Signing and transfer periods?

[GrogDog]

The crap floating around right now about signing players etc is counter-productive to the game. The NRL need to finally get in and announce a transfer window and player signings need to be moved until after the GF each year. Who's actually talking about the games at the moment? Transfer window June 1 to June 30 and all other signings after the footy year is complete. I miss the days when you got a jersey and put the number or name on the back of your favorite player, mercenaries!

 

[CMP]

I am all for a transfer window! Should be Mid October- Mid November though not during the season.

 

[DoggiesBoy]

yeah agree the whole signing thing is a huge unwanted distraction. With the mercenaries thing, tbh the clubs are just as guilty, they have no problems pushing players out the door.

 

[GrogDog]

yeah agree the whole signing thing is a huge unwanted distraction. With the mercenaries thing, tbh the clubs are just as guilty, they have no problems pushing players out the door.

Yeah totally two way that's for sure. Have a look at the threads on the kennel, top 15 would be who can we sign? Change from sack Des but what about the footy lol

 

[Menteek]

If they did that then the whole league media world would shut down due to no news to shit talk about till each transfer season

 

[Oatley Dog]

It's never going to happen. There was a time when players couldn't be signed until the off season and the teams and managers worked around it by not registering the contracts until they were allowed. Problem was everyone knew who had been signed to go where and it created huge PR issues with fans who thought all their stars were locked up and all of a sudden the day after the GF they found out their team was decimated for the next year. We have the system we have because there is no draft - no other reason. Players can only negotiate in their final year (yeah right) and it is all supposedly open and above board. So now all the fans do is whinge that this player or that is going to or from their club 12 months out and it destabilises the team. The truth is the teams don't really care they know that this year it is one of their mates that is affected and the next it is themself. The world has moved on from locals playing in their local team. It is all about the roster and the cap and it is constantly moving. We've had a transfer window of sorts for years. Players and free to move between clubs up until June 30 every year with the agreement of both clubs, but it is rarely used because of the impact on the cap and player availability with injuries etc.

 

[GrogDog]

If they did that then the whole league media world would shut down due to no news to shit talk about till each transfer season

They could get back to trying to destroy us

 

[_G-Dog_]

The media outlets love the current system.. speculation rumours all year round

 

[boggie23]

The way the league is structured there can't be transfer windows. It works in NBA and soccer because when you trade a player you get something in exchange. In league it won't work because only 1 team benefits from signings. So it won't work having it during the season.

The pre-season starts in November. You need to have your roster finalised then to start training. So it's too messy to compress all the signings into 1 month. Lots of players would be left unsigned. There is no security. And imagine having to go from North Queensland to New Zealand in a matter of days.

The other thing is a trade or draft. Reason that won't work is because the junior leagues are funded by the clubs. So again it's counter intuitive to put hundreds of thousands of dollars into developing juniors and when they turn 17 any team can pick them up from the draft. Teams will stop funding their junior leagues and I doubt the nrl would pick up running the game from grass roots to the top.

There have been anti tampering deadlines and what not. But the way it is now is more or less the best way for the players. They have plenty of chance to find a club and plan their next move. And if they can't find a club in Australia it gives them a chance to look at other sports, leagues and countries.

 

[CMP]

The way the league is structured there can't be transfer windows. It works in NBA and soccer because when you trade a player you get something in exchange. In league it won't work because only 1 team benefits from signings. So it won't work having it during the season.

The NRL should look at the Purchase and Trade of players, Like basically every other professional sport in the world.
If teams bought players from another club on 5 year deals similar to football (soccer) and could sell or loan to other clubs.
This looks after the players future whilst also giving the clubs more confidence to invest in players. The loan system is also great for clubs that are struggling.
The salary Cap is the thing that prohibits this system. But as we can see with the Roosters going hard at Tedesco that the cap is a joke anyway.

 

[Oatley Dog]

The NRL should look at the Purchase and Trade of players, Like basically every other professional sport in the world.
If teams bought players from another club on 5 year deals similar to football (soccer) and could sell or loan to other clubs.
This looks after the players future whilst also giving the clubs more confidence to invest in players. The loan system is also great for clubs that are struggling.
The salary Cap is the thing that prohibits this system. But as we can see with the Roosters going hard at Tedesco that the cap is a joke anyway.

The purchase and trade system can only work where you don't have other restrictions. The EPL have gone broke using it because they don't have a cap. There is nothing to stop a club moving a player on to another club and the receiving club paying their salary before 30 June every year. It does in fact happen occasionally. Look at Hurrell last year for an example. The problem is because of the cap nearly every club is at their maximum allowance all the time and so unless its a player swap of similar value the clubs can't factor it into their cap and stay under. What we really need is a draft.

 

[GrogDog]

Just spit balling but would a system where the NRL stops paying them a grant and starts paying every players base salary work? So every non-rep top 30 player at each club gets a base salary of say 200k and then the NRL are also responsible for rep player payments (whatever that could be). Perhaps a rookie and a senior tier in that, 1-5 year player gets the 200k and senior gets 400k. From their the club/players are allowed to top up the players income with sponsorship money? Figures are just an example but I'm all for a system that takes out the need to cheat and allows the players to get whatever they can. Stop everyone talking about the money side of things.

 

[Izzy Forreal]

The crap floating around right now about signing players etc is counter-productive to the game. The NRL need to finally get in and announce a transfer window and player signings need to be moved until after the GF each year. Who's actually talking about the games at the moment? Transfer window June 1 to June 30 and all other signings after the footy year is complete. I miss the days when you got a jersey and put the number or name on the back of your favorite player, mercenaries!

You're being a bit radical here GrogDog. But getting the fans to watch football, and talk about the players playing football during the football season just might work. Then of course the "silly season" would regain its own status to help us through the months of cricket.

 

[Oatley Dog]

Grog Dog - In a round about sort of way that's how the cap is constructed now. They have minimum wage requirements and assessed cap value for every player so even if you get someone to stump up $1m for say Teddy, your cap is still assessed as him getting say $500k based on his status. Then there are discounts for 10 service and the like. When they say the cap is going up from X to Z that's the short version of the calculations on a per player basis. It's not just a lump of money the clubs have to spend. They will have to in the new agreement include car payments and all sorts of things including a top 30 instead of a top 25, so the increase is not just an extra $1.5m or whatever to spend on another player. In reality the clubs will only have a few hundred grand to play with after they factor in all the other requirements. That's why talk of getting 3-4 big names can't happen for us unless we offload 3-4 big names we currently have.

 

[Klemhammer]

Just copy and paste NBA free agent policy and trade polices

 

[Oatley Dog]

Just copy and paste NBA free agent policy and trade polices

It doesn't matter if we still have a cap. A free agent policy can't work. No-one has the cash to buy anyone.