News 'We need to get to the bottom of it': Manager baffled as Bulldogs ice out skipper

[SexBomb]

Aren't Journalists supposed to not give up their sources. If buzz actually gave him up he's a total asswipe.

Yeah, that's a given.

 

[SexBomb]

My take on this...

 

[D.O.W.]

Is this gospel? Who's your sauce!!

Me

 

[D.O.W.]

There’s a bucket load of assumption in that spiel, none of which is known, just wild guesses.

What do we actually know for certain?

Not farkin much, it would seem that “some poly players” asked RFM to talk to CC about training. We don’t know who the “some poly players” actually are. RFM as Club Captain is duty bound to pass the message on, that’s part of his role.

That’s pretty much it.

Did RFM complain about his personal workload? I can’t imagine that being the case, he did extras on the extras to recover from his bitch of a foot injury. He kept at it, full on, despite many set backs, and not for the first time. Complaining about his training simply doesn’t fit with his previous actions.

What we do know is RFM has a valid and enforceable contract, he is not an employee, he can not be simply fired and told to fark off. If we want to terminate his contract then there has to be grounds for us doing that. Specifically what clause in his contract did he breech? I can’t see passing on thoughts from players to coach would be remotely considered a breech.

There is more here, as many have noted.


Always a Bulldog

The issue is representing a group of professional athletes in approaching the coach about training “too hard” in a professional elite sport… that much is not an assumption. Has nothing to do with RFMs workload….

 

[TwinTurbo]

The issue is representing a group of professional athletes in approaching the coach about training “too hard” in a professional elite sport… that much is not an assumption. Has nothing to do with RFMs workload….

Representing players is in any Club Captain’s job description.

Always a Bulldog

 

[Nate DAWG]

Representing players is in any Club Captain’s job description.

Always a Bulldog

Setting cultural standards is also important bro. Representing players who are complaining about training too hard and having massages too late in a professional sports environment is fkn madness. Where does talking to Buzz about these issues fit into the job description?

 

[TwinTurbo]

Setting cultural standards is also important bro. Representing players who are complaining about training too hard and having massages too late in a professional sports environment is fkn madness. Where does talking to Buzz about these issues fit into the job description?

RFM appears to have set plenty of very high standards in his personal dedication over many years.

His job is to represent players, even if he doesn’t agree with them.

What clause in his contract did he breach by talking to Drunkfield? There is in fact a clause in NRL Contracts regarding being available to the media.

Did he even talk to him specifically about this? The Drunk, like most media, are very adept at weaselling comments from a conversation about something else entirely.


Always a Bulldog

 

[Nate DAWG]

RFM appears to have set plenty of very high standards in his personal dedication over many years.

His job is to represent players, even if he doesn’t agree with them.

What clause in his contract did he breach by talking to Drunkfield? There is in fact a clause in NRL Contracts regarding being available to the media.

Did he even talk to him specifically about this? The Drunk, like most media, are very adept at weaselling comments from a conversation about something else entirely.


Always a Bulldog

Disagree bro.

 

[bowleggedwog]

Hahaha. I’ve just hit “ignore” on a poster and all his burner accounts. Life here is now much better

Poor Polly lol

 

[EXPLORER]

Setting cultural standards is also important bro. Representing players who are complaining about training too hard and having massages too late in a professional sports environment is fkn madness. Where does talking to Buzz about these issues fit into the job description?

Again, you hit the nail on the head and drove it home.

Raymond is clearly been found out as a snitch.

It will all get swept under the carpet once the dust settles.
But Raymond has been found out snitching to Buzz and that is unacceptable.

 

[EXPLORER]

Disagree bro.

I think you may know something I have also been told

 

[EXPLORER]

RFM appears to have set plenty of very high standards in his personal dedication over many years.

His job is to represent players, even if he doesn’t agree with them.

What clause in his contract did he breach by talking to Drunkfield? There is in fact a clause in NRL Contracts regarding being available to the media.

Did he even talk to him specifically about this? The Drunk, like most media, are very adept at weaselling comments from a conversation about something else entirely.


Always a Bulldog

Mate, there is clauses in contracts about representing your club in a positive light and not bringing it down or in disrepute

Now nothing is proven, but there is strong oil that Raymond and another player, I'm not going to name, became disgruntled at the club.
Caused a lot of negative vibes within the playing group and also went to the media with their narrative.

All designed to bring the club down.
That's a breach of contract.

Now the fact they are not sacked by the club is because it's not that easy and there are some other sensitive issues at play.

I don't care how the media portray it or what you think you know.

But the club is being more than gracious to a few players through this debacle.

They should count themselves lucky.
No other business would still be paying their wages given the circumstances.

 

[Bulldogz82]

Gus trying to make it very uncomfortable for rfm by basically not allowing him back to training, eventually ray will just ask for a release which will cost less. No player wants to be told to stay away from training. It's embarrassing

 

[GA45]

RFM appears to have set plenty of very high standards in his personal dedication over many years.

Maybe off it but never on it. He’s been an average at best player for many years at the dogs. Time to move on.

 

[Gene Krupa]

What clause in his contract did he breach by talking to Drunkfield? There is in fact a clause in NRL Contracts regarding being available to the media.

There are clauses about not bringing the club into disrepute.

 

[EXPLORER]

Gus trying to make it very uncomfortable for rfm by basically not allowing him back to training, eventually ray will just ask for a release which will cost less. No player wants to be told to stay away from training. It's embarrassing

Exactly right.
The club has done nothing legally wrong.
The clubs obligations under the contract is to pay his salary.
Whilst ever the club pays the salary, there is no breach of contract by the club.

It's in Raymond's best interest to find another club, or if he can not, he just sits back and collects his pay.

 

[Gene Krupa]

Gus trying to make it very uncomfortable for rfm by basically not allowing him back to training, eventually ray will just ask for a release which will cost less. No player wants to be told to stay away from training. It's embarrassing

He won't ask for a release, he wants all the money he can get. I doubt another club want him, seeing what he did.

 

[bcmf]

Is he physically barred? What would happen if he rocks up?

 

[EXPLORER]

He won't ask for a release, he wants all the money he can get. I doubt another club want him, seeing what he did.

His career is over if he doesn't get another contract at another club.
That's really the stand off at the moment.
No other club will take him.
Largely due to his age, injury history, and his bad attitude.

 

[EXPLORER]

Is he physically barred? What would happen if he rocks up?

Haha, Good question.
No doubt he would be politely asked to leave,
Security or police would be called to escort him away if he didn't leave.