Todd Greenberg a no-show for lunch meeting with Bulldogs chair Ray Dib

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Canterbury's last-ditch bid for significant salary cap relief next year has suffered a major blow with NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg to be a no-show at a lunch on Monday called by Bulldogs chairman Ray Dib.

Greenberg was among those invited by Dib to a get-together at Canterbury Leagues Club at which the idea of a 'soft cap' for 2018 was set to be floated, with the Bulldogs having overshot an indicative cap figure of $9.2 million for next season.

Rival clubs determined not to allow the Bulldogs to wriggle their way out of their situation were angry at the prospect of the NRL chief attending the meeting on Monday.

Greenberg's non-attendance will therefore head off a potentially furious reaction from some who oppose raising the player payment spending ceiling for 2018 after they were advised to work around a figure of $9.14m in April.

The NRL chief had planned to go along and give the club officials in attendance an update on the collective bargaining agreement talks with the Rugby League Players' Association.

However, he is now expected to be instead tied up in the first of three consecutive days of intensive negotiations with the players' union.

It is understood Greenberg notified Dib on Sunday of his inability to attend the impromptu meeting.

Eels chief Bernie Gurr will be another absentee on Monday, with a club spokesman saying that "Parramatta will not be attending the meeting".

Penrith chief Brian Fletcher is away on a family matter and was considered unlikely that anyone else from the Panthers would attend. It was unclear on Sunday if officials from other Sydney clubs would turn up to Monday's lunch. Manly and Wests Tigers were not invited to attend the meeting organised by Dib.

As reported by Fairfax Media on Saturday the NRL is poised to effectively raise next year's spending limit on players to $9.5m by taking a $300,000 veteran players' allowance outside the $9.2m cap and permitting clubs to spend it at their discretion.

The expectation is that could be the solution to appease the RLPA, who opposed the long-serving player allowance being inside the cap, and the required 75 per cent of clubs despite reluctance from some about any lift beyond the number they were told to budget around four months ago.

The Raiders were another club who had spent beyond the indicative cap for 2018 but it is understood the NRL's concession on the veteran's allowance would help solve a lot of their problems.

The same can't be said for the Bulldogs, who are facing the likelihood of having to shed multiple players to be compliant with the cap by the first round of next season.

Canterbury have had the contracts of Aaron Woods and Kieran Foran provisionally registered by the NRL on the condition they are under the salary cap by round one next year.

However they still have a million dollars worth of talent to offload, hence the desire from the club to increase the cap next year.

There appears to be little appetite from rivals to come to their aid, with interest in the players Canterbury want to release diminishing by the week given the standard of football they have been playing.

Club chairmen and chief executives will on Thursday attend a meeting at Rugby League Central, where it is expected Greenberg will propose a finalised salary cap and collective bargaining agreement.

RLPA board member Tim Mannah last week said it was "presumptuous" of the NRL to consider the players would agree to a $9.2 million salary cap, but it is hope a lock-in with the NRL this week will see the two parties reach an agreement.

The clubs will need to vote on Thursday, before a large group of players will gather on Monday week to sign off on the agreement that could be finalised in the coming days.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/rug...h-bulldogs-chair-ray-dib-20170813-gxv939.html

It would certainly appear all is falling apart for the Club. Any Official of our Club who blows the salary cap in itself should be shown the door and banned for life!
 

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Canterbury's last-ditch bid for significant salary cap relief next year has suffered a major blow with NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg to be a no-show at a lunch on Monday called by Bulldogs chairman Ray Dib.

Greenberg was among those invited by Dib to a get-together at Canterbury Leagues Club at which the idea of a 'soft cap' for 2018 was set to be floated, with the Bulldogs having overshot an indicative cap figure of $9.2 million for next season.

Rival clubs determined not to allow the Bulldogs to wriggle their way out of their situation were angry at the prospect of the NRL chief attending the meeting on Monday.

Greenberg's non-attendance will therefore head off a potentially furious reaction from some who oppose raising the player payment spending ceiling for 2018 after they were advised to work around a figure of $9.14m in April.

The NRL chief had planned to go along and give the club officials in attendance an update on the collective bargaining agreement talks with the Rugby League Players' Association.

However, he is now expected to be instead tied up in the first of three consecutive days of intensive negotiations with the players' union.

It is understood Greenberg notified Dib on Sunday of his inability to attend the impromptu meeting.

Eels chief Bernie Gurr will be another absentee on Monday, with a club spokesman saying that "Parramatta will not be attending the meeting".

Penrith chief Brian Fletcher is away on a family matter and was considered unlikely that anyone else from the Panthers would attend. It was unclear on Sunday if officials from other Sydney clubs would turn up to Monday's lunch. Manly and Wests Tigers were not invited to attend the meeting organised by Dib.

