soccers plan to displace the nrl.

[wogdog]

What the nrl & afl dont understand is that if they stand in opposition to the world cup bid they will not only create a bad name for those people they are trying to convert to the sports but also those people that support rugby league,afl & soccer all together. All this bull**** by demetriou that afl clubs will go broke is crap cause if they are planning there finances on the availability of the mcg or ettihad stadium then that in itself is NOT good business.

 

[Shanked]

if they were promised some sort of cut or compensation i'm sure they'd be singing a different tune. but as ben said if they stand to lose money why support it?

 

[Doga]

Stadium plans to seal the deal

Exclusive by Dean Ritchie and Phil Rothfield From: The Daily Telegraph December 10, 2009 12:00AM 38 comments

THEY are the stadium developments that will make Sydney the envy of the sporting world and transform the city into a rugby league lovers' paradise.

Proposals for a radical redesign of ANZ Stadium - complete with transparent roof - and the construction of a brand new, 40,000-seat rugby league ground in the heart of Sydney's southwest could be the pay-off for supporting Australia's bid for the football World Cup.

In what would be soccer's greatest gift to rugby league, The Daily Telegraph can reveal that Campbelltown is favourite to become the fourth NSW venue to host World Cup matches if Australia's bid is successful for 2018 or 2022.

The new stadium would be built on the existing site of Campbelltown Stadium, just off the M5 and would provide a state-of-the-art home ground for the Wests Tigers.

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It would seat 40,000 fans and the technology and comfort would be a world away from the conditions available to players and supporters at the current ground.

The Campbelltown proposal would go hand-in-hand with the redevelopment of ANZ Stadium, which is being earmarked as the jewel in the crown for Australia's World Cup bid.

A $150 million upgrade of the Homebush arena would see it transformed into a rectangular venue with retractable seating at each end of the field, bringing fans to within five metres of the action and increasing capacity to 90,000.

But the most spectacular alteration would be the addition of a huge transparent roof over the vast expanse of the arena, protecting fans from the elements but still allowing sunlight to bathe the field and stands.

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While Campbelltown is presently the favoured location for the new stadium, Football Federation Australia and Events NSW are yet to determine exactly where the venue will be.

Blacktown is also being considered as a proposed site, as are Gosford and Wollongong.

The stadium would become the state's fourth World Cup arena venue, along with ANZ Stadium, the SFS and Newcastle's EnergyAustralia Stadium.

The development would provide NSW with four venues for rugby league capable of holding at least 40,000 fans and re-enforce the state's reputation as the true home of the code.

Adding to the delight of NRL fans is the fact that Greater Western Sydney - the new AFL franchise keen to get a foothold in Sydney's league heartland - is unlikely to consider playing at the new stadium because it will be designed as a rectangular arena.

At present, Campbelltown Stadium is run down and the existing grandstand is in desperate need of repair. The dressingrooms and press facilities are simply not up to modern-day standards.

A new stadium would allow the Tigers to play out of Campbelltown for decades to come.

The move also shows FFA is prepared to work with the NRL and that rugby league will not sabotage soccer's bid.

FFA CEO Ben Buckley and NRL chief executive David Gallop are due to meet tomorrow.

One well-placed source said: "You will find the stadium will be built in Campbelltown. There was some talk of Blacktown but Campbelltown is favourite."

Tigers director Ben Elias said footy fans in southwest Sydney have patiently waited for such a world-class development.

"The people of western Sydney deserve it," Elias said. "Right in the middle of Tiger territory - it would be fantastic. Western Sydney is where the people are.

"It would make a great home ground at Campbelltown for the Tigers, too. It will give us a home ground out there for years to come. I'm sure the NRL will be more accommodating to the World Cup bid than the AFL."

Last night, Gallop said he was unaware of any stadium plans for western Sydney. While Penrith chief executive Mick Leary said he hoped the new stadium would be built at nearby Blacktown - a Panthers junior league area - he stressed the club would remain at CUA Stadium.

"We would all love a new stadium but having said that, it is another thing to fill it," Leary said.

"But we wouldn't move from CUA. I would be loath to do that."

The ARU said last night it would consider playing Test matches in western Sydney - although the internationals would be against the world's second-tier nations such as Fiji, Scotland and Italy.

"We are always reviewing our Test matches and venue options," an ARU spokesman said.

"A world-class stadium in Sydney's west would come under consideration.

"Anything is possible."

