Why Don't We Score More Points

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The Dogs have the lowest points scored of all teams in the finals.
Last night, apart from field goals, we scored all our points in the first 20 minutes.
We spent a lot of the next 20 minutes - around ten sets, on Manly's line at the fifth tackle and did not produce any points.
When you look at the kick options taken - they didn't put us in a position to score. They produced line drop outs and more pressure on Manly, and we still didn't turn that into points, or in a couple of cases kicks by Reynold's were caught by opposition players who took off down field. Luckily they didn't score.
A pass from Hodkinson to Brown was too high and sailed into touch on a certain try resulting in Graham giving Hodko a spray. Brown got another spray for a weak offload losing us possession near the line.
Yes - we should have gone in to the sheds at half time at 30 - 6. The possession and completion rates were ours.
It is this one thing that came back to curse us in the second half when it was a good arm wrestle for 25 minutes before Manly again scored. Their tactic of taking us on at the side of the posts to score produced the results for them, including Ennis fumble. Cherry Evans up and unders going real high and giving Manly time to get to Perrett resulted in a number of fumbles from him and is something Penriths coach will have noticed for sure. Brown's ball control is another issue - he was stripped twice.
Manly ran more metres than we did in the second half.

We dominate in the first half and need to turn that domination into more points going into the next two games to win them.
We seem to match the opposition until we tire toward the end of the game and then let them in for points.

It comes down to 5th tackle kicking options on the line. THAT is where we can score more, and be impossible to be run down late in the game.
Hodko and especially Reynolds need to do this a lot more effectively
 
because the video referee is an idiot
 
While I wish we would make it a bit easier for ourselves there is only one point I care about and that is the one more we score than our opposition.
 
The Dogs have the lowest points scored of all teams in the finals.
Last night, apart from field goals, we scored all our points in the first 20 minutes.
We spent a lot of the next 20 minutes - around ten sets, on Manly's line at the fifth tackle and did not produce any points.
When you look at the kick options taken - they didn't put us in a position to score. They produced line drop outs and more pressure on Manly, and we still didn't turn that into points, or in a couple of cases kicks by Reynold's were caught by opposition players who took off down field. Luckily they didn't score.
A pass from Hodkinson to Brown was too high and sailed into touch on a certain try resulting in Graham giving Hodko a spray. Brown got another spray for a weak offload losing us possession near the line.
Yes - we should have gone in to the sheds at half time at 30 - 6. The possession and completion rates were ours.
It is this one thing that came back to curse us in the second half when it was a good arm wrestle for 25 minutes before Manly again scored. Their tactic of taking us on at the side of the posts to score produced the results for them, including Ennis fumble. Cherry Evans up and unders going real high and giving Manly time to get to Perrett resulted in a number of fumbles from him and is something Penriths coach will have noticed for sure. Brown's ball control is another issue - he was stripped twice.
Manly ran more metres than we did in the second half.

We dominate in the first half and need to turn that domination into more points going into the next two games to win them.
We seem to match the opposition until we tire toward the end of the game and then let them in for points.

It comes down to 5th tackle kicking options on the line. THAT is where we can score more, and be impossible to be run down late in the game.
Hodko and especially Reynolds need to do this a lot more effectively

a bit of a rant. And we dont have the least points scored in the finals. Pre finals points are irrelevant now.

Also...we have scored 28 + 18 = 46. We let in 4 + 17 = 21.

Our finals differential is 25.
Souths have scored 40-24. Differential 16.
Penrith have scored 19-18. Differential is 1.
Roosters have scored 18+31 = 49. They let in 19 + 30 = 49. Differential = 0.

We have the BEST differential of any team in the finals right now. All main season stats are irrelevant once the finals start. They only dictate where on the ladder you start the finals from. Its a new ballgame in the finals, and we are arguably the best form team in the finals now.
 
a bit of a rant. And we dont have the least points scored in the finals.

Also...we have scored 28 + 18 = 46. We let in 4 + 17 = 21.

Our finals differential is 25.
Souths have scored 40-24. Differential 16.
Penrith have scored 19-18. Differential is 1.
Roosters have scored 18+31 = 49. They let in 19 + 30 = 49. Differential = 0.

We have the BEST differential of any team in the finals right now. All main season stats are irrelevant once the finals start. They only dictate where on the ladder you start the finals from. Its a new ballgame in the finals, and we are arguably the best form team in the finals now.

I think he meant that of the teams that made the finals we scored the least points during the regular season.
 
I think he meant that of the teams that made the finals we scored the least points during the regular season.

Thats why i say its irrelevant now. Finals are a new ballgame. We have the best F/A in the finals, and thats all that matters now.
 
Yes - I meant through the season.

