North Queensland Cowboys property deals in the spotlight

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A string of high-profile Cowboys NRL players - including star Johnathan Thurston, co-captain Matt Scott and State of Origin player James Tamou - have acquired properties from millionaire developer Laurence Lancini, who is the long-serving chairman of the North Queensland rugby league club.

A Fairfax Media investigation can reveal that over the past seven years, 10 high-profile players have bought vacant blocks of land and apartments from Mr Lancini's companies.

Questions have been raised as to whether the property deals constitute breaches of the salary cap rules.

There is no suggestion individual players have broken rules.

NRL's head of football Todd Greenberg and Nick Weeks, the head of the NRL's integrity unit, flew to Townsville on Monday as part of their regular work.Any team found to have breached the salary cap rules could have points stripped and face substantial fines.

The Cowboys are second on the NRL ladder.

Weeks said in a statement on Tuesday that NRL salary cap auditors had already reviewed some of the matters raised and had determined no further action was required, however they did not rule out further examination of the other deals.

"As any new information becomes available it will be reviewed by the auditors," Weeks said in a statement.

Mr Lancini, the man known as "Mr Townsville", denied that any of the property deals were done in order to circumvent the salary cap.

Mr Lancini, 54, who is estimated to be worth $162 million, said that as "chair of the Cowboys" he is responsible for signing off on the salary cap. "I dispute anyone claiming that there's been any untoward deals done with our players," he said.

Instead, said Mr Lancini, he was merely helping players with their investment strategies.

Players including Thurston, Tamou, Michael Morgan, Kane Linnett, Antonio Winterstein, and former players Matt Bowen and Luke O'Donnell have all bought blocks of land at a new residential suburb Bohle Plains, which Mr Lancini has been instrumental in developing.

The Cowboys chairman said he did provide several names of builders to use to construct premises on their vacant blocks of land.

Asked if any of them were sponsors of the club, he replied: "We try and give opportunities to all our sponsors, absolutely. There is nothing wrong with that."

Mr Lancini would not disclose who the builder was, but Fairfax Media has learned that all the houses have been built by former Cowboys player Martin Locke, who had previously been employed as the club's business development manager.

Mr Locke, who has a corporate box at the Cowboys and who is a member of the Stockmen, a group of local businessmen keen to assist the players, was adamant that no special deals had been done with any of the players with the construction of their houses.

"As a past player I would help them as I would help anyone else … but no discounts," he said.

When asked who sold them the land, Mr Locke said: "The club has developers that will always try to point them in the right direction."

In November last year, rising star Jason Taumalolo was offered a lucrative deal to keep him in Townsville.

He subsequently bought a block of land in in South Vickers Street, Condon, from a company of which the directors are Mr Lancini and another Cowboys board member, Steven Titmus.

Mr Locke has recently poured the slab for Taumalolo's new residence.
His manager, Chris Orr, said Taumalolo's real estate purchase had nothing to do with contract negotiations. "His sporting contract is completely transparent and inside the NRL guidelines," Mr Orr said.

Cowboys five-eighth Morgan, who scored a try in Queensland's recent crushing State of Origin win over NSW, bought a block of land in August 2010 for $146,000 from Mr Lancini's company and he hired Mr Locke to build his house.

Morgan, who re-signed with the Cowboys earlier this year, has recently signed a contract to purchase an apartment in Brisbane, from a company in which Mr Lancini has a share.

Asked if Morgan's Brisbane property purchase had been discussed during contract negotiations, Mr Lancini said he "didn't deny" that property purchase may have been spoken about at the same time as contract negotiations but that Morgan's decision to buy had "never been an inducement" in the contract negotiations.

Thurston, regarded as the best player in league at the moment, also built a Locke home on his block of land at Bohle Plains, which he bought from Mr Lancini's company in 2007 for $129,000.

In February the following year, Thurston paid $800,000 for a swanky apartment in Mitchell Street, North Ward. Mr Lancini's company was again the vendor.

Also purchasing in the same building was Test player Willie Tonga, who was poached from the Bulldogs for the 2009 season. Tonga snapped up a $735,000 apartment in the Mitchell Street building in November 2008.

The wife of Cowboys co-captain Matt Scott purchased a property from Mr Lancini's company for $700,000 in April 2013. She had only owned the property for three weeks before it was on the market for $735,000. The Townsville property market has been in a slump in recent years and the property is yet to sell.

