SOS Bellamy

[Scoooby]

You usually are scooob, that's why I love ya

Top man, Back at ya chimp !!

 

[The_Chimpster]

Does he really? Or does training and playing with Slater, Cronk and Smith and being mentored one on one make them look better than they really are? Is it possible that’s why when they leave they often don’t look as good anymore? Conversely Cronk isn’t being coached by Bellamy anymore and he still goes OK.

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Slater is retired and will probably one day become an immortal
Smith is there still and is arguably the best player in the game under bellamy

And that last sentence basically kills your entire argument.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Slater is retired and will probably one day become an immortal

Exactly, and he is one on one mentoring the new guy. ie; Bellamy still needs Slater.

Smith is there still and is arguably the best player in the game under bellamy

Not the question, what is relevant is would he still be as good even without Bellamy. We will never know for sure, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t ask the question.

And that last sentence basically kills your entire argument.

But is Cronk still good because Bellamy trained him, or was he always good and didn’t really need much coaching, which is why he still goes good without Bellamy.

I still firmly believe that people will ask the question, is Bellamy only a good coach when he has future immortals as players? He needs to coach a team without that advantage to prove how good a coach he really is.

Go Dogs

 

[The_Chimpster]

Exactly, and he is one on one mentoring the new guy. ie; Bellamy still needs Slater.

Not the question, what is relevant is would he still be as good even without Bellamy. We will never know for sure, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t ask the question.

But is Cronk still good because Bellamy trained him, or was he always good and didn’t really need much coaching, which is why he still goes good without Bellamy.

I still firmly believe that people will ask the question, is Bellamy only a good coach when he has future immortals as players? He needs to coach a team without that advantage to prove how good a coach he really is.

Go Dogs

Slater is now a media whore like all former player commentators, If he's mentoring someone that doesn't mean squat

You can't fluke that much success being a shit coach, relying on your superstar players to just coach themselves, and still have gems coming through the system.

Cronk benefitted massively from bellamy's coaching, he was struggling when first coming into grade, lacking confidence and questioning his ability, that's the story Peter sterling said on his show anyway, I can't see him making something like that up


Smith will be gone soon, so you'll get your answer after then i guess.

But you seem to be very determined to prove your right, no matter what gets said

I still think he's one of the top two coaches in the game.

We'll leave this discussion at that

Btw, I almost forgot,


MO Flogs

 

[086]

What a stupid comment

Please remind me of his SOO record against Cronk, Smith and Slater?

 

[TwinTurbo]

Slater is now a media whore like all former player commentators, If he's mentoring someone that doesn't mean squat
You can't fluke that much success being a shit coach, relying on your superstar players to just coach themselves, and still have gems coming through the system.
Cronk benefitted massively from bellamy's coaching, he was struggling when first coming into grade, lacking confidence and questioning his ability, that's the story Peter sterling said on his show anyway, I can't see him making something like that up
Smith will be gone soon, so you'll get your answer after then i guess.
But you seem to be very determined to prove your right, no matter what gets said
I still think he's one of the top two coaches in the game.
We'll leave this discussion at that
Btw, I almost forgot,
MO Flogs

Slater does what, 3 maybe 4 hours a week on TV. He was doing some work with an AFL team if I remember rightly plus mentoring whatever his name is. At least he can run fast, I suppose Bellamy taught him that.

How’s the guy who replaced Cronk going, Croft that’s him, is Bellamy’s coaching turning him into a superstar? How’s his struggling going?

You’re half right, Smith will stop playing soon, but he won’t be gone, he’ll be an assistant coach. So will we be able to tell how much is Smith and Slater and how much is Bellamy?

I’m not trying to prove anything, I have questions about just how good Bellamy is. Until he does the same with another team, one without 4 likely immortals and the advantages that Melbourne has, the questions will remain unanswered.

Go Dogs

 

[086]

Cronk and Smith would make an interesting pairing as assistant coaches.
Be nice if we could pull at least one to us.

 

[wendog33]

It's clear teams need specialised positional coaches, especially if guys are newbies. We need to be copying Melbourne or developing our own mentoring and coaching regimes to bring along our promising players. All other teams seem to bring in help. We need to as well eg Slater for Meaney, Johns for our halves. I'd bring in Tank too for the forwards....not enough decoy or lines run. It's essential.

