Rule changes turning NRL into touch footy: Fifita

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Cronulla star Andrew Fifita has called for the shoulder charge to be reintroduced into the NRL, claiming recent rule changes around player safety were turning rugby league into "touch footy".
Fifita remains sidelined over the weekend while serving a two-match ban for a shoulder charge on Gold Coast winger David Mead in their opening round loss. The NRL's hardline stance on the shoulder charge is part of a raft of sweeping changes introduced with player welfare in mind. Others include outlawing of the "cannonball" tackle and new concussion protocols.
The NSW and Australian prop isn't the only big name sidelined. Sonny Bill Williams is also serving time for a shoulder charge, prompting a Twitter exchange in which Fifita wrote: "@SonnyBWilliams it’s ok bra I know how you feel. I fought NRL was a contact sport.


Fifita stood by those sentiments, believing he shouldn't have been suspended for what he described as a "love tap".
"Footy is changing, it's happening in AFL games too. It's just going to be touch footy soon," Fifita said.
"Give us 10 years and we'll be playing touch footy. Or it will be like Oz Tag for you.
"I think some of the rule changes will be bad for us.


"I had a five foot eight or nine [172cm-175cm] person running into me and I'm six four [193cm]. Me being a bit tired at the end of the game I'm going to have to watch it. The little guys are going to be running at my shoulders.You look at the video, a lot of guys are shoulder height to me anyway.
"It is stuffing with the game, this whole new tackling rule and this whole stopping the game rule. I think they should bring back the shoulder charge and if you hit the head, cop the flak.
"If it's fair, that's just football. That's the game we actually grew up with."
Fifita's absence gave his brother, David, the chance to make his NRL debut against Canterbury. Andrew said the moment was a proud one for the family but spoke of his disappointment at not being able to share it on the field.


"It's been stressful knowing I should have been playing," he said.
"One little silly love tap got me in strife. At the end of the day I've got to serve my punishment and I can't wait for next weekend.
"I got to present his jersey to him and it's one of the best things. Saying goodbye to him, I thought I was going to cry. I would love to have been there for his debut with him, it's what he was waiting for as well.


"But he made his debut and showed the club he can handle NRL level. I think he's put his name on the map. But the day I debut with him, that's gonna hit my heart."
David is off contract at the end of the season and hoping to press his claims for an extension. Andrew, who became the highest-paid prop in history after signing with Canterbury, joked "they can sign him too". But Andrew insisted the lesser-known Fifita had a place in the NRL, hopefully with the Sharks.
"I was given the opportunity and look where I am now," he said.


"If he gets some more games in he can be an Origin player, and Australian player, whatever he wants to be. I know he can do it.
"You can see what the Sharks did for me and I think they can do the same with David. He just needs to learn the game a bit and he'll be the same place I'm in in three years time."
Fifita's Canterbury contract could make him a target for opposition forwards, but the Griffith product is taking it all in his stride.
"Hopefully I end up having a good season so I can finish on a high," he said.


"I really want to go out with a bang and I'll try my hardest to do that. For the last week and a half I've been training my arse off to be fitter and bigger and stronger.
"If I go out and play my own game and have fun, I'll do the job I did with the Sharks. It will be the same thing I did in 2014 as what I did in 2013."
 

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I know he is a shark this year but he is a dog next so I thought I'd post it here
 

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Read first paragraph and tuned out sorry. For me anything that gets rid of the wrestling is a massive thankyou for fans IMO. If anything I disagree with Fafita and haven't noticed the game going near touch footy at all. Sure its faster, no doubt but its more like old school footy where there was some ownership on your defence and tackling technique as previously all you had to do was slow them down until the 4 other grubbs got there and dry rooted them for half an hour!
 

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The ol' big hit though is missing.

Being able to line up a bloke and BOOM massive hit, used to fire your own side up, and send the opposing side into two minds about running in your direction.

Its such a fine line now, you have blokes sitting out for bumping up off the ball, meanwhile you have guys speartackling a player (Graham) without the ball, who dont even get on report.
 

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The ol' big hit though is missing.

Being able to line up a bloke and BOOM massive hit, used to fire your own side up, and send the opposing side into two minds about running in your direction.