 

[Doga]

Aussie Cup pledge packaged and on its way

Tom Smithies From: The Daily Telegraph December 10, 2009 12:48AM

A COURIER was last night in transit to Switzerland with the vital document that underwrites Australia's World Cup bid - and leaves AFL boss Andrew Demetriou isolated as its only major opponent.

Backed by a signed pledge from Kevin Rudd and the state premiers, the bid guarantee contract is en route to FIFA boss Sepp Blatter and provides a legal pledge that Australia's bid will meet all of FIFA's demands.

Despite Demetriou's posturing , Rudd and the state governments have effectively pledged it will go on with or without the co-operation of the AFL, and the use of Melbourne's Etihad Stadium. The Daily Telegraph has learnt that the SCG is a fall-back option if Demetriou succeeds in scrubbing Etihad from the list of 12 stadiums, with Aurora Stadium in Tasmania also under consideration.

Plans to radically alter ANZ Stadium, and the siting of the final bid stadium at Campbelltown, are likely to win over much of the NRL resistance to the bid.

Though it has long been assumed that FIFA would demand 12 stadiums, limited to two per city, Football Federation Australia believe an option is to essentially offer 11, with the SCG and SFS forming a "super precinct".



It means NSW will be the linchpin of the bid, even if the SCG was ultimately not used.

ANZ, the SFS, EnergyAustralia Stadium and the new western Sydney venue are definite bid starters, with Canberra also in line for a brand new stadium just three hours drive away.

It has also emerged that both the AFL and NRL would be in line for substantial compensation for the losses they would sustain during a World Cup held here, with a contingency sum of $10 million built into the FFA's plans to the Federal Government.

 

[GATE7]

$10 million compensation is loose change for FIFA. I hope Gallop doesnt shoot himself in the foot and toes the line otherwise league will also be left out in the cold like the AFL and will miss out .

The state of origin series every year is does more of a disservice to Rubgy League clubs by the loss of players, gate revenue and competition points ye they have learnt to live with it.

The Soccer world Cup is big business, billions of dollars are turned over.

Im curious to see where the new stadium out west will be built. Ofcourse the main decision will be made by the FFA where they want the new western Sydney soccer team to be playing out of but there will be a few league chairmen from out west who will be lobbying Ben Buckley .

What the article's dont say however is that FIFA not only demands 12 world class stadiums but also numerous world cup training venues which in past world cups have seen smaller club teams stadiums improved to accommodate this demand.

If we do get the World Cup its 95% certain the final will be played at Sydney.

 

[rocky IV]

The state of origin series every year is does more of a disservice to Rubgy League clubs by the loss of players, gate revenue and competition points ye they have learnt to live with it.

lol.

you are an idiot

 

[simmmo]

if it isn't already obvious to all: Josh Massoud is the worst sports writer in Australia and possibly the world (if it is really him who is writing!!!).

 

[simmmo]

some sobering facts for rugby leage (and afl for that matter). A-League clubs will soon have their coffers brimming over with cold hard cash from selling local players to european clubs. this will lead to salaries of A-league players dwarfing that of rugby leage and afl. this will lead to youngsters all over the country aspiring to play soccer instead of nrl or afl because of the huge amount of coin they will earn and the possiblility of playing in a top european league as well as playing in the world cup.

Soccer is a massive threat to league and to afl

 

[Shanked]

all the good players are already overseas to dev 1/2 clubs and has done nothing. if they do sell it's not for excessive money

 

[Hog]

why would FIFA want a WC here? we're in a sh1t timezone for Europe and the Americas.

 

[Costaki10]

some sobering facts for rugby leage (and afl for that matter). A-League clubs will soon have their coffers brimming over with cold hard cash from selling local players to european clubs. this will lead to salaries of A-league players dwarfing that of rugby leage and afl. this will lead to youngsters all over the country aspiring to play soccer instead of nrl or afl because of the huge amount of coin they will earn and the possiblility of playing in a top european league as well as playing in the world cup.

Soccer is a massive threat to league and to afl

all the good players here are picked up before the a -league even have the chance to sign them

 

[GATE7]

all the good players are already overseas to dev 1/2 clubs and has done nothing. if they do sell it's not for excessive money

FIFA and UEFA for that matter will be changing the rules in the not too distant future regarding the poaching of underage players from other countries ( non nationals)
They will be implementing some new rules that will require all european soccer clubs to have a minimum quota of local junior players in their roster that have come up from the junior teams on to the senior teams. Uefa which is the governing body of european soccer is also looking at implementing a limit on the amount of foreign players.
Young underage players ( under 18 ) being poached by player managers and overseas clubs will be be eradicated slowly under new rules and will be a thing of the past.
And the FFA has already passed new rules that will allow for them to be compensated financially from player managers and any clubs that poach or purchase any Australian players that have come through the Australian soccer system ( including the AIS).

