Opinion Jake Averillo has more to Offer.

[under_Dogz]

What I’d like to see is the club move on from Averillo because there are better options within and beyond.

 

[1967]

Who knows what it actually was, but forget about the transfer fee, what if Oloapu is just better? Averillo seems like he'd be the perfect utility that can cover any backline or halves position off the bench in case there are injuries. He's a good squad player but has yet to master any one position. Yes he's been moved around a lot and shown a lot of nice glimpses of his talent but he also has just as many flaws in his game at each of those positions.

I appreciate your comments mate, you’re generally on the mark and yes Oloapu might be better, but shouldn’t we find that out via short bursts off the bench instead of the hard way.

How about Averillo starting 6, KO short stints of the bench when we’re not playing top opposition, if he carves up give him more time and yes Averillo can then take the utility role.

Maybe Averillo hasn’t mastered any one position yet because he’s been regularly moved around.

Right now I’d like to see Averillo have the 6 … that speed footwork & passing suits the 6 role, what happens if that’s his magic position and he’s carving them up, what happens if KO’s coming off the bench & also carving up, nice problem to have, maybe KO to 13 and we finally have a great ball playing lock after all these years.

I just believe Averillos always been a 6 and that’s where he should have always been.

 

[GA45]

Who knows what it actually was, but forget about the transfer fee, what if Oloapu is just better? Averillo seems like he'd be the perfect utility that can cover any backline or halves position off the bench in case there are injuries. He's a good squad player but has yet to master any one position. Yes he's been moved around a lot and shown a lot of nice glimpses of his talent but he also has just as many flaws in his game at each of those positions.

Yeah I tend to agree that 14 could be his spot. He has talent but the one thing hurting him seems to be he’s scared of contact. It will come in time but he seems timid at times.
With HIA these days he’s the perfect cover off the bench to play 1-7 if needed and I’m sure in time he could cover 9 and 13 in spot mins. A bit like Dylan Walker As he bulks Up with age.

 

[NQ Dog]

Let's be honest Averillo can't be any worse than any before him so give him a go. At worst, he could be a great 14.

 

[D- voice]

What about Oloapu? They didn't pay a transfer fee for him so he could sit in Reserves for a few seasons..

We don't need an Einstein to work out that Oloapu is highly rated by our club...
I also know they are very happy with his progress and waiting for the right time for his debut.

 

[D- voice]

Who knows what it actually was, but forget about the transfer fee, what if Oloapu is just better? Averillo seems like he'd be the perfect utility that can cover any backline or halves position off the bench in case there are injuries. He's a good squad player but has yet to master any one position. Yes he's been moved around a lot and shown a lot of nice glimpses of his talent but he also has just as many flaws in his game at each of those positions.

Time is on his side, but needs to convince CC of that not us.

 

[Dawain87]

With Crichton and Xerri coming across next season it's hard to see the club holding on to him unless on a reduced offer- my bet is the Dolphins probs pick him up with the offer of a fresh start and a chance to reinvent his game.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

I don't know with Averillo. All I can say, all I'm gonna say is, he a fuckin better 1 that Perham. Ball plays better, attacks the ball better, passes better.

 

[The DoggFather]

We don't need an Einstein to work out that Oloapu is highly rated by our club...
I also know they are very happy with his progress and waiting for the right time for his debut.

KO is Gus' project. I'm sure he will play FG when Gus wants him to.

 

[KiwiDog7]

I honestly don’t think he’s going as bad as people think he is this season at Centre under Ciro

 

[GoTheDoggies]

Averillo is the perfect utility. Covers a number of positions without the hype or talk of Mbye.

 

[1967]

I honestly don’t think he’s going as bad as people think he is this season at Centre under Ciro

Exactly mate, aside from defence he’s going ok, I was surprised with 19 tackle busts.

My point is I think we’d get more from him getting him at 6 closer to the action, he’s a dangerous ball runner great step and pass & I think we could really use that in a 6 at the moment, we have others that can handle that centre role.

 

[The DoggFather]

I'm still waiting and wondering what CC saw at training to justify moving Avo from FB for Perham....

 

[bulldogruss]

Perham has 4 try assists (2nd in the team) & 1 try so far in 8 games. Averillo had 1 try assist & 7 tries in his 11 games at Fullback last year. Comparable stats give or take.Avo had 3 line breaks in his 11 games, Perham has 3 in his 8 so far.

Perhams 144 metre average run metres per game is around 60 metres more per game than what we got out of Averillo at FB last year. Perham sits 6th in the comp for fullbacks in this stat.

It would be great to see him get more tackle busts, line breaks and tries. I think he has done ok so far and no more, and CC will persist with him. I can’t see Averillo being switched back there either based on the stats so far & pre season training etc

 

[1967]

Perham has 4 try assists (2nd in the team) & 1 try so far in 8 games. Averillo had 1 try assist & 7 tries in his 11 games at Fullback last year. Comparable stats give or take.Avo had 3 line breaks in his 11 games, Perham has 3 in his 8 so far.

