Thoughts on the RFM and Topine situation

[Burgler]

Looking at RFM time at dogs. He signed a few round into the 2016 season. We finished 7th that year and he played 14 games. He’s played 100 odd games in 8 seasons. Which averages about 12 games a year. He was with the club the last season we made the finals. Outside of that he’s been in a team that finished 11th, 12th, 12th, 15th, 16th, 12th, 15th.
At the start of the season he was named club captain. He spoke about how much it means and how long he’s been at the club etc.
Then he gets injured, headlines around him being shopped around, then he’s reported to have gone back to NZ for some type of leave. He’s had pneumonia etc etc. Now he’s been named by Buzz to be complaining about training load.
Just seems to be drama after drama surrounding someone who is supposed to be a stable figure within the club. Did he think by being named club captain that he’s an ‘old boy’ now and exempt from the harder training? We won’t know but just doesn’t seem worth persisting with.
It’s a similar case with Topine. He’s been at the club a long time with very limited success, he’s been overlooked by 3-4 coaches during their tenures. Does he also think because he’s been there long enough he doesn’t have to prove himself like the new/up and coming players do.

Are these guys the problem at the club and when you look at the players let go or leaving such as TPJ, Nu Brown, Davey, Pele etc. The common theme seems to be inconsistent form or never cementing a spot. If the club can identify it and remove them rather than carry them for next few years, what’s the issue?
In regards to the player looking at legal action I thought training involved being pushed to your limit mentally and physically to give you an edge of the opposition. Boxers do that sharkbait type training all the time, is it a first for a player to take legal action against their club for training regime?

 

[Snowmann]

We have had on average more plodders on our squad than any other team since the 2017 season in my opinion. When you losing, you attract these guys cause we offer more money for less work. This is the cycle and culture we need to break.

 

[wendog33]

We have had on average more plodders on our squad than any other team since the 2017 season in my opinion. When you losing, you attract these guys cause we offer more money for less work. This is the cycle and culture we need to break.

Part of our problem is we can't seem to get the best out of the players we do sign. Plenty of decent players have come and gone and done much better elsewhere.

We gotta face that fact as well.

 

[Lynchpin]

he’s been overlooked by 3-4 coaches during their tenures.

The common theme amongst all of those coaches, that have not picked him consistently, that have played him out of position, that have played selection games, and played at scapegoating him in favour of those they'd prefer to pick (all of those didn't succeed), is that they were all unsuccessful (every single one of them). They also presided over squads where players (pretty much all of them) regressed; and those that did move on have pretty much universally gone onto achieve greater success at other clubs. Reggies, where this (alleged) player was predominately picked, also did comparatively well, until he wasn't there. (I guess "no talent", "too small', and a "poor work ethic" can succeed if you don't overthink it - who'da thunk).

TPJ, Nu Brown, Davey, Pele

Gee, I wonder what those names have in common? Who recruited these guys? We cannot be getting it that wrong, all of the time, and it being down to just bad luck.

player looking at legal action I thought training involved being pushed to your limit mentally and physically

Can somebody, anybody, for the love of god, please, point me to where the (alleged/threatened) lawsuit is about being trained too hard or not wanting to be present for reasonable hours, or having to wrestle "x" number of teammates, or that these alleged occurrences are even the same player, or related to the alleged lawsuit, or that everyone hasn't lost their collective fucking minds and started jumping to a buzz-grog-fuelled drumbeat like lobotomised zombies. Geezus-Farking-Christ!

 

[craigo]

Both are shit players and should be no where near first grade side. Have never seen a good game from either of them

 

[Nasheed]

Part of our problem is we can't seem to get the best out of the players we do sign. Plenty of decent players have come and gone and done much better elsewhere.

We gotta face that fact as well.

Prepare to be roasted

 

[wendog33]

Prepare to be roasted

Used to it

 

[Nasheed]

Looking at RFM time at dogs. He signed a few round into the 2016 season. We finished 7th that year and he played 14 games. He’s played 100 odd games in 8 seasons. Which averages about 12 games a year. He was with the club the last season we made the finals. Outside of that he’s been in a team that finished 11th, 12th, 12th, 15th, 16th, 12th, 15th.
At the start of the season he was named club captain. He spoke about how much it means and how long he’s been at the club etc.
Then he gets injured, headlines around him being shopped around, then he’s reported to have gone back to NZ for some type of leave. He’s had pneumonia etc etc. Now he’s been named by Buzz to be complaining about training load.
Just seems to be drama after drama surrounding someone who is supposed to be a stable figure within the club. Did he think by being named club captain that he’s an ‘old boy’ now and exempt from the harder training? We won’t know but just doesn’t seem worth persisting with.
It’s a similar case with Topine. He’s been at the club a long time with very limited success, he’s been overlooked by 3-4 coaches during their tenures. Does he also think because he’s been there long enough he doesn’t have to prove himself like the new/up and coming players do.

Are these guys the problem at the club and when you look at the players let go or leaving such as TPJ, Nu Brown, Davey, Pele etc. The common theme seems to be inconsistent form or never cementing a spot. If the club can identify it and remove them rather than carry them for next few years, what’s the issue?
In regards to the player looking at legal action I thought training involved being pushed to your limit mentally and physically to give you an edge of the opposition. Boxers do that sharkbait type training all the time, is it a first for a player to take legal action against their club for training regime?

Absurd he was re-signed for three years.
He might have a point about his training load though. If he’s hasmd so many injuries he may need a special modified workload.
All feeds into the ultimate point though of why is he still here

 

[wendog33]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1698668093923282982

 

[Kenya]

We should not have let Meaney go, and letting Avarillo go is not good.
Local junior etc....nooooooo.

 

[Moey91]

We should not have let Meaney go, and letting Avarillo go is not good.
Local junior etc....nooooooo.

So if we kept averillo, what are the chances his leg injury wouldn’t get worse with our chance to redeem ourselves from this year?

He’s a liability and wish him a speedy recovery and well on his career move, but everyone on here needs to drop the “we shouldn’t have let Averillo go” motives

It’s old and he’s no longer a Bulldog he’s now the enemy