As reported by Fairfax Media on Saturday the NRL is poised to effectively raise next year's spending limit on players to $9.5m by taking a $300,000 veteran players' allowance outside the $9.2m cap and permitting clubs to spend it at their discretion.

The expectation is that could be the solution to appease the RLPA, who opposed the long-serving player allowance being inside the cap, and the required 75 per cent of clubs despite reluctance from some about any lift beyond the number they were told to budget around four months ago.

The Raiders were another club who had spent beyond the indicative cap for 2018 but it is understood the NRL's concession on the veteran's allowance would help solve a lot of their problems.

The same can't be said for the Bulldogs, who are facing the likelihood of having to shed multiple players to be compliant with the cap by the first round of next season.

Canterbury have had the contracts of Aaron Woods and Kieran Foran provisionally registered by the NRL on the condition they are under the salary cap by round one next year.

However they still have a million dollars worth of talent to offload, hence the desire from the club to increase the cap next year.

There appears to be little appetite from rivals to come to their aid, with interest in the players Canterbury want to release diminishing by the week given the standard of football they have been playing.

Club chairmen and chief executives will on Thursday attend a meeting at Rugby League Central, where it is expected Greenberg will propose a finalised salary cap and collective bargaining agreement.

RLPA board member Tim Mannah last week said it was "presumptuous" of the NRL to consider the players would agree to a $9.2 million salary cap, but it is hope a lock-in with the NRL this week will see the two parties reach an agreement.

The clubs will need to vote on Thursday, before a large group of players will gather on Monday week to sign off on the agreement that could be finalised in the coming days.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/rug...h-bulldogs-chair-ray-dib-20170813-gxv939.html

It would certainly appear all is falling apart for the Club. Any Official of our Club who blows the salary cap in itself should be shown the door and banned for life!
To be honest, i love this article and if we are caught for being over, the club should wipe the board and its puppets and jail dib for his lies and bs.. Then we should be allowed to force players on to fit under the cap or at least get the nrl to help offload these deadwood players.... The fire seems like it has finally turned on dib and hasler
 

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I hope no one turns up and he looks like a shit **** sitting by himself.
 

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good!

fucken incompetent bastards.
 

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Raelene castle should take a power point of her work towards bringing in refugees and giving them housing and free memberships lol. I'm sure greenturd would attend that as that will solve the issues surrounding lacklustre crowds at nrl games.
 

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What a fucking mess this club is in. I can not believe that any club officials have allowed this to even come close to happening. It is so utterly unprofessional!! I dont even care if the NRL come down hard on us. Its our own stupid fault. So long as it results in dib and his board being shown the door, and hasler being told to go fuck himself with no lube, then i will be happy.
I think we need to hit rock bottom so that we can begin the rebuilding process.

And another thing, how about the NRL cap the 3rd party payments so that clubs like brisbane cant legally cheat the salary cap.
 

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Hard to believe we are the only club in such a dire situation. Even harder to believe is that the NRL have let us overspend in the cap, as they are already aware of how much cap a club has.

If anything, given the NRL have supremely fucked up the cap idea for 2018, they should let clubs run with what they have, and fix the fucking thing up for 2019.

The idea that a professional sporting code can't figure out how much cap a club can have for the following season this late in the season is a joke.This is a situation the NRL have created, and now clubs are being punished for it.

Our club would be well in it's rights to sue the NRL if they fail to register Woods and Forans contracts for restriction of trade.
 

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The dogs need to be sanctioned and punished for this.
You guys should be made to start on minus 20 next year you cheating kents!
 

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Our club would be well in it's rights to sue the NRL if they fail to register Woods and Forans contracts for restriction of trade.
LMAO.

It's not a restriction of trade, if you are way over the salary cap.

Maybe your club should invest in a calculator.

I want the NRL to register their contracts & sit back & watch what happens.
 

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I'm sorry but this is all the NRL's fault. It's a joke clubs are still going into next season with no idea on what the cap will be.
 

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Why would any clubs who are not over the cap attend?

There is no benefit to them and if I was in their shoes, I would rather see the dogs suffer in the hopes of signing a player for 1/10th of what they are worth when they get desperate.
 

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Ah am I the only one who lols a bit here? The 300k cap increase helps raiders, but not us? Well ok fuck head what does it do?

Jackson/Klemmer are surely here long enough for us to use that to help them.

The media are spinning its 10mil we are at. That leaves us 500k off and we have parted with Kas off the books for 18 too so I doubt they'd know exact figures.

Worst case scenario I think we will want to get rid of Eastwood and the light for me is next year we will finally see a half in our team in Foran and will have more money then most free with Graham and Morris bros off contract and backended will see at least 2.5 to blow. Plus Eastwood if he sticks round. Just hope we spend it right ffs.

I stand by release Graham sign Cronk and release Eastwood or tolman for whatever needs to go under cap if any. Asap. Fuck do both and sign some cheap hard running prick like tetevano.
 
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