I would hope I'm not the only one a bit concerned why we didn't turn great attack into more points in the first half against Manly.
 
Thats why i say its irrelevant now. Finals are a new ballgame. We have the best F/A in the finals, and thats all that matters now.

I don't think it matters at all... Nothing matters here on out but winning. For example Roosters are at 0 and cowboys would be at close to 20. But the Cowboys would happily swap in a second. If we win the next two games by one point and souths win against the roosters by 20 then lose to us, they would have a better F/A than us, but who cares.
 
I would hope I'm not the only one a bit concerned why we didn't turn great attack into more points in the first half against Manly.

Yes and no.

i would have liked us to take advantage of those opportunities we created early on but in the big scheme of things it is irrelevant. We have to be better next week for sure, but the result yesterday would never have helped us with that.
 
We are saving our points for the big one
 
Yeah but our 2nd half performance needs to improve from last night.
 
a bit of a rant. And we dont have the least points scored in the finals. Pre finals points are irrelevant now.

Also...we have scored 28 + 18 = 46. We let in 4 + 17 = 21.

Our finals differential is 25.
Souths have scored 40-24. Differential 16.
Penrith have scored 19-18. Differential is 1.
Roosters have scored 18+31 = 49. They let in 19 + 30 = 49. Differential = 0.

We have the BEST differential of any team in the finals right now. All main season stats are irrelevant once the finals start. They only dictate where on the ladder you start the finals from. Its a new ballgame in the finals, and we are arguably the best form team in the finals now.

While the stats dont lie , a lot of us agree with junkyard . Would be nice to see the boys throw the ball around a bit at the start of second halves . An improvement in our game is the fifth tackle grubber kick . While you may not score off it every time - at least we get a repeat set of six .
Im really worried that we are relying on skinny leads . The Cowboys showed there is no such phrase as " play catch up footy " anymore when you can put 30 unanswered points on the Roosters .
I feel most teams respect us - but dont fear us .
 
Had we went in say 30-6 at halftime. It wouldn't had changed a thing. Manly were always going to come back in the 2nd half. There season was on the line and the have a great side. Finals footy is a totally different game. It doesn't matter how u win how ugly it looks as long as you win.... to the original poster I think ur being a bit harsh...
 
a bit of a rant. And we dont have the least points scored in the finals. Pre finals points are irrelevant now.

Also...we have scored 28 + 18 = 46. We let in 4 + 17 = 21.

Our finals differential is 25.
Souths have scored 40-24. Differential 16.
Penrith have scored 19-18. Differential is 1.
Roosters have scored 18+31 = 49. They let in 19 + 30 = 49. Differential = 0.

We have the BEST differential of any team in the finals right now. All main season stats are irrelevant once the finals start. They only dictate where on the ladder you start the finals from. Its a new ballgame in the finals, and we are arguably the best form team in the finals now.
Reading posts like this and looking at those numbers fills me with false hope, lol.
I still love it though
 
a bit of a rant. And we dont have the least points scored in the finals. Pre finals points are irrelevant now.

Also...we have scored 28 + 18 = 46. We let in 4 + 17 = 21.

Our finals differential is 25.
Souths have scored 40-24. Differential 16.
Penrith have scored 19-18. Differential is 1.
Roosters have scored 18+31 = 49. They let in 19 + 30 = 49. Differential = 0.

We have the BEST differential of any team in the finals right now. All main season stats are irrelevant once the finals start. They only dictate where on the ladder you start the finals from. Its a new ballgame in the finals, and we are arguably the best form team in the finals now.

Great point. It comes down to the fact we have the best defence in the comp. When defending out line, we are almost unbreakable. Take away Manly's first try which came from an amazingly quick play the ball, Manly scored both tries from broken field plays. We just seem very comfortable in defending leads. Going to be a test against Panthers though as they have shown to be relentless attackers all year.
 
I want to see us win the Grand Final as much as the most dedicated Bulldog fan that ever walked.
I think you can love your team -and want them to do better at the same time.

I am disappointed given our dominance in the first half that we didn't score more points and put the game too far away for Manly to catch up.
We were on their line again and AGAIN - and didn't turn that into points.
Enjoy the win everyone - I'm just trying to have a discussion about the game, and hear what others think.
 
Apparently 20 points is the magic number. Whenever we put on 20 or more we win the game. Crazy Stuff
 
It looks like we stop trying to score after we get a lead. We shouldve at least scored once when starling was in the bin and sealed the game
 
Not that we stop trying to score. We just change the way we attack. The intensity is still there, but the desperation to put on more points makes us lose focus and do stupid things. We stop playing as a team, and get in each others' way.
 
win the preliminary final 1-0 and then the grand final 1-0
 
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