U.S. Politics - Thread

[Gene Krupa]

I’m not a politician’ nonsense of Agent Orange, who, quite ironically has just been charged in violation of the Espionage Act.

He's turned it into a fundraiser, for himself.

And the deliverance people are falling for it.

 

[Nate DAWG]

Yep.
If america sneezes, the world catches a cold...

It does but the investment of people in Trump across the world is a strange phenomenon. He is just as bad as any politician but has fans across the globe where he can do no wrong. There were literally people storming the Capitol when he left office. The left/right team arguments are so fkn tedious. My only team is the bulldogs

 

[DinkumDog]

He's turned it into a fundraiser, for himself.

And the deliverance people are falling for it.

Yeah the ‘Save The Election’ fund was my favourite. Raised ~$250m and the punters got nothing for it (were never going to, but you got a purdy mouth ).

The money went to Orange and his buddies via their PAC’s. But such things aren’t illegal, campaign finance laws only apply BEFORE an election and there wasn’t a precedent (to my knowledge) because everyone prior who’d lost an election copped it on the chin. But not Orange, he’s not used to not getting his own way…

 

[Gene Krupa]

Yep.
If america sneezes, the world catches a cold...

So that's how I caught my cold.

 

[XPICATE]

He's turned it into a fundraiser, for himself.

And the deliverance people are falling for it.

Are you aware of the Biden family and their business dealings? Talk about squealing pigs..

 

[DinkumDog]

Are you aware of the Biden family and their business dealings?

You’re about 3 years too late to talk about Hunter’s laptop @likeadoggy .

The thing is, this left/right stuff ain’t new.
I remember Republicans long before MAGA banging on about the ‘Clinton Crime Family’ as just one example. But that’s not the point - the point is haters gonna hate depending on your flavour and your Orange hero is no different to anyone who came before him. In fact in some ways he’s worse, hence the prosecutions. But let me guess - he’s done nothing wrong and they’re all just a #witchhunt - right?

 

[XPICATE]

You’re about 3 years too late to talk about Hunter’s laptop @likeadoggy .

lol

 

[DinkumDog]

lol

Sensational reply @Tlamb. Is @XPICATE only your third TK account or there’s others we’ve missed? .

 

[XPICATE]

So that's how I caught my cold.

No,your immune system is failing you.

 

[DinkumDog]

No,your immune system is failing you.

Should’ve got the Covid vax.
Oh oh, what have I started .

 

[Philistine]

Trump claiming election fraud was bad. As it is when Hilary did it. But he literally demanded that Pence overturn the election and hand it to him rather than Biden. That's not clutching at straws. That's a dictator move.

What you are claiming is simply not true. Trump did not demand that Pence declare him the winner, he demanded that Pence hold off on certifying the Biden win to allow more time to investigate the claims of election fraud. Trump realized that once Pence confirmed the Biden win, it would no longer matter if election fraud were to be proved because the result would stand anyway.

 

[XPICATE]

What you are claiming is simply not true. Trump did not demand that Pence declare him the winner, he demanded that Pence hold off on certifying the Biden win to allow more time to investigate the claims of election fraud. Trump realized that once Pence confirmed the Biden win, it would no longer matter if election fraud were to be proved because the result would stand anyway.

There is just no way hacky would lie for convenience, absolutely not.

 

[DinkumDog]

What you are claiming is simply not true. Trump did not demand that Pence declare him the winner, he demanded that Pence hold off on certifying the Biden win to allow more time to investigate the claims of election fraud. Trump realized that once Pence confirmed the Biden win, it would no longer matter if election fraud were to be proved because the result would stand anyway.

Even though the courts had rejected ~60 legal challenges to the results prior to that and not a single one had proven anything regarding fraud? He still wanted ‘more time’? C’mon. By that time he was so desperate to stay in power he was willing to do anything - as proven by the call with Raffensperger just days before, which he’s also likely to be indicted for.

 

[Philistine]

Even though the courts had rejected ~60 legal challenges to the results prior to that and not a single one had proven anything regarding fraud?

In the period between the election and January 6th. there were something like 80 legal challenges. Do you know how many of those challenges progressed to the point where actual evidence was presented? None of them! They were all thrown out for "lack of standing".

The person or body bringing an action is claiming to have been "damaged" by someone else's behaviour, and wants the court to make him "whole" again, usually (but not in this case) by the award of money. In every case, the court ruled that the person bringing the case was not personally damaged, or was damaged by someone other than the defendant. Hence no "standing" to continue.

 

[Disposable Hero]

You guys can argue amongst yourselves.

The reallity is Trump will be Next US President.

 

[DinkumDog]

In the period between the election and January 6th. there were something like 80 legal challenges. Do you know how many of those challenges progressed to the point where actual evidence was presented? None of them! They were all thrown out for "lack of standing".

The person or body bringing an action is claiming to have been "damaged" by someone else's behaviour, and wants the court to make him "whole" again, usually (but not in this case) by the award of money. In every case, the court ruled that the person bringing the case was not personally damaged, or was damaged by someone other than the defendant. Hence no "standing" to continue.

So you’ll try to argue some technicality as if it brings credibility to the process and disregard that by that stage lawyers representing Trump in this matter including Giuliani and Powell were throwing around wild conspiracies including the involvement of China, Venezuela and ‘Italian Satellites’ in vote rigging? OK.

Hell, even the GOP funded ‘Cyber Ninjas’ were unable to find anything. Trump had no valid evidence of widespread fraud, he knew it and he allowed (and encouraged) the shitshow that ensued. And now it might just catch up with him. Time will tell.

 

[The DoggFather]

You guys can argue amongst yourselves.

The reallity is Trump will be Next US President.

Meh, murika is imploding. Doesn't matter who the "leader" is.

But seeing the lefties screech again will be entertaining if the annoying orange wins lol

 

[Gene Krupa]

No,your immune system is failing you.

Cause I have no spleen.

 

[Gene Krupa]

You guys can argue amongst yourselves.

As if we argue with each other.

 

[DinkumDog]

You guys can argue amongst yourselves.

The reallity is Trump will be Next US President.

I dunno (but I said he wouldn’t win in 2016 too).

Whilst there’s not many crimes that can prevent him from holding office again (not to mention no guarantee of conviction), it seems that MAGA aside there’s a growing sentiment that he can’t be returned to power and some billionaires including Charles Koch have vowed to fund a Trump rival to the nomination.

Let’s face it though, apart from his ego and opportunity to further enrich himself, Trump mainly wants the Oval again to shield himself from prosecution.