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Did he just not make the kiwi team or even train on squad or has he defected to Samoa for good?
 

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He's not good enough to make the Kiwi side and as for defecting to Samoa, it's a massive shitfight. Players seem to do whatever they like.
 

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I hope he controls his weight during the off season.
 

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He's not good enough to make the Kiwi side and as for defecting to Samoa, it's a massive shitfight. Players seem to do whatever they like.
Lol, he's easily good enough to make the Kiwi team.
 

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Yeah that's prob why he hasn't made it since what, 2012?
 

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I can't believe how overrated he's been this year imo has been shit all season. Drops the ball all the time stupid offloads where we always lose the ball and he's shit in defense. Doesn't deserve a spot in the kiwi team.
 

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His not shit if he was shit he wouldn't have got 3 mom awards 3 weeks in a row.

He does do some sill mistakes sometimes....

Point is even if Kearney didn't think he was good enough to make the side he didn't even make the train on squad which is why I'm thinking maybe he hasn't changed back his allience from samoa?
 

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We were killing it when he was starting prop beating the broncos in that run then supercoach des puts sam on bench and tols to starting prop and we played shit from then on
 

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We were killing it when he was starting prop beating the broncos in that run then supercoach des puts sam on bench and tols to starting prop and we played shit from then on
Agree!!!
Actually if there is a player over rated here on the kennel it's bloody Aiden Tolman
 

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Lol, he's easily good enough to make the Kiwi team.
He used to be good enough, now he isn't. He has been dumped. Taukeiaho, Lolohea Kata and a few others played in the Samoa/Tonga game and they got picked for the Kiwis, Sam hasn't because he isn't good enough.
 
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this tells you how good the kiwi team is.

their forwards >>>>>> our forwards
 

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I find it is sad that kas best game this year was for samoa
 

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How good they are has nothing to do with why they aren't in the team. JWH hasn't made the team in 2 years and he's the best Kiwi prop and probably the best in the comp.
 

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You cant be serious ! What more do you want from a forward?
The possibility of breaking the line or an offload would be nice. Getting out the way on tackle 4 would also be awesome!

But seriously, he is a work horse and every team needs one
 

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The possibility of breaking the line or an offload would be nice. Getting out the way on tackle 4 would also be awesome!

But seriously, he is a work horse and every team needs one
Yes every team needs ONE and only ONE not two starting props who are work horses.
 

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A prop taking it up on the 4th to centre the set is a direct ploy from Des. It's not the player. It's the coach and the fact our ****ing useless halves have no skill whatsoever doesn't help.
 

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His not shit if he was shit he wouldn't have got 3 mom awards 3 weeks in a row.

He does do some sill mistakes sometimes....

Point is even if Kearney didn't think he was good enough to make the side he didn't even make the train on squad which is why I'm thinking maybe he hasn't changed back his allience from samoa?
The Toa squad is made up form players who qualify for Samoa through their parents or grandparents and are either Kiwis or Aussies (or there is Frank Pritchard, born in Liverpool Hospital an he played for NZ and Samoa!!) and they only pledge allegiance to Samoa when they do not make the NZ or Aus squads. There is no financial incentive when they play for Samoa, but there is a strong commitment to the jersey. No matter where a Samoan is born, there is a strong cultural connection to Samoa. From memory in the Tongan team, there were two Tongan born players - Kata and Hurrell - the rest were in similar situations to Samoa.

I would like for all players who play in the NRL to be eligible for SOO, then able to play internationals for the island countries. This is a different debate though.
 
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