WWOS MOLE Terrell May

doggieaaron said:
Yes sometimes trying to be too perfect you miss imperfect nuggets
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It’s Gus and CC they both have a meeting with players and if CC and Gus agree on a player then they will get them. Club first mentality.
 
B-Train said:
When he signed for the Roosters he did. Gus and May have confirmed it was between us and them. When he recently became available, Gus didn't want to pursue him again.
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Sorry to tell you mate but that’s only part of the story. What he’s said is not incorrect but most definitely not all of it
 
The_Chimpster said:
Meh.

The way he's carried on since being released is a turn off imo. Besides, I didn't particularly want him at the club and believe there's a reason why we didn't go after him
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Idk why this thread is still living really but as to your comment I'd say he definitely would have failed the dickhead test.Look at the character of the other 2 brothers ... enough said.
And whilst noone on here likes or rates Robinson Gus and co would have certainly considered why the Rooters were punting the guy who is a very good player it must be said.
 
Why is everyone so hurt we didn’t sign a roosters reject for 2 million over 3 years? Like yes he is an ok player. But at 700k I think king is a better player and a better leader round the club too.

Gus has been spooking this a lot lately “I’d rather have no senior players then bad ones”. And not that May is a senior player but there was a reason the roosters didn’t want him and possibly we didn’t go after him. Yes he is a solid player. But is he worth the cash and will he return on investment. Good players don’t get sacked especially 24 year old props on 450k a year.

Relax guys. Club is heading in the right way. Look at all the players we released. Kautoga, papali’i, patolo, samrani, perham, apparently Eli Clark.

not to be ruthless. But most likely they won’t be playing nrl next season. They would have been players retained by past boards and coaches. But we put red lines through these players. Because we have other younger kids coming through that need the spot. So yeh. I guess May doesn’t fit in with our plans. No real loss. And he is at the tigers. Not the panthers or storm or anyone else. So that says a bit too.
 
boggie23 said:
Why is everyone so hurt we didn’t sign a roosters reject for 2 million over 3 years? Like yes he is an ok player. But at 700k I think king is a better player and a better leader round the club too.

Gus has been spooking this a lot lately “I’d rather have no senior players then bad ones”. And not that May is a senior player but there was a reason the roosters didn’t want him and possibly we didn’t go after him. Yes he is a solid player. But is he worth the cash and will he return on investment. Good players don’t get sacked especially 24 year old props on 450k a year.

Relax guys. Club is heading in the right way. Look at all the players we released. Kautoga, papali’i, patolo, samrani, perham, apparently Eli Clark.

not to be ruthless. But most likely they won’t be playing nrl next season. They would have been players retained by past boards and coaches. But we put red lines through these players. Because we have other younger kids coming through that need the spot. So yeh. I guess May doesn’t fit in with our plans. No real loss. And he is at the tigers. Not the panthers or storm or anyone else. So that says a bit too.
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May was the best middle on the market and available for next year. He's a better player than King. May's worth 600-700k. We're light in the middle next year and still need to sign someone for 2026. We've missed a lot of middle targets over the last couple of years (or players we should of targeted at least). Fans are upset because from the outside looking in it was a massive no brainer signing and we allowed a team towards the bottom of the ladder to significantly strengthen their roster (next year will be super tough).
 
bradyk said:
May was the best middle on the market and available for next year. He's a better player than King. May's worth 600-700k. We're light in the middle next year and still need to sign someone for 2026. We've missed a lot of middle targets over the last couple of years (or players we should of targeted at least). Fans are upset because from the outside looking in it was a massive no brainer signing and we allowed a team towards the bottom of the ladder to significantly strengthen their roster (next year will be super tough).
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I will agree we are weaker next year. So wouldn’t expect the same type of season. I’d be surprised if we make the finals and compete every week like we did this year. In saying that. We do have an academy in Fiji which you would expect to bear some fruits of labour. Then throw in Fafita, Todd, underhill, Hopoi, Damon Marshall, Fanafou Seve. We have Tupouniua and amone coming aswell.

