. I knew everything about him before anyone else did.
But he is white hopoate.
We need speed at the back line and we have bought a turtle where we needed speed most. Will just not have much impact in the faster game.

Barrett-
A failed coach who quit because he didnt have chairs. Who knows how much he truly contributed to the panthers? To be honest he seems ok but the fact remains. We still havent plugged our key position of hooker, have weak halves and we are loaded with second rowers....one of which cannot even make the Mounties run on side`!!!! Yet we have like 2 centres on our books in the 30, and have neglected the position so much that our genuine star outside the 30, Aaron Schoupp, is thinking of leaving!!!

Guys,
We have success ahead of us, but that will be in 2022 when Fox, Burton, Staggs and a new forward joins us.
For now I recommend you jump on the Souths train, have two teams, its good for your mental heakth and they are in for a huge year this year. Trust me. If not them, choose someone else, it makes footy fun in finals time.


Mods, please make this post a sticky!
No way my friend you are back. Wasn’t the same without you :hearteyes::hearteyes:

Literally had no fun on the kennel since you left :p
 

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Didn't bother reading the OP, but that's a fucking bold claim - the team that finished 2nd last last year and only won 3 games, who avoided the spoon only because the Broncos imploded is the team you're predicting to finish bottom 4 (I'm ignoring 2nd last because, well 2nd last is still bottom 4 and seems totally irrelevant to add)

You've really gone out on a limb here

 

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After watching the speed of last nights game, I agree with you. I think will be a better year, but the top teams will embarrass us. Once the fox and Burton’s on board different story.
I agree with that the speed of a top team will destroy us..
 

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They must be bored
Well it does make ya wonder.

Nasheed and all his alias' keep coming back even more delusional and attention seeking each time...seeks to out do his ridiculousness each thread :grinning:
 

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I think 11-12th will be a good season (if also the eye test is good). I think it's more likely we finish in the bottom four than make the eight. That doesn't mean we can't make the eight, it's just my expectations.

I think Foran was our best player last year (including his injuries). I think our second best player was RFM and I think Foran played a bit part in that also. I think Flanagan and Burton (and even Averillo) are better options for the future. I did want us to re-sign Foran (and I think with Burton not coming over early it would of been good for at least one more year, I also didn't know Burton was an option at the time, but I was also focussing more for 2021).

I think Reimis would of been good to keep for the start of this season with Okunbor out injured. I don't think we should of let Reimis go for nothing. I still think he has potential and I think Bellamy will get it out of him (maybe it would of never happened here).

Without being abusive I'll say Holland wasn't good enough and a liability with and especially without the ball. Him not being able to find another club and "retiring" confirms this. After 2019 I don't see how you could keep supporting him (and especially when it was the same in 2020, maybe you get a 1 season pass at max).

I think the game has moved past Tolman. I think he has very little to offer with the ball and his speed is a liability both in attack and defence (he's probably a good defender). I think he turned into a powder puff. I think him and Napa are just as bad as each other (one still on our books). I think you need to be a threat from every position on the field ("Tolman on the 4th" wouldn't of been so bad if he was a dangerous ball runner).

I think Flanagan's shown enough for Barrett to build off. I think he'll defend well, have a good long kicking game and organise. I think he'll be our first genuine halfback since Hodkinson left. I think he's Cleary 2.0 in potential (most likely a lesser version) and he's a couple of years behind in development. He needs to be paired with a runner ideally who has a kicking game also to take some pressure off him and we've done that with the Burton signing. Now we just need to sign a hooker.

Cotric's a gun even at centre. That trial filled me with a lot of confidence. I think he'll be elite tier and most fans favourite player by the end of the season. I think Barrett will game plan around him with early ball and we've already seen him dropping back from kick returns. Just look at him, he's a beast.

Allan and Hetherington will both be good signings. Allan's allowed us to move Hopoate back to the centres (his best position). Allan is a NRL standard fullback (around the top 10 mark) whereas Meaney isn't. I think Allan's ball playing will be valuable and him and Flanagan will link up very nicely. Hetherington will offer more than Tolman who's the man he's replacing. I need to see a bit more of him but he was strong in the trial. I think he's good enough at least to be on the bench (I still think we're a quality prop short).

Waddell I haven't been the biggest fan off, that's from his stint at Manly and his first trial game with us (I think him and DWZ were terrible, but mainly due to errors). I currently think he's a benchy if we're not running with a utility or depth. I hope Barrett doesn't play favourites with him if he continues to not show anything. I still like RFM and Doorey ahead of him.
 

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Nashweed, you are getting.....

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I think the game has moved past Tolman. I think he has very little to offer with the ball and his speed is a liability both in attack and defence (he's probably a good defender). I think he turned into a powder puff. I think him and Napa are just as bad as each other (one still on our books). I think you need to be a threat from every position on the field ("Tolman on the 4th" wouldn't of been so bad if he was a dangerous ball runner).
Perfectly said
 

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Or Oately Dog who suddenly became Twin Turbo, if they are not the same person then 100% they are soul mates :tearsofjoy:
Definitely not the same person, I have never lived or worked in Oatley for a start.

Go Dogs
 

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- Absolutely shit post

- on game day or any day (A BIG NO NO)

- spelling grammar could use some attention

- Not a true DOGGIES supporter

- Negative vibe (we who bleed blue and white don’t need or want to hear that)

- close this thread ASAP..!!!
 

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I believe Allen will be good with his ball returns. However, he must come down our left side and link up with Cotric and Meaney.
 

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Good one :grinning:

Needs a few dog type Easter eggs lying around too lol
 

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Bottom 4 already includes 2nd last - no need to say it twice.
 
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