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This has nothing to do with the deBellend case but goes to domestic violence very heavily (20 to 1 - or more) purpetrated by men.

It's this kind of selfish, totally over the top tragedy, that swings the public's opinion and probably the Court's and officers views when they have to deal with these incidences.

What gets into a man's head that makes him have so much rage and stupidity to stab a partner to death (in a police station in this instance), leave his children homeless without a mother or a father, facing several years inprisonment and very likely never, ever have a relationship with his children, knowing they, and all his family, hate him and could never forgive him.

Is this the basic difference between men and women that Trafford 10 spoke of.

There's only ever been a handful of women who've resorted to these dispicable acts.

It's incomprehensible.

What clouds mens judgements to enable them to commit rape, murder, coward punches, violence?

Alleged 'vicious' courthouse murder captured on security cameras - https://www.9news.com.au/national/p...-footage/307a6cd6-e46b-4f3b-a67b-50f6ee168cb0
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Also, is it not obvious? Social factors.
Females speak about 8x more than males do during any given day.
Their vocabulary exceeds males, thus able to express their emotions far more eloquently.
This leaves males feeling unheard and further exasperated to the point that they express their emotional pain and anguish in a physical manifestation.
Another is years of emotional, psychological and physical bullying by a female partner, resulting in a man snapping and doing something out of their character, particularly as there's very little to nil support for male victims.
Entire situation is shit :(
 

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Also, is it not obvious? Social factors.
Females speak about 8x more than males do during any given day.
Their vocabulary exceeds males, thus able to express their emotions far more eloquently.
This leaves males feeling unheard and further exasperated to the point that they express their emotional pain and anguish in a physical manifestation.
Another is years of emotional, psychological and physical bullying by a female partner, resulting in a man snapping and doing something out of their character, particularly as there's very little to nil support for male victims.
Entire situation is shit :(
Below are the official figures from the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare.

You can clearly see the vast majority of victims are women.

You seem to be talking from personal experience. If you need to talk you can pm me.

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Also, is it not obvious? Social factors.
Females speak about 8x more than males do during any given day.
Their vocabulary exceeds males, thus able to express their emotions far more eloquently.
This leaves males feeling unheard and further exasperated to the point that they express their emotional pain and anguish in a physical manifestation.
Another is years of emotional, psychological and physical bullying by a female partner, resulting in a man snapping and doing something out of their character, particularly as there's very little to nil support for male victims.
Entire situation is shit :(
Thanks for responding. It's hard for MOST women to understand SOME men's aggression in these matters.

The more sharing of insights is a good thing.
 

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Below are the official figures from the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare.
You can clearly see the vast majority of victims are women.
You seem to be talking from personal experience. If you need to talk you can pm me.
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Yes, yet where do they source their information from?
For example, have you seen reported anywhere that the relationship type by percentage that's most likely to experience domestic violence are lesbians?
Feel free to confirm that @ the Australian Bureau of Statistics BTW.

Thanks for responding. It's hard for MOST women to understand SOME men's aggression in these matters.
The more sharing of insights is a good thing.
I feel that actually is a greater social issue.
Too much time staring at screens, leaves us less adept in face to face communication, which filters down to our virtual interactions too.
I appreciate you candidly conversing with me and thank you for your time doing so :grinning:
Hopefully we can be the example and encourage others to take the time to talk, listen and hear each other.
The less violence in all forms, the better.
 

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https://www.dvaa.com.au/misleading-...ePQw3vVXFdfoWCj84GQFD9wq8OODDqPAfxebtlvtwbLcQ
Yes, yet where do they source their information from?
For example, have you seen reported anywhere that the relationship type by percentage that's most likely to experience domestic violence are lesbians?
Feel free to confirm that @ the Australian Bureau of Statistics BTW.


I feel that actually is a greater social issue.
Too much time staring at screens, leaves us less adept in face to face communication, which filters down to our virtual interactions too.
I appreciate you candidly conversing with me and thank you for your time doing so :grinning:
Hopefully we can be the example and encourage others to take the time to talk, listen and hear each other.
The less violence in all forms, the better.
So true. Good to sensibly work through issues.
 