Yes some of these are longer term prospects. But Todd, underhill and hopoi will be on less then 700k between them. We have some experienced journeymen to go along with Hughes and King. And we don’t know what style we will play. We are also looking at Pahulu. So potentially could snag him. Not saying May is a bad player. But he might block the path of one of the younger brigade which we are building towards. Yes it’s frustrating missing out. I do think Thompson or Utoikamanu were better fits potentially. But never mind. I’d rather not settle on a May with what is in the works. I know previous years we would go hard for anyone and end up with a Danny Williams or a Dylan Napa type. I am happy we are playing the longer game and doing it right then settling.
 
boggie23 said:
I will agree we are weaker next year.
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Sorry I just don’t see how we could possibly be “weaker”.

For starters 100% of our 2025 spine will have a preseason together, which wasn’t the case last season with 50% missing. Sexton and Tracy are now included, that on its own is a huge strength.

Last preseason the coaching staff concentrated on defence, which they needed to, and that resulted in a dramatic climb up to 2nd best in the NRL. Those disciplines and principles are now ensconced in every player, no need to learn the basics, this preseason is about improving that strength even further.

With less time required to be spent on defence there will be more time available to spend on attack. Further developing teamwork such that it is automatic, each player now being familiar with the players inside and outside. With that comes the ability to develop plays specifically around the oppositions weaknesses and our strengths.

Looking at the forwards who have left, Farmer Silly, Kautoga, Patolo and Tetevano they have been replaced by better players in Amone and Tupouniua plus Hayes, who will be better after his first 9 NRL games, and Todd, who is hopefully over his broken bones. King and Hughes, particularly, now have had a full NRL season and their games will have progressed as a result.

In the backs our only real loss is JAC, but we do have pretty decent options in Wilson and Montoya, whose kick returns may well suite us better. Plus Xerri has had a full season after 4 years away from the game, there‘s plenty of improvement there.

Last but by no means least, we have stable and capable coaching and high performance staff who have now learnt after a full season how best to work together. Plus the players now know what is expected of them and judging by the early preseason videos and pictures they came back ready to go. I don’t think many, any, of them would have failed their preseason KPI’s.

In summary, I’m seeing plenty of strengthening and no real weakening.

It is worth keeping in mind that for every team that has strengthened their roster, by adding players, another team has been weakened, by loosing those players.


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TwinTurbo said:
Sorry I just don’t see how we could possibly be “weaker”.

For starters 100% of our 2025 spine will have a preseason together, which wasn’t the case last season with 50% missing. Sexton and Tracy are now included, that on its own is a huge strength.

Last preseason the coaching staff concentrated on defence, which they needed to, and that resulted in a dramatic climb up to 2nd best in the NRL. Those disciplines and principles are now ensconced in every player, no need to learn the basics, this preseason is about improving that strength even further.

With less time required to be spent on defence there will be more time available to spend on attack. Further developing teamwork such that it is automatic, each player now being familiar with the players inside and outside. With that comes the ability to develop plays specifically around the oppositions weaknesses and our strengths.

Looking at the forwards who have left, Farmer Silly, Kautoga, Patolo and Tetevano they have been replaced by better players in Amone and Tupouniua plus Hayes, who will be better after his first 9 NRL games, and Todd, who is hopefully over his broken bones. King and Hughes, particularly, now have had a full NRL season and their games will have progressed as a result.

In the backs our only real loss is JAC, but we do have pretty decent options in Wilson and Montoya, whose kick returns may well suite us better. Plus Xerri has had a full season after 4 years away from the game, there‘s plenty of improvement there.

Last but by no means least, we have stable and capable coaching and high performance staff who have now learnt after a full season how best to work together. Plus the players now know what is expected of them and judging by the early preseason videos and pictures they came back ready to go. I don’t think many, any, of them would have failed their preseason KPI’s.

In summary, I’m seeing plenty of strengthening and no real weakening.

It is worth keeping in mind that for every team that has strengthened their roster, by adding players, another team has been weakened, by loosing those players.


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Good points. I think the one thing to consider is that some other teams have significantly improved their rosters or bought key players. So while we make what could be considered minor gains, others make giant strides. Some of these teams are starting from a far way back, so have plenty of ground to make up.. but we'll see. Im really optimistic that our boys will do even better than last year
 
I agree also don't think we are weaker for 25, other teams may be more aware and some will improve so it certainly won't be easy but our roster is not weaker.
Personally I trust why they didn't get May so I'm not bothered, do acknowledge he is a good player so can only assume something significant enough was "off" character wise..
Move on those hurt by this is my advice and look through the windscreen not the rear-view mirror.
 
dekepefc said:
Good points. I think the one thing to consider is that some other teams have significantly improved their rosters or bought key players.
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And for every one of those improvement to that team's roster another team has suffered a regression.

