Some good signs - stats from NRL.com

[fr333k]

After 3 rounds.. if only we can keep this going and work on the defense.

 

[vegny]

Saw this yesterday. Not sure what to make of them. Are we better than what most ppl give us credit for? Or some stats, like line engaged and decoy run, are irrelevant.

 

[Mr Invisible]

Interesting .... I mean I know Mbye is going really well out the back, but didn't realise he was stat leading in a few key areas.

Likewise Klemmer.

Line engaged is an interesting one, how would they even count that? Likewise decoy run.

 

[Brizdog]

Most Decoy runs that's really important lol

 

[fr333k]

Most Decoy runs that's really important lol

i didnt highlight it but Woods is also in the list of decoy runners on 29

 

[Spoonman84]

Most Decoy runs that's really important lol

It’s not a vital stat but it does show that the pack is working together and not going one out on hit ups.

 

[obje]

Foran is a soldier. It's like he doesn't care about taking it to the line because all he's worried about is his hammie.

 

[Brizdog]

It’s not a vital stat but it does show that the pack is working together and not going one out on hit ups.

I do agree with you. Just thought it was funny to Tolman lead a less important stat.

 

[CrittaMagic69]

It’s not a vital stat but it does show that the pack is working together and not going one out on hit ups.

We're only really run them on attacking plays though, most other times we're just going one out and are easy targets for the defence.

 

[CrittaMagic69]

Interesting .... I mean I know Mbye is going really well out the back, but didn't realise he was stat leading in a few key areas.

Likewise Klemmer.

Line engaged is an interesting one, how would they even count that? Likewise decoy run.

Klemmer always has high post contact metres, they're just not very valuable these days. Defence just holds him up and eventually rolls him over for a slow play the ball.

 

[haz123]

Klemmer always has high post contact metres, they're just not very valuable these days. Defence just holds him up and eventually rolls him over for a slow play the ball.

I do agree a little,but the up side is it usually takes 3 or 4 to slow him and get him down.

 

[CrittaMagic69]

I do agree a little,but the up side is it usually takes 3 or 4 to slow him and get him down.

Yh but the defensive line is usually set and the markers are in position by the time he plays the ball. He needs to learn how to bump off defenders and find his front instead of just struggling in the tackle.

 

[haz123]

Yh but the defensive line is usually set and the markers are in position by the time he plays the ball. He needs to learn how to bump off defenders and find his front instead of just struggling in the tackle.

True that i think part of the problem is he thinks he is the "enforcer" and needs to be a battering ram which he does well enough but he needs to develope his game which he hopefully will with time, He is still relatively young for a top class prop.

 

[CrittaMagic69]

True that i think part of the problem is he thinks he is the "enforcer" and needs to be a battering ram which he does well enough but he needs to develope his game which he hopefully will with time, He is still relatively young for a top class prop.

His game has regressed imo. I have seen him play since we were kids and he used to do be able to do everything coming through the grades. He could bump off defenders, he could offload, he could charge right over the top of someone, etc. I know it was much easier back then compared to the NRL but his game just looks different. The way he carries the ball, the way he enters the contact, his mindset, etc. Like you said it's like he's just the battering ram and is focused on just running into the meat of defence and just carrying defenders as far as he can.

 

[haz123]

His game has regressed imo. I have seen him play since we were kids and he used to do be able to do everything coming through the grades. He could bump off defenders, he could offload, he could charge right over the top of someone, etc. I know it was much easier back then compared to the NRL but his game just looks different. The way he carries the ball, the way he enters the contact, his mindset, etc. Like you said it's like he's just the battering ram and is focused on just running into the meat of defence and just carrying defenders as far as he can.

Blame DES and the media . If you keep telling a Porche it is a tank eventually it wants to act like a tank. The saving grace is he has the ability just needs pionting in the right direction and i think Pay can do that.

 

[Bluebody]

very good early signs. 2 in the top with decoy runs is not to be scoffed at - shows hard work and commitment to keep the defense 2 minds. It helps Foran too. Mbye is going to kill it this year - fingers crossed he stays injury free.

 

[Haddaway]

Interesting .... I mean I know Mbye is going really well out the back, but didn't realise he was stat leading in a few key areas.

Likewise Klemmer.

Line engaged is an interesting one, how would they even count that? Likewise decoy run.

Probably how close to the line he gets before he passes. Foran,at times, passes basically when the player is about to smash him. Hearty as fuck.

If you still have it recorded go back and watch out first set in the Panthers half. He takes the ball to the line and passes to Klemmer, while he gets HAMMERED. He bounces up and is on the left side the very next play.

 

[Mr Invisible]

Probably how close to the line he gets before he passes. Foran,at times, passes basically when the player is about to smash him. Hearty as fuck.

If you still have it recorded go back and watch out first set in the Panthers half. He takes the ball to the line and passes to Klemmer, while he gets HAMMERED. He bounces up and is on the left side the very next play.

Even JMK looks good taking it to the line ... and doesn't care about getting smashed.

If JMK can learn that craft off Foran and also fine tune it we'll have strike power both sides of the field. Our centres / second rowers need to engage that sort of play when either decides to run to the line or slide.

 

[Hacky McAxe]

Aiden Tolman. The guy no one wants to pass the ball to.

 

[Boxer]

All tolmans decoy runs are on the 4th very sneaky lol.