Regarding Josh Addo Carr

[CrittaMagic69]

let me guess we're going to lose because of salmon?

Correct

 

[Bob dog]

Thanks a lot ya fucken idiot, worse than me.
This week is the biggest game in years.

 

[Harry Oz]

let me guess we're going to lose because of salmon?

If we lose it will be because Gus didn't buy enough utilities.
As Peter Moore used to say "when you think you've got too many utilities, buy two more".

 

[InGusWeTrust]

Can't debate with someone who essentially is saying the exact same thing.

I was clarifying that Josh did not admit guilt by not playing as some say and that it was primarily Gus who encouraged Fox to make that decision.

Gus, Adam and the Board liased, presented the 2 alternatives to Josh of where this could go. Decided we can't legally stand him down bc of player contract terms or he needed to stand down.

Josh chose to stand down under Gus' guidance and that is the info presented to the public and what we need to accept. People saying he is guilty bc he decided not to play are off the mark. Our club felt it was best he stand down so they presented the 2 alternatives and Josh agreed that was best bc they all knew what the media frenzy would be like for the rest of the guys.

At all times Gus and the Club had control of what the playing outcome was for Josh. If they wanted him to play. He would be. They didn't think it was appropriate bc they wanted to put the teams preparation for this finals game above any other considerations...at this time till further details or the sample comes back.

Can only assume you've gone off on some tangent but let's get back to the actual game discussions

The discordance between our viewpoints seems to be you being steadfast in your belief that it was the club and not Josh that stood him down. I won’t go on and on about it, but will just ask this… don’t you think that the club would acquiesce to Josh’s request to be stood down? Sure it’s their decision, but just like if a player didn’t want to play for some reason, they would acquiesce. It’s not a dictatorship, everyone has a choice. That’s my whole point. You can believe, imagine or assume whatever you want, but my point is, that’s what Gus said, so that’s what I will believe, as I have no reason not to and it sounds perfectly logical to me.

Keep in mind that Josh is apparently going through the loss of two people close to him, so even though he’d obviously want to play in the club’s first final since he has worn the emblem, he’d also be feeling loss, grief and now stress from this police matter, so getting away for a week will do him good. This is why I can easily believe he made the call and the club simply agreed. As if they’d say “no you’re playing”.

 

[Moey91]

Na we're still losing, just not because of no Fox.

Thats the spirit

 

[InGusWeTrust]

Coke would be considered a performance enhancer.
Trouble is in a game of RL you would have to have about 10 hits a game seeing how short lived the pump and high is.
If the NRL was fair dinkum they would test the ' water ' bottles of trainers.
Ive seen some players in need of an iron lung and completely gassed but come to life after a mouthful of whatever is in
a certain coloured bottle.

The way someone oike
Nathan Brown gees themselves up to take a run off the back fence, that screams just done a line lol. Not saying he does, but agreeing with you, it can make you feel invincible, but not for a long time.

 

[InGusWeTrust]

Ok thanks for that - iv read too much - can you clarify - iv read that the police were called away and couldnt complete the second test - so when did they do a second test?

Police did one swipe test which was positive. Then did the more serious test (which is used as evidence) but didn’t do a preliminary check on that as is protocol. They just sent it to the lab later, because they had to go stop some dogs supporters invading someone’s kebab stand. Or something.

 

[CrittaMagic69]

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Not sure if this has been posted but its been doing the rounds on socials

It's fake, will the bag part. The actual picture is legit though lol.

 

[InGusWeTrust]

8 minutes drive from the Pullman hotel, using the SatNav thing.
15 minutes walk.
I'm not alleging anything. Just interested in what might be some of the gaps in the story.
On the other side of the coin my hunch is the cops already know they have compromised the taking of the sample(s) and even if there is a positive result they will not be able to charge him.
There are too many evidentiary gaps.

I don’t know about that mate. Yes it is poor practice that they missed a step (especially if he was truly affected and caused death or something when allowed to drive off) but as long as the chain of custody of the saliva sample was maintained, they probably are safe on that front. It makes you wonder though. I read their handbook from 2019 which says the vehicles used must have a refrigerator for these samples. If every highway patrol and squad car have the ability to test (which I think is the case) then they must have a safe and cold place to store samples. My biggest concern is so they get called to leave the scene for a home invasion emergency and how long afterwards do they deal with thos sample?

