Iran v Israel - possible situation

[ouwet]

Typical Coward, starts then cries victim...

Is all you do jump in on arguing with insults? Seriously.

Either contribute something worthwhile or run along.

 

[ASSASSIN]

Is all you do jump in on arguing with insults? Seriously.

Either contribute something worthwhile or run along.

I told you before little boy, when you contribute something, I will. Just treating you the way you demand to be treated.

Now go back to licking your masters arseholes...

 

[UmoGus]

hahaha re-read the thread please...

I deleted 4 or so posts way after the first time I posted on her because I thought you guys are so brainwashed it's not worth arguing about, then you guys kept piling it on after I had stopped with the same BS.

Let's ask our spiritual Hassan for some advice... Hassan Nasrallah show us the light please. LMFAO

You deleted posts because you're a coward. I'd love to know if you make the same comments in person that you do safe behind a screen.

 

[ouwet]

You deleted posts because you're a coward. I'd love to know if you make the same comments in person that you do safe behind a screen.

I always wear my ouwet cross everywhere... I don't hide it!

I wore it in Lebanon too even when I crossed to the West side!

Again I said why I deleted... Everything I deleted I have basically said since so get your head out of your ass and pay attention Umo

 

[UmoGus]

I always wear my ouwet cross everywhere... I don't hide it!

I wore it in Lebanon too even when I crossed to the West side!

Again I said why I deleted... Everything I deleted I have basically said since so get your head out of your ass and pay attention Umo

I don't care if you wear a cross. I said I wonder if you say the same things in person that you do online.

Get your head out of your ass and pay attention.

 

[ouwet]

I don't care if you wear a cross. I said I wonder if you say the same things in person that you do online.

Get your head out of your ass and pay attention.

Was at Canterbury Leagues on Saturday night talking about Hezbollah and celebrating Nasrallah's death (Israel confirmation was enough, didn't need to wait for Hezbollah's confirmation)... Laughed loud about it! Didn't even end up watching the Football.

 

[UmoGus]

Was at Canterbury Leagues on Saturday night talking about Hezbollah and celebrating Nasrallah's death (Israel confirmation was enough, didn't need to wait for Hezbollah's confirmation)... Laughed loud about it! Didn't even end up watching the Football.

I'll gladly invite you to come talk to me about it in person and tell me how scummy Palestinians are

 

[Özil]

I always wear my ouwet cross everywhere... I don't hide it!

I wore it in Lebanon too even when I crossed to the West side!

Again I said why I deleted... Everything I deleted I have basically said since so get your head out of your ass and pay attention Umo

Bro, I was in Lebanon literally 2 months ago, I have seen people wear Ouwet cross in my city of Tripoli and no one in the area batted an eyelid.

There's little to no hate in Lebanon, everybody are passed the political and religious hate.

The Lebanese army do not take shit from people who start shit for no reason.

Right now Lebanese people need uniting and that's what's happening but you bring religious hate into your discussions and leads to no where but to insults to who ever are against Israel.

 

[Hacky McAxe]

I don’t buy that “if they could they would” line
We’re debating with what happened not hypotheticals

Israel has killed more children in less than a year than Hamas has killed anyone in their entire existence
Think about that for a second.
More children killed by Israel in less than a year than Hamas has killed anyone of any age for 36 years.


This isn’t a defence of Hamas’ actions, I’m just refuting your claim of “they’re all the same”
One is clearly much much worse than anyone else and their kill count of children alone is a testament to that

Israel needs to be called out for their crimes, but if you lump everyone in the same boat then it helps them get away with their genocide

I don't disagree on the calling out of Israel. It's clear that their death numbers are much higher, and that their goal was collective punishment. Effectively state sanctioned terrorism.

But my point stands. It's not about numbers. It's about intent. Hamas went into Israel with two goals:

1) kidnap as many as possible for later trades

2) execute as many unarmed civilians as possible

I know it's a hypothetical, but I have no doubt that if they had the weaponry of Israel, they would not hesitate to cause the same sort of damage.

Long before the attacks, Hamas carried out indiscriminate rocket strikes on Israel. If it wasn't for the Iron Dome, Israel would suffer the same casualties as Palestine. Hezbollah have done the same. They haven't been solely targeting military infrastructure. They have been firing into civilian populations.

Again, death count aside, the intention is the same. They want to cause as many deaths as possible. They just don't have the capability.

 

[ouwet]

I'll gladly invite you to come talk to me about it in person and tell me how scummy Palestinians are

Yeah ok invite me somewhere you and me can talk 1 on 1.

I would love to hear your perspective without all this name calling from both of us. Maybe you can change my mind

 

[ouwet]

Bro, I was in Lebanon literally 2 months ago, I have seen people wear Ouwet cross in my city of Tripoli and no one in the area batted an eyelid.

There's little to no hate in Lebanon, everybody are passed the political and religious hate.