 

[086]

At this stage, I'd be happy if they bought in a clairvoyant to afford the boys 'readings', when all she does, is regurgitate what's said here!

 

[xreedmatic]

Armchair critics questioning one of the best NRL coaches of all time, while holding Dean Pay on a pedestal

 

[Precise]

Wanting Dymock? Thinking Bellamy throws away an empire he built for a bit of extra cash he doesn't need? Why do you think the Pats continue to win with Brady? Because he sacrifices the fuck out of his pay to have superstars around him, winning is more important than money to a few people, usually the champions of any sport. There's some meth head choices being throw around here.

Get Flano in, end of discussion fight tooth and nail to make it happen.

 

[086]

Armchair critics questioning one of the best NRL coaches of all time, while holding Dean Pay on a pedestal

Where?

 

[TwinTurbo]

Armchair critics questioning one of the best NRL coaches of all time, while holding Dean Pay on a pedestal

Where?

Who?

Go Dogs

 

[TwinTurbo]

Wanting Dymock? Thinking Bellamy throws away an empire he built for a bit of extra cash he doesn't need? Why do you think the Pats continue to win with Brady? Because he sacrifices the fuck out of his pay to have superstars around him, winning is more important than money to a few people, usually the champions of any sport.

Seriously, are you comparing Bellamy with Tom Brady, at last count he is worth $180 million and his wife Gisele Bundchen is worth $400 million (BTW that's US $'s). I'm sure Bellamy isn't in the poor house, but in the same sentence as the Bradys, not even on the same planet. It's easy to give up $1m when you have $600m, but not so easy when you have, what, a hundredth of that.

There's some meth head choices being throw around here.

Can't disagree with that.

Get Flano in, end of discussion fight tooth and nail to make it happen.

Unfortunately it's just not the easy to convince the NRL to overturn an indefinite ban. More chance for 2021 than 2020 would be my guess, and even then 2021 might be a stretch.

Go Dogs

 

[Straight18]

Does he really? Or does training and playing with Slater, Cronk and Smith and being mentored one on one make them look better than they really are? Is it possible that’s why when they leave they often don’t look as good anymore? Conversely Cronk isn’t being coached by Bellamy anymore and he still goes OK.

Go Dogs

What the fuck are u talking about. He only has one old scrooge left who does not even run from dummy half anymore and they are 6 points clear on top of ladder.
Bellamy looked back at u the way he did cause he was probably thinking whats this fuckwit talking about.
For the next 6 years it will be because they have munster. No its not bellamy.
U have issues with bellamy because he made u look stupid.
I see the real issue here.

 

[TwinTurbo]

What the fuck are u talking about. He only has one old scrooge left who does not even run from dummy half anymore and they are 6 points clear on top of ladder.
Bellamy looked back at u the way he did cause he was probably thinking whats this fuckwit talking about.
For the next 6 years it will be because they have munster. No its not bellamy.

If you can't see the difference between Munster and the 4 future (most likely) immortals in Slater, Cronk, Smith and Inglis then I really can't help you.

U have issues with bellamy because he made u look stupid. I see the real issue here.

You weren't there, if you were you would have heard the conversation leading up to it and subsequent, we were all taking the piss out of each other. But hey, you go ahead and believe whatever you want to believe.


Go Dogs

 

[Doomsdaydog]

If you can't see the difference between Munster and the 4 future (most likely) immortals in Slater, Cronk, Smith and Inglis then I really can't help you.


You weren't there, if you were you would have heard the conversation leading up to it and subsequent, we were all taking the piss out of each other. But hey, you go ahead and believe whatever you want to believe.


Go Dogs

You are a first class bellend

 

[TwinTurbo]

You are a first class bellend

I see your problem, you can't enunciate your side of the debate so you resort to ad hominem argumentum.

Go Dogs

 

[Doomsdaydog]

I see your problem, you can't enunciate your side of the debate so you resort to ad hominem argumentum.

Go Dogs

Debate with someone who is always right in their own mind?

Donald Trump has nothing over you

 

[TwinTurbo]

Debate with someone who is always right in their own mind?

Strangely, I seem to having the same problem.

Donald Trump has nothing over you

Thank you for the compliment.

Go Dogs