Asked if he thought it was a conflict of interest to be the chairman of the club and advising players to buy properties in which he had an interest, Mr Lancini replied: "Because I am giving young men advice, because they've come to me and asked the question. That's a conflict?"

Mr Lancini said that all the properties were sold to players at market price. He denied that he could be seen to be gaining a financial advantage for himself by steering players into buying his properties. "I disagree. I am helping them! I am helping them set their investment strategy."

Mr Lancini said he "verbally" advised other board members of his property sales to players.

On Friday, Peter Grimshaw, the media spokesman for the NRL, said there would be no comment "on the specifics of that case … until we have had a chance to talk to the Cowboys".

Mr Grimshaw also said in an email: "In general terms, there is no problem with someone from the club advising a player on investment opportunities that may interest them or providing specialist advice on areas that they have knowledge or experience in.

"However, it would be a breach if the player was offered a financial benefit which he didn't pay for [and] which was not declared.

"Financial benefits would need to be declared and if they are bona fide third party agreements, they are exempt from the cap."

Fairfax Media has asked various player managers for comment.

Do you know more: kmcclymont@smh.com.au



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There is no more investigation case closed ,what a load off bull
 

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The NRL salary cap is working well. It always has been. The auditor has always had total control . Nobody is rorting it and there is absolutely no way clubs can circumvent it.
And by the way, Borat has married Pamela Anderson and taken her virginity.
 

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Lol grabbing at thin air, they bought property and land legally for amounts of money form their own pockets nothing wrong here...
 

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Lol grabbing at thin air, they bought property and land legally for amounts of money form their own pockets nothing wrong here...

market value brother, market value and also conflict of interest.

there is no such thing as free lunch.... nor free legal advice nor property advice.

why not Bulldogs club just sell $300,000 apartments for $100,000 to our current players apart from the salary they receive from the club.

this is an absolutely corrupt deal and NRL is turning a blind eye to it.
 

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market value brother, market value and also conflict of interest.

there is no such thing as free lunch.... nor free legal advice nor property advice.

why not Bulldogs club just sell $300,000 apartments for $100,000 to our current players apart from the salary they receive from the club.

this is an absolutely corrupt deal and NRL is turning a blind eye to it.
Might sound like that but the bloke selling the land/property at the end of the day is the one losing money and losing it to keep some footy players that probably won't do him shit to help him recoup that money... If I was going to waste money on a footy player he better bring me back more money in return and in the NRL that won't happen as players aren't that marketable to make you big money like land is worth.
 

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Might sound like that but the bloke selling the land/property at the end of the day is the one losing money and losing it to keep some footy players that probably won't do him shit to help him recoup that money... If I was going to waste money on a footy player he better bring me back more money in return and in the NRL that won't happen as players aren't that marketable to make you big money like land is worth.

but the point you are missing is the guy who is doing all the property deals also works for the club.

In India , the IPL payers (not even internationals) get sponsored by Pepsi and coke in India on hundreds of thousand dollar advertisement deals.... people scratch their head what the fark has this player done to be on a billboard for pepsi.

They fact of the matter is that all the IPL players get their bank accounts audited to keep a check on betting, so any direct transfer from a bookie or any one else will get them into trouble.. Bookies in India get these kinda deals from local/international companies and pay their players for fixing games through these advert deals.

this is how you make black money white (without being racist)
 

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but the point you are missing is the guy who is doing all the property deals also works for the club.

In India , the IPL payers (not even internationals) get sponsored by Pepsi and coke in India on hundreds of thousand dollar advertisement deals.... people scratch their head what the fark has this player done to be on a billboard for pepsi.

They fact of the matter is that all the IPL players get their bank accounts audited to keep a check on betting, so any direct transfer from a bookie or any one else will get them into trouble.. Bookies in India get these kinda deals from local/international companies and pay their players for fixing games through these advert deals.

this is how you make black money white (without being racist)
I still don't see how selling property at a cheap price even though he works with the club is breaking any rules, yes might be a conflict interest but he is losing money selling it that cheap, players are paying out of their pocket for an actual piece of land/investment for the future or some have actually built homes for living in or renting out.

They have connections that are offering them cheap land because of who they work for (happens alot in the workplace), that is okay in my eyes as the players are still spending and the guy selling is losing money either way its not like he is giving them a house/piece of land for free.
 