Perhams 144 metre average run metres per game is around 60 metres more per game than what we got out of Averillo at FB last year. Perham sits 6th in the comp for fullbacks in this stat.

It would be great to see him get more tackle busts, line breaks and tries. I think he has done ok so far and no more, and CC will persist with him. I can’t see Averillo being switched back there either based on the stats so far & pre season training etc

Good info mate, my only gripe with Perham is his lack of intent on the ball, we saw that last week when the Sharks player out enthused him for the ball to score that try, and he’s allowed a couple of try’s by letting the ball bounce over the last few weeks.

He needs to fix that fast because he was attacking the ball and more urgently onto it first few games.

Plus I’d like to see him just run straight and hard, stop the dancing, but he’s stats prove he’s been solid so yes he’ll stay where he is ..

I think Avo is more dangerous up in the action with ball in hands anyway ..

 

[D- voice]

KO is Gus' project. I'm sure he will play FG when Gus wants him to.

It's good to see both coach and general manager of football working together as they should.

 

[Yougra]

Exactly mate, aside from defence he’s going ok, I was surprised with 19 tackle busts.

My point is I think we’d get more from him getting him at 6 closer to the action, he’s a dangerous ball runner great step and pass & I think we could really use that in a 6 at the moment, we have others that can handle that centre role.

I like the points you have brought up and I don't think we have anything to lose by trying Avo at 6

Contrary to popular opinion I think his one on one defence has been pretty good this year, when attackers are running straight at him. A couple of times this year he has had bigger players trying to trample him and (to my suprise) he usually brings them down. BUT.....it's when he has to defend laterally and has numbers coming at him etc he gets caught out arm grabbing and he doesn't have that aggression to make it personal and not let his opposite get the better of him

Defending at 6 it would be more direct traffic running at him (which I think he could handle) plus he would have forwards either side of him

Attack wise he would definitely pose more threat than Flanno and could really add something to the team attack wise if he gets his hands on the ball more

I definitely want to see Karl O get his chance but we have to remember the kid is only 18 and ideally he will start to get short spurts off the bench as part of his education without having any major responsibility thrust on him. I trust CC and Gus to know when the time is right to blood him even though most of us want him in the team yesterday

In the meantime I would definitely prefer to see Avo at 6 instead of Reynolds

 

[1967]

Good comment mate, and not because you agree with my thoughts, you raise a lot of good points especially around his lateral defence and how that changes in the 6 role ..

Here’s the thing, no one can deny we’ve had a half’s issue for a long time.

Everyone’s been screaming out for the club to go buy an elite 7, which there aren’t any available … I don’t believe we need to buy, I believe we already have the talent.

What’s wrong with our half’s partners being 6 Averillo - 7 Burton?

No one can deny Averillo’s running, step, and passing game is very good, give him the 6 role and a license to run roam play eyes up footy and use his skills. .. do what Bellamy does with his 6, get him around the big blokes supporting the offloads, he’d score a truck load of try’s for us and keep working with him on how to set up other players and his defence.

Yes Burton needs some 7’s coaching, but he already has the boot and the running game, get him on the videos studying Cronk, Hynes, Reynolds and their organisational management skills and passing, then get him on the park day after day week after week practising his short falls ..

Bring in a specialist half’s coach and instead of buying elite go old school and produce our own.

Averillo’s 22 - Burton 23 … they could be our half’s pairing for years to come, let them mature into those roles keep improving them and it will repay us 10 fold .. go back to improving players, not buying them.

In the mean time we work on the long game with Oloapu as a contingency plan and at worst a great 13 …

 

[D.O.W.]

Perham has 4 try assists (2nd in the team) & 1 try so far in 8 games. Averillo had 1 try assist & 7 tries in his 11 games at Fullback last year. Comparable stats give or take.Avo had 3 line breaks in his 11 games, Perham has 3 in his 8 so far.

Perhams 144 metre average run metres per game is around 60 metres more per game than what we got out of Averillo at FB last year. Perham sits 6th in the comp for fullbacks in this stat.

It would be great to see him get more tackle busts, line breaks and tries. I think he has done ok so far and no more, and CC will persist with him. I can’t see Averillo being switched back there either based on the stats so far & pre season training etc

that’s actually surprising and interesting…. Would love him to pick up the ball and run flat stick at the defence, he’d be near 200m a game… he prefers to jog to the line and jink his way through. Fullbacks could learn a thing or two from NFL punt returners, they go for maximum field position by sprinting the return to gain net yardage - if they jogged, they’d only get half the territory and field position.

 

[Roger the alien]

Averillo is the perfect utility. Covers a number of positions without the hype or talk of Mbye.

True however I want Skelton at 14 next year, he can cover the backs while he transitions into a backrower.
1. Crichton
2. JAC
3. Alamoti
4. Xerri
5. Kiraz
14. Skelton