So while we make what could be considered minor gains, others make giant strides.
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And for every team that made giant strides another team made giant losses.

Some of these teams are starting from a far way back, so have plenty of ground to make up.. but we'll see.
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Were they a far way back solely because of their playing roster or were there other reasons? Shit coach? Horrid front office? Poor high performance team? Club infighting that fractures a team? There are far more reasons than simply players than consign a team to mediocrity.

really optimistic that our boys will do even better than last year
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We all should be.


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How can we possibly be weaker this season than last ?? ..... virtually every player in all likelihood is going to improve both within the system and individually.

Burton and Sexton

King and Hughes

Critta and Xerri

Just to name three combinations who i expect to improve ......

Also, the bench is going to be to be way better.

We have lost Fox .... we will miss his speed but will improve significantly in other areas.
 
TwinTurbo said:
Sorry I just don’t see how we could possibly be “weaker”.

For starters 100% of our 2025 spine will have a preseason together, which wasn’t the case last season with 50% missing. Sexton and Tracy are now included, that on its own is a huge strength.

Last preseason the coaching staff concentrated on defence, which they needed to, and that resulted in a dramatic climb up to 2nd best in the NRL. Those disciplines and principles are now ensconced in every player, no need to learn the basics, this preseason is about improving that strength even further.

With less time required to be spent on defence there will be more time available to spend on attack. Further developing teamwork such that it is automatic, each player now being familiar with the players inside and outside. With that comes the ability to develop plays specifically around the oppositions weaknesses and our strengths.

Looking at the forwards who have left, Farmer Silly, Kautoga, Patolo and Tetevano they have been replaced by better players in Amone and Tupouniua plus Hayes, who will be better after his first 9 NRL games, and Todd, who is hopefully over his broken bones. King and Hughes, particularly, now have had a full NRL season and their games will have progressed as a result.

In the backs our only real loss is JAC, but we do have pretty decent options in Wilson and Montoya, whose kick returns may well suite us better. Plus Xerri has had a full season after 4 years away from the game, there‘s plenty of improvement there.

Last but by no means least, we have stable and capable coaching and high performance staff who have now learnt after a full season how best to work together. Plus the players now know what is expected of them and judging by the early preseason videos and pictures they came back ready to go. I don’t think many, any, of them would have failed their preseason KPI’s.

In summary, I’m seeing plenty of strengthening and no real weakening.

It is worth keeping in mind that for every team that has strengthened their roster, by adding players, another team has been weakened, by loosing those players.


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Yes agree. We are in a much better place without T. May in our ranks and are now a stronger team in 2025+. IMO May is likely to be a divisive character disrupting team harmony and balance.
 
billy beane said:
How can we possibly be weaker this season than last ?? ..... virtually every player in all likelihood is going to improve both within the system and individually.

Burton and Sexton

King and Hughes

Critta and Xerri

Just to name three combinations who i expect to improve ......

Also, the bench is going to be to be way better.

We have lost Fox .... we will miss his speed but will improve significantly in other areas.
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If we show the same attitude and commitment we can only improve !
Overall we are a better team !!!
 
The_Chimpster said:
Meh.

The way he's carried on since being released is a turn off imo. Besides, I didn't particularly want him at the club and believe there's a reason why we didn't go after him
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All he has done since leaving is defend his own character, nothing wrong with that.
 
D- voice said:
If we show the same attitude and commitment we can only improve !
Overall we are a better team !!!
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You've hit the nail on the head mate.

If we buy in to CC as we did last season, and i see no reason why we won't, we will be pushing for top four.

When we get our defense right on the back of Burton's kicking game, we are very hard to beat.
 
billy beane said:
How can we possibly be weaker this season than last ?? ..... virtually every player in all likelihood is going to improve both within the system and individually.

Burton and Sexton

King and Hughes

Critta and Xerri

Just to name three combinations who i expect to improve ......

Also, the bench is going to be to be way better.

We have lost Fox .... we will miss his speed but will improve significantly in other areas.
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I think it's a gee up personally.

How can anyone truly believe we're weaker than last year? Spot on with what you're saying
 
Tassie Devil said:
I think it's a gee up personally.

How can anyone truly believe we're weaker than last year? Spot on with what you're saying
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might be a few question marks on who replaces ado carr on the wing but we're definitely going to be a lot better next season
 
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