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I still don't see how selling property at a cheap price even though he works with the club is breaking any rules, yes might be a conflict interest but he is losing money selling it that cheap, players are paying out of their pocket for an actual piece of land/investment for the future or some have actually built homes for living in or renting out.

They have connections that are offering them cheap land because of who they work for (happens alot in the workplace), that is okay in my eyes as the players are still spending and the guy selling is losing money either way its not like he is giving them a house/piece of land for free.

If the guy working at the club , gets cheap property deals for the marquee players , keeps big name players at the club without breaching the salary cap. Club gets happy and makes it up to this guy by offering him bonuses every year or club employs his wife, sons, daughters etc in different roles.

there are so many ways you can cheat the salary cap, Cowboys are dumb enough to be caught out. No two ways about it .

Now they are caught , they should be punished by NRL..... not for cheating the cap , but for their stupidity to be caught out.
 

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If the guy working at the club , gets cheap property deals for the marquee players , keeps big name players at the club without breaching the salary cap. Club gets happy and makes it up to this guy by offering him bonuses every year or club employs his wife, sons, daughters etc in different roles.

there are so many ways you can cheat the salary cap, Cowboys are dumb enough to be caught out. No two ways about it .

Now they are caught , they should be punished by NRL..... not for cheating the cap , but for their stupidity to be caught out.
I can see the issues you point out but the cheaper houses/land isn't that much of an issue in my eyes as people are spending money or losing money.
 

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Jobs for the boys. It's not illegal, but you can guarantee that Lancini has had a quiet word during contract negotiations. 100 or 200k off a block of land or house is **** all to a man who's personal fortune is in excess of 150 mil. It's no different to when our club gave cash to the wives and girlfriends of players, or when the storm paid the families of players to 'make sandwiches' lol.

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the players might be spending the money but if you buy a house for say 300k and sell it for 500k, its initial market value, bam you have an extra 200k. Surely there has to be more to this
 

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Always would be hard to prove anything. If they proved the properties were worth more than they wre bought for, then they can just say "of course the value went up, they are properties" and thats the end of it. Not that i wouldnt love to see Cowboys lose all their points for rorting, i just dont see it happening.
 

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Might sound like that but the bloke selling the land/property at the end of the day is the one losing money and losing it to keep some footy players that probably won't do him shit to help him recoup that money... If I was going to waste money on a footy player he better bring me back more money in return and in the NRL that won't happen as players aren't that marketable to make you big money like land is worth.
Yes, he may be losing money but also he is directly associated with the club, being a director and these deals are being brokered with the players by companies etc. associated with him. To me that seems like a bit of a third party deal type of arrangement and NRL guidelines expressly forbid such dealings. It is a big problem when the NRL cannot join the dots like every one else and see it for exactly what it is. AND from all accounts it is not the first time they have been investigated for this type of thing. Big head Ikin who used to be on the board of the Cowboys took great delight in pointing out that when the investigation was made previously they were found to be clear of any cap breaches. Saying this with one big smile on his face and the look of; well we got away with it so go suck eggs'
Should go and ask KIA to knock about $20k of their top line vehicles and sell them to the players at a discount...oh they can't do that because they are sponsors of the club and therefore unable to do the third party deal under salary cap guidelines. It is all in the perception.
 

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exactly right ... its not whether its right or wrong ... its whether you can get away with it, as have the broncos , rorters and cowboys ........
 

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Yes, he may be losing money but also he is directly associated with the club, being a director and these deals are being brokered with the players by companies etc. associated with him. To me that seems like a bit of a third party deal type of arrangement and NRL guidelines expressly forbid such dealings. It is a big problem when the NRL cannot join the dots like every one else and see it for exactly what it is. AND from all accounts it is not the first time they have been investigated for this type of thing. Big head Ikin who used to be on the board of the Cowboys took great delight in pointing out that when the investigation was made previously they were found to be clear of any cap breaches. Saying this with one big smile on his face and the look of; well we got away with it so go suck eggs'
Should go and ask KIA to knock about $20k of their top line vehicles and sell them to the players at a discount...oh they can't do that because they are sponsors of the club and therefore unable to do the third party deal under salary cap guidelines. It is all in the perception.

Explains how the cows kept such a powerfull roster (4 aussie internationals inlcuding the worlds best half) for all these year.....yet couldnt win shiit to show for it.
 
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