The Lebanese army do not take shit from people who start shit for no reason.

Right now Lebanese people need uniting and that's what's happening but you bring religious hate into your discussions and leads to no where but to insults to who ever are against Israel.

You are right, you are the only reasonable one on here!

If only the army was strong to take charge but a militia is stronger and dictates it unfortunately. I'll stop now but I know they'll continue and call me a cowards etc. mehh whatever call away especially L.B

 

[UmoGus]

Yeah ok invite me somewhere you and me can talk 1 on 1.

I would love to hear your perspective without all this name calling from both of us. Maybe you can change my mind

Ok I'll be at doyle oval parramatta tonight. Message me when you're there

 

[ouwet]

Ok I'll be at doyle oval parramatta tonight. Message me when you're there

Haha funny.

Lets meet at an oval wtf you 15? Probably are.

Come to Brighton RSL tonight... ill be there.

 

[UmoGus]

Haha funny.

Lets meet at an oval wtf you 15? Probably are.

Come to Brighton RSL tonight... ill be there.

I play touch footy there

 

[TrueDawg]

I don't disagree on the calling out of Israel. It's clear that their death numbers are much higher, and that their goal was collective punishment. Effectively state sanctioned terrorism.

But my point stands. It's not about numbers. It's about intent. Hamas went into Israel with two goals:

1) kidnap as many as possible for later trades

2) execute as many unarmed civilians as possible

I know it's a hypothetical, but I have no doubt that if they had the weaponry of Israel, they would not hesitate to cause the same sort of damage.

Long before the attacks, Hamas carried out indiscriminate rocket strikes on Israel. If it wasn't for the Iron Dome, Israel would suffer the same casualties as Palestine. Hezbollah have done the same. They haven't been solely targeting military infrastructure. They have been firing into civilian populations.

Again, death count aside, the intention is the same. They want to cause as many deaths as possible. They just don't have the capability.

Death count should not be put aside
It’s the only measure we have of who is deadlier

Indiscriminate rockets attacks don’t cause the same amount of deaths as the Israelis have with their weaponry

I won’t be taking your word. The facts don’t support your narrative

 

[Hound Dog]

Look at the terrorist sympathisers in this thread. Fucking disgusting

You're right, it's disappointing seeing sympathisers for the Zionist terrorists

 

[Özil]

But my point stands. It's not about numbers. It's about intent. Hamas went into Israel with two goals:

1) kidnap as many as possible for later trades

2) execute as many unarmed civilians as possible

The original plan for Hamas was to kidnap and execute military personnel near the Gaza border and attack their military sites near the border of Gaza but it was Sinwar who went against that plan with Al-Qassam brigade to kidnap and execute the civilians.

But there were also other things that day that just don't add up, the IDF who normally Patrol the borders in and around Gaza were not anywhere to be seen, why the warnings in the lead up to the attack to the IDF were ignored and why it took IDF 6hrs to respond to the attacks.

 

[Hacky McAxe]

Death count should not be put aside
It’s the only measure we have of who is deadlier

Indiscriminate rockets attacks don’t cause the same amount of deaths as the Israelis have with their weaponry

I won’t be taking your word. The facts don’t support your narrative

It's the same though. Hezbollah, Hamas, and Israel all fired indiscriminate rockets. It's just that Israel's did more damage.

But whether you kill 400 or 400,000. Terrorism is still terrorism.

 

[Hacky McAxe]

The original plan for Hamas was to kidnap and execute military personnel near the Gaza border and attack their military sites near the border of Gaza but it was Sinwar who went against that plan with Al-Qassam brigade to kidnap and execute the civilians.

But there were also other things that day that just don't add up, the IDF who normally Patrol the borders in and around Gaza were not anywhere to be seen, why the warnings in the lead up to the attack to the IDF were ignored and why it took IDF 6hrs to respond to the attacks.

Yes, I'm aware of the claims Hamas made (don't target civilians), but the problem is that it was Hamas footage that was recovered that shows Hamas fighters executing civilians. Not just Sinwar.

And I'm aware of the conspiracy theories about Israel allowing it to happen. I think it's possible but I still don't believe it as it requires Israeli military to allow Israelis to be killed. And it also requires the head of defence to accept that he will be forever seen as a failure.

Imagine if you were at any level of the army and you had your commanders tell you that you need to step back and let the enemy kill your friends and family. No matter how much mitary indoctrination you get, there's no way to everyone would sit back and accept that.

It's Occam's razor. The simplest answer is usually the accurate one. And in this case, the simplest answer is that the IDF weren't ready for a coordinated attack.

 

[Doogie]

Wouldn't shoot you bro

My guess is it was a distraction while they hit Damascus targets.

You mean again?

Those shots at Damascus didn't really hit much at all. Damascus is ~20-30km from the Lebanese border, so if it went off track early quite likely it was a dud. Who knows though?