Soccer transfers are big bucks , even when smaller teams are buying and selling players. Simmmo is right what he says about the potential financial clout of soccer in this country through transfers.

If we get the world cup the FFA will be flushed with heaps of cash and will be in a position to challenge all other codes.

Lowy is already thinking about a 2nd divison a league comp witah promotion and relegation system.

 

[Hog]

Why the fck should they get money for AIS players?

 

[GATE7]

Why the fck should they get money for AIS players?

Rules were changed to prevent players from the AIS going on to play for foreign countries like Simunic and Seric did. They came through the Oz soccer system and through the taxpayer funded AIS and yet decided to play for the Croatian team without any recourse for the AIS and FFA or Australian soccer.
New rules are now in place which are recognised by FIFA ins that the AIS will be compensated financially if such a thing were to happen again and so will the FFA. I think the players are now asked to signed an agreement .

Just a figure I read on the transfer amount of soccer player transfers in the Premier league for season 08/09 ( players purchased by Premier league clubs). The total transfer amount for that season was over $500 million dollars !!!!!! the transfers of Berbatov and Robinio alone totalled $80 million.

And this amount is only for the premier league only . Doesnt include all other european comps, or South America, or Asia or Africa.

Soccer is a billion dollar sport, year in year out without fail . Add to this the huge sponsorship deals, the TV rights distribution (millions), merchandising revenue and gate sales and one realises why its in a strong financial position.

Personally I dont agree with these huge amounts of money being splashed around. No player is worth that much. But itswhat they can make you off the field that has led to these ridiculously inflated prices

Real Madrid bought David Beckham merely for marketing , they paid Millions for him but they reaped much much more than what they outlayed in merchandising sales especially is Asia.

 

[Jigga]

why would FIFA want a WC here? we're in a sh1t timezone for Europe and the Americas.

and that is exactly why it will not happen, but if it does the NRL should go along with it as it stands to gain a lot out of it

 

[Hog]

Rules were changed to prevent players from the AIS going on to play for foreign countries like Simunic and Seric did. They came through the Oz soccer system and through the taxpayer funded AIS and yet decided to play for the Croatian team without any recourse for the AIS and FFA or Australian soccer.
New rules are now in place which are recognised by FIFA ins that the AIS will be compensated financially if such a thing were to happen again and so will the FFA. I think the players are now asked to signed an agreement .

Just a figure I read on the transfer amount of soccer player transfers in the Premier league for season 08/09 ( players purchased by Premier league clubs). The total transfer amount for that season was over $500 million dollars !!!!!! the transfers of Berbatov and Robinio alone totalled $80 million.

And this amount is only for the premier league only . Doesnt include all other european comps, or South America, or Asia or Africa.

Soccer is a billion dollar sport, year in year out without fail . Add to this the huge sponsorship deals, the TV rights distribution (millions), merchandising revenue and gate sales and one realises why its in a strong financial position.

Personally I dont agree with these huge amounts of money being splashed around. No player is worth that much. But itswhat they can make you off the field that has led to these ridiculously inflated prices

Real Madrid bought David Beckham merely for marketing , they paid Millions for him but they reaped much much more than what they outlayed in merchandising sales especially is Asia.

yeah but why should FFA get money from AIS players? does the FFA put them through? I thought the Australian taxpayer covered the AIS?

 

[GATE7]

FIFA wants a World Cup in Australia for that reason...the timezone is perfect for them .
The majority of the billions of viewers who watch the world cup come from the populated Asian region.

Australia is a perfect world cup host for the billions of Asian viewers.

 

[GATE7]

yeah but why should FFA get money from AIS players? does the FFA put them through? I thought the Australian taxpayer covered the AIS?

Im not sure how that works, maybe because the AIS select players from the lower soccer leagues and football academys.
Theyre supposed to be the "elite" players.

But im certain there are now measures in place to prevent what happened in the past where AIS players went on to play for otther countries.

 

[Hog]

FIFA wants a World Cup in Australia for that reason...the timezone is perfect for them .
The majority of the billions of viewers who watch the world cup come from the populated Asian region.

Australia is a perfect world cup host for the billions of Asian viewers.

ok then.

 

[polecat]

LMAO @ simmo, what good A league players?

my dog will walk on the moon before soccer is the
number one football code in this country