 

[InGusWeTrust]

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Great photoshopped images. Fkn clowns. Josh’s lawyer will be busy…

 

[chemdog]

 

[InGusWeTrust]

God I hate people, especially nrl fans.

 

[dogzofwar]

It's fake, will the bag part. The actual picture is legit though lol.

lol it is too I’ll delete

 

[wendog33]

The discordance between our viewpoints seems to be you being steadfast in your belief that it was the club and not Josh that stood him down. I won’t go on and on about it, but will just ask this… don’t you think that the club would acquiesce to Josh’s request to be stood down? Sure it’s their decision, but just like if a player didn’t want to play for some reason, they would acquiesce. It’s not a dictatorship, everyone has a choice. That’s my whole point. You can believe, imagine or assume whatever you want, but my point is, that’s what Gus said, so that’s what I will believe, as I have no reason not to and it sounds perfectly logical to me.

Keep in mind that Josh is apparently going through the loss of two people close to him, so even though he’d obviously want to play in the club’s first final since he has worn the emblem, he’d also be feeling loss, grief and now stress from this police matter, so getting away for a week will do him good. This is why I can easily believe he made the call and the club simply agreed. As if they’d say “no you’re playing”.

Whatever mate but I did not put forth misinformation nor derogatory statements as you stated. You carried on like a nit picking pork chop to unnecessarily inflate the situation.
It's my opinion that Gus guided him towards the stand down decision bc it was best for all concerned.

 

[boggie23]

On NRL 360 Anasta said he found it unusual he left at half time whilst watching the roosters and Souths game just to go and buy a phone charger.

Wentworth point has mad chargers apparently

 

[King Gus]

Correct

Salmon will score a double this week, and will have written on his wrist for you Marley.

 

[ASSASSIN]

Salmon will score a double this week, and will have written on his wrist for you Marley.

In his defence, it's not just Marley.

Last week when they were reading out our team list at the game every player got clapped and cheered except Hutch and Salmon.

Everyone is over him and I don't blame them.

 

[Harry Oz]

I don’t know about that mate. Yes it is poor practice that they missed a step (especially if he was truly affected and caused death or something when allowed to drive off) but as long as the chain of custody of the saliva sample was maintained, they probably are safe on that front. It makes you wonder though. I read their handbook from 2019 which says the vehicles used must have a refrigerator for these samples. If every highway patrol and squad car have the ability to test (which I think is the case) then they must have a safe and cold place to store samples. My biggest concern is so they get called to leave the scene for a home invasion emergency and how long afterwards do they deal with thos sample?

Another good example of a potential evidentiary problem. As you obviously know, Cops not only need to do cretain things to protect evidence, they also need to have the contemporaneous records.
That can be challenging especially if you suddenly have to deal with a home invasion...
This won't get to court

 

[Dogna88]

The generally accepted timeframes;

How long does cocaine stay in your blood?
Cocaine can be detected in your blood up to 2 days after taking it.

How long does cocaine stay in your saliva?
Cocaine can be detected in your saliva up to 2 days after taking it.

How long does cocaine stay in urine?
Cocaine can be detected in your urine up to 4 days after taking it.

How long does cocaine stay in your hair?
Cocaine can be detected on samples of your hair up to 90 days after taking it.

Friday night 10 pm to Monday morning 8 am is 52 hours, so well within the 96 hours (4 days).
Even if he took it Thursday night it would still be well within the 96 hours.
If he took it Wednesday night it wouldn't show up in the saliva test as it would be more than 48 hours (2 days).

My guess is he has had some decent legal and medical advice which is obvious from the Monday morning timing for the test. Based on the negative urine result he can legally challenge the police testing if it comes back positive. There have been a number of cases where the road side testing has been successfully challenged.



Team First

No. To legally challenge he would have to prove the rate his body metabolises cocaine loll. Good luck with that. It's a traffic offence, different rules of law apply.

His urine test means nothing if the police salvia test comes back positive. The offence relates to prescribe restricted substance present at the time of the offence (Friday 1045pm). It's that simple.

To challenge it, he would have to prove the test was contaminated or if he is prescribed medication, that would show a positive saliva reading


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[Shnissss]

I said near Auburn, fam. As in under Auburn LAC. It was only a few suburbs away lol

No you said he was pulled over near Auburn. Wentworth point is on the opposite side of the stadium to Auburn. Not near it.