Its such a fine line now, you have blokes sitting out for bumping up off the ball, meanwhile you have guys speartackling a player (Graham) without the ball, who dont even get on report.
Sick of Graham getting targeted by so many foul things, he barely reacts but this time he didn't like it at all. We should put in a complain of him coping alot foul shit in games for some reason.
 

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seems like we've had more head high tackles made by forwards since the shoulder charge has been gone.
 

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didnt read article but the 7 tackle rule when the ball goes dead is complete bullshit. when we dropped it over the line trying to go for a try they get already get a 20 metre advantage but then they get an extra ****ing tackle. **** what spastic made this rule up. fair enough if it goes dead off a kick to keep the ball in play but they HAVE to change this rule.
 

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I agree with fifita regarding the shoulder charge. Bring it back and if you hit the head you will be sitting on the sidelines.

The fighting rule is a disappointment also. I'm sick of seeing players run in and just grab jerseys and mouth off at the opposition.
 

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didnt read article but the 7 tackle rule when the ball goes dead is complete bullshit. when we dropped it over the line trying to go for a try they get already get a 20 metre advantage but then they get an extra ****ing tackle. **** what spastic made this rule up. fair enough if it goes dead off a kick to keep the ball in play but they HAVE to change this rule.
I agree. If you kick from your own half and it goes dead it should be zero tackle. You shouldn't be punished for trying to stop the ball in goals when you're attacking.
 

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Bring back the shoulder charge. Just make sure you don't contact the head.

These hits are game changers!

[video=youtube;2ILh-w5LPYo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ILh-w5LPYo[/video]

Mods. I have started the exact same thread. Delete it please!
 

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Yep bring back the shoulder charge. I still don't understand why it was banned. If you make contact with the head treat it how they treat a swinging arm to the head, it's no bloody different. I don't like this stupid 7 tackle crap when the ball goes dead but i do agree with the no third man below the knees rule.
 

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Yep bring back the shoulder charge. I still don't understand why it was banned. If you make contact with the head treat it how they treat a swinging arm to the head, it's no bloody different. I don't like this stupid 7 tackle crap when the ball goes dead but i do agree with the no third man below the knees rule.
What happened to Simon Dwyer? Has he recovered?
 

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Think he retired? Medically unfit to return. Pretty bad arm /shoulder nerve damage that never fully recovered from.
 

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Furthermore they should allow the full back to shoulder charge so he can deny a player scoring a try!
 

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Think he retired? Medically unfit to return. Pretty bad arm /shoulder nerve damage that never fully recovered from.
I remember he tackled one of our forwards & hit him in the hip area. Our player (who ever it was) was fine by Simon was gone.

One tackle & your NRL career is all over. Unbelievable!
 

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Anyone who plays rugby league would agree that it is not a soft game. I play the game and I've been shoulder charged before and it hurts if they get you in a sweet spot. I disagree with answer thinking it turns the game into touch. You use you're shoulder everytime you tackle an opponent only for not all you're weight going onto one shoulder.

But the NRL has done the right thing by everyone in making the shoulder charge illegal. Safety comes first over eveything, if parents see players being injured from the shoulder then they won't let kids play it. Since kids are the next generation of players we want them to continue the growth of the game.
 

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Anyone who plays rugby league would agree that it is not a soft game. I play the game and I've been shoulder charged before and it hurts if they get you in a sweet spot. I disagree with answer thinking it turns the game into touch. You use you're shoulder everytime you tackle an opponent only for not all you're weight going onto one shoulder.

But the NRL has done the right thing by everyone in making the shoulder charge illegal. Safety comes first over eveything, if parents see players being injured from the shoulder then they won't let kids play it. Since kids are the next generation of players we want them to continue the growth of the game.
I understand your above points but if, if, if Sandow was playing first grade & he shoulder charged say Frank the Tank, the NRL would still allow it?

It appears to me that they award penalties upon damage done & not the tackling technique.
 

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I understand your above points but if, if, if Sandow was playing first grade & he shoulder charged say Frank the Tank, the NRL would still allow it?

It appears to me that they award penalties upon damage done & not the tackling technique.
Point taken.......seeing this happen more often now
 

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I understand that the NRL has an obligation to player safety but surely they will not rule out tackles like this in the future.

[video=youtube;BG5Rx1GIc1M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG5Rx1GIc1M[/video]
 
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