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There goes Holbrook

Bad Billy

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So?
My border collie could’ve coached St. Helens to the minor premiership. They have 6 current and 3 former internationals in their side.
Only the kennel can circle jerk, so hard, over an unproven reserve grade coach.
 

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No more Holbrook threads required as he is no longer bulldogs relevant
 

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Can you imagine if we got Holbrook on a 4yr deal and he was fkn useless....
The Kennel were wankin over Pay because he wasn't brainwashed by Des like Dymock.
Thats aged well.
 

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The dogs ignored Holbrook and the titans grabbed him. The dogs seem intent on ignoring Shaun Wane and the Cowboys are circling. Meanwhile back in Groundhog Day, the masterful dogs board have their hearts set on a an already failed first grade coach. As many have shown before, a good assistant does not necessarily equate to a good head coach. Many a good assistant has particular attributes that can help the halves, or the forwards, or the inside or outside backs. But lack that man management and broader vision necessary to be a successful head coach. Des was a proven head coach who took a shambolic team (on their performance the previous year) and coached them to the two grand finals before the slide, much of which may have come down to collecting his former manly discards who seemed only interested in their pay check.
 

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Holbrook and the Titans aren't doing much better... Only a step above us on 15th.
 

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The dogs ignored Holbrook and the titans grabbed him. The dogs seem intent on ignoring Shaun Wane and the Cowboys are circling. Meanwhile back in Groundhog Day, the masterful dogs board have their hearts set on a an already failed first grade coach. As many have shown before, a good assistant does not necessarily equate to a good head coach. Many a good assistant has particular attributes that can help the halves, or the forwards, or the inside or outside backs. But lack that man management and broader vision necessary to be a successful head coach. Des was a proven head coach who took a shambolic team (on their performance the previous year) and coached them to the two grand finals before the slide, much of which may have come down to collecting his former manly discards who seemed only interested in their pay check.
I was keen on Shaun Wane, but im hapy eniugh with Barrett too. Need i remind how shit the titans still are?
 

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The dogs ignored Holbrook and the titans grabbed him. The dogs seem intent on ignoring Shaun Wane and the Cowboys are circling. Meanwhile back in Groundhog Day, the masterful dogs board have their hearts set on a an already failed first grade coach. As many have shown before, a good assistant does not necessarily equate to a good head coach. Many a good assistant has particular attributes that can help the halves, or the forwards, or the inside or outside backs. But lack that man management and broader vision necessary to be a successful head coach. Des was a proven head coach who took a shambolic team (on their performance the previous year) and coached them to the two grand finals before the slide, much of which may have come down to collecting his former manly discards who seemed only interested in their pay check.
I agree with part of this.
I don’t think they ‘ignored’ Holbrook but genuinely wanted Pay to have a chance to succeed at the time. Holbrook hasn’t set the world on fire at the Titans either.

I agree that Wane would be a compelling choice with 3 titles in 8 years at Wigan but as we saw with Brown and even with Holbrook so far, success in SL doesn’t necessarily translate to NRL success.

Barrett to me is a risk given his results at Manly. If it happens we can only hope he’s learnt and grown as a coach and man manager since then and there doesn’t appear to be many credible alternatives available which is why until the pot boiled over I think the club were aiming at 2022 for a coaching change but have obviously had to shift gears there.
 

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I agree with part of this.
I don’t think they ‘ignored’ Holbrook but genuinely wanted Pay to have a chance to succeed at the time. Holbrook hasn’t set the world on fire at the Titans either.

I agree that Wane would be a compelling choice with 3 titles in 8 years at Wigan but as we saw with Brown and even with Holbrook so far, success in SL doesn’t necessarily translate to NRL success.

Barrett to me is a risk given his results at Manly. If it happens we can only hope he’s learnt and grown as a coach and man manager since then and there doesn’t appear to be many credible alternatives available which is why until the pot boiled over I think the club were aiming at 2022 for a coaching change but have obviously had to shift gears there.
Titans arent bottom of the ladder anymore so give Holbrook some kudos! They are playing a lot better than the last few years and it will take him time to get the better systems happening.

I agree that Barrett is a risk, he was shit at Manly and they had a fantastic roster!
 

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Titans arent bottom of the ladder anymore so give Holbrook some kudos! They are playing a lot better than the last few years and it will take him time to get the better systems happening.

I agree that Barrett is a risk, he was shit at Manly and they had a fantastic roster!
I wasn’t bagging Holbrook and over time he could produce some good results.

Where I was coming from was that many on TK seemed to believe that Holbrook would’ve bought immediate and significant improvement to the Dogs had he been hired this year and I don’t think we can say that’s that case, particularly with our roster still requiring surgery as we all know. These things take time as we’re seeing with the Titans - it’s just hard for passionate fans to cop that reality when your team is struggling - something long time Dogs fans (including me) are not used to.
 

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Holbrook has a massive task ahead to fix what is wrong at Titans. The good thing about that job up there is less pressure so he will have all the time in the world to get it right.

Bulldogs would have spat him out after 2 seasons.
 

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Horses for courses, getting the right man in as head coach isn't just about getting a proven or successful coach from elsewhere it's about the someone who fits in with any given clubs DNA. Justin Holbrook at St Helens was a perfect fit (it wasn't a case of anyone could turn up and win things with a good squad, otherwise the previous incumbent, Keiron Cunningham, would never have gone), I wouldn't necessarily think he'd be the correct appointment at the Bulldogs.

I can only look in as an outsider and wouldn't want to try and teach any dyed in the wool Canterbury fan how to suck eggs, but with the dogs of war culture that I've seen at the club from when I first started to follow rugby league in Australia in the early 80's I would think that Shaun Wane would be a fantastic shout as head coach. He's very single minded, hard headed and can be brutal, he demands total respect and compliance from his players and is extremely loyal and supportive in return. He would bring the hard edged culture back that the club is renowned for and for my money could be the ideal candidate. However it would appear to be academic if Barrett has got the nod.
 
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