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History stacked against Dogs
Canterbury up against history in elimination football



Canterbury’s Greg Eastwood, left, is congratulated by Aiden Tolman after one of his tries on Thursday night.

Elimination football is closing in on Canterbury as NRL history begins to haunt them.

The 24-16 loss to North Queensland at Belmore Sports Ground on Thursday night cost the Bulldogs a top-four spot. They are now fifth, could be sixth by the end of the round, and if they lose to South Sydney next Friday while Brisbane and Penrith keep winning, they could be eighth by the end of the regular season.

Canterbury came from sixth spot in 1995 to win the premiership. But since then the lowest placing for a team winning the title has been fourth — Sydney Roosters in 2002, Wests Tigers in 2005 and Melbourne in 2009.

The Bulldogs are not leaking too many points. They are fifth-best in the NRL for missed tackles.

But the errors are piling up. The Bulldogs are seventh with 202 over 23 games, an average of 8.8 per game. They made 11 against the Cowboys.

The players are aware of it and want to fix it and they are taking solace in the fact their traditional stout Bulldogs defence is still with them.

“They (Cowboys) had a lot of sets on our line and we turned them away. So defence is really strong and that’s a real positive going into finals,” prop Aiden Tolman said.

“A few indecisions, a few missed tackles and the game was lost.”

Tolman played in both grand finals (2012, 2014) the Bulldogs lost. He admits the Dogs were scoring more points back then.

“Our attack has been understrength a little bit,” he said.

“It’s not so much our structure needs changing. It is staying in the game for the whole 80 minutes. We have these 10 to 15-minute periods where things slip away.

“I don’t think it’s fatigue from getting to this point in the season. Every other team has played the same amount of matches.”

Backrower Greg Eastwood did what the Bulldogs need more of on Thursday night against the defending premiers. He scored two tries and broke the line.

The Bulldogs lie eighth in the NRL in line breaks. Eastwood’s was The Dogs’ only break compared with five to the Cowboys.

“It just comes down to the individual wanting to hold that ball, when going into the contact or playing the ball. In the last month or so our ball control and completing (sets) has let us down,” Eastwood said when asked where the polish was missing from the Dogs’ football.

“We’ve made some errors lately and it’s not like us. The first half of the year we were great with the ball. The second half we’ve slackened off a bit.

“Other teams are completing well and playing for the whole 80 (minutes). That’s why we’re losing.

“Our defence is good. It’s a matter of staying with teams and completing better.”

Coach Des Hasler said his players had “a real dig, did some admirable things” in the eight-point loss to a Johnathan Thurston-inspired North Queensland.

“We don’t always want to be admirable. We need to turn that around,” Hasler said.

Both Tolman and Eastwood said there would no panic about having to play elimination football every week in the finals.

“We’re not busted, but we need to be better,” Tolman said.

“It’s not so much going into the finals after a loss or two. It’s about having confidence. At the moment we’ve got that only in patches. We need to fix it.”

Eastwood added: “It doesn’t concern us. We just have to keep winning.

“Hopefully we win next week and get some momentum going into the first week of the finals. Then hopefully we make it four in a row and take out the big one.”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sub...d3b4d33aa30e9b3c2bc26c9ff12&memtype=anonymous

Reading that article just annoyed me. Our structure is simply not good enough to chase points.

 

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Our traditional stout defence? The A defender was either lazy, out of position or not there all night on Thursday. To be honest with you I don't know how Thurston didn't attack us there more. The one time he did he made a line break because Faulalo didn't mark up. If TRex or Faulalo were there we were vulnerable.
Then our right side was flimsy again at best. The Cowboys exposed us 4-5 times in the first half but their execution was off.
 

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Yes we have excellent defence but we do ourselves absolutley no favours when we get the ball back after defending 5 repeat sets and dropping it cold the next play.

Good defence means absolutely nothing if we cant control the ball in possession and score points.
 

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Yeah yeah start by making 10 to 15 meters per hit up.
 

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They are now fifth, could be sixth by the end of the round, and if they lose to South Sydney next Friday while Brisbane and Penrith keep winning, they could be eighth by the end of the regular season.
If we end up 8th it would be a fair relection of the season.
 

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Title should be

'History stacked against Des'


History has shown this style of football does not work, so most likely he will keep persisting will it. We need a miracle if we are to make a finals run, something like Parramatta 2009 where we just keep offloading the ball to get the attack going and actually contest bombs
 

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Where do these reporters come from? The worst we could end up is seventh not eighth
 

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Resigning Eastwood on 400,000 per year shows that Des won't be making any changes to the way we play
 

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We look like we could be playing at Pepper stadium tbh. Unless Titans win today. See Souffs beating us and Panthers beating Manly next week.
 

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We look like we could be playing at Pepper stadium tbh. Unless Titans win today. See Souffs beating us and Panthers beating Manly next week.
Games are played at Allianz or Homebush for sydney teams
 

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Games are played at Allianz or Homebush for sydney teams
I didnt think that was applicable until after week 1 as thats always been the case.
 

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History stacked against Dogs
Canterbury up against history in elimination football



Canterbury’s Greg Eastwood, left, is congratulated by Aiden Tolman after one of his tries on Thursday night.

Elimination football is closing in on Canterbury as NRL history begins to haunt them.

The 24-16