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For anyone interested, his trial started
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'I was numb inside': Jack de Belin rape trial hears from alleged victim of NRL star
The St George Illawarra NRL player has pleaded not guilty to aggravated sexual assault at his Wollongong trial

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Published:19:36 Tue 3 November 2020

NRL star Jack de Belin raped a teenager after ignoring her protests to stop undressing her and later asked why she was being “so emotional”, a jury has been told.
The St George Illawarra player, 29, and his friend Callan Sinclair, 23, have pleaded not guilty to the aggravated sexual assault of the woman, then 19, after meeting her in a Wollongong bar in December 2018.
Giving evidence on the opening day of the Wollongong district court trial, the woman said she thought the trio was headed to another club in the early hours of 9 December before de Belin led the group to a North Wollongong unit “to charge his phone”.
“I said I want to go home,” the woman told the jury. She initially told the men she’d wait outside for them before asking to use the bathroom, the court heard.
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While on the toilet in a bedroom ensuite, the woman said de Belin walked in naked and began showering – causing her to exit quickly.
She was met in the dark bedroom by a clothed Sinclair, whom she’d kissed earlier in the night. De Belin then untied her top from behind and shoved her on the bed, she told the jury.
Covering herself and saying “no, stop” as the men said “show us your tits”, the woman said she felt the footballer remove the rest of her clothes.
“He split my legs open and put himself on top of me with his hand around my neck and resting on my collarbone,” she said. Then he had intercourse, she told the jury.
The woman couldn’t recall how long that sexual encounter lasted, testifying she “was just going dead and numb inside and just let it happen”. “I only weigh 51 kilograms – they’re twice the size of me,” she said.
De Belin and Sinclair alternated positions while “cheering each other on”, the woman told the court. “I just had tears out of my eyes the whole time.”
When Sinclair left the room, de Belin again assaulted her, and she screamed “stop” due to the pain, the court was told.
After de Belin finished, the woman told Sinclair she didn’t want “any of this to happen”, she said on Tuesday. De Belin asked why she was “being so emotional” and said she couldn’t “tell anyone about this”, she told the jury.
The trio caught an Uber back into Wollongong’s CBD with de Belin handing the woman $50 “for the Uber and to keep your mouth shut”, she said.
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The jury is expected to see CCTV from the bar and Wollongong’s CBD, including the woman dancing and playing with de Belin’s hat. Sinclair and the woman, who knew each other previously, kissed at the bar with the woman describing it as “pecking” and “nothing serious”.
In his opening address to the jury, crown prosecutor David Scully said the “friendliness” ended when the trio got back to the unit.
The woman complained to friends, family and work colleagues before making a formal police statement and agreeing to a medical examination on the afternoon of 9 December. Her DNA was later found in the unit.
The jury would hear intercepted phone calls involving the accused men in which they effectively accepted sexual activity occurred but they said it was consensual, Scully said.
De Belin’s mother and sister, as well as a person connected with St George, may give evidence during the trial, the footballer’s barrister, David Campbell SC, said. He asked the jury to keep an open mind because things that at first appeared “cogent, strong and accurate” could seem different as more pieces of the puzzle emerged.
The footballer did not dispute sexual activity took place, Campbell said. “The issue he is raising is: everything happened with the consent of those involved.”
Craig Smith SC, for Sinclair, echoed the statements about consent and stated his client didn’t sexually assault the teenager. “There is evidence both before and after that activity that is consistent with that activity being consensual activity,” he said.
The trial continues.
 

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Personally I think Jack is innocent based on the story outlined so far within court.

He's guilty of being unfaithful to his wife, but I think that's it.
 

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Personally I think Jack is innocent based on the story outlined so far within court.

He's guilty of being unfaithful to his wife, but I think that's it.
In a court of law that equates to his word means nothing.
 

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In a court of law that equates to his word means nothing.
Not really.

De Belin can choose to take the stand or remain silent. If he takes the stand it could be viewed as him being transparent and the chance to tell his side of the story. It will be up to the jury in this case to decide whether or not they believe his version of events.

Whether or not he cheated on his wife has no bearing on whether or not his version of events are believable.

If it were the case that anyone who had cheated was unable to believe, half of the country could never be believed.
 

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Not really.

De Belin can choose to take the stand or remain silent. If he takes the stand it could be viewed as him being transparent and the chance to tell his side of the story. It will be up to the jury in this case to decide whether or not they believe his version of events.

Whether or not he cheated on his wife has no bearing on whether or not his version of events are believable.

If it were the case that anyone who had cheated was unable to believe, half of the country could never be believed.
There are those of us who keep our word to our wives to never cheat. If I was on that jury, I would view his betrayal of his word to his wife to mean everything that was coming out of his mouth was more of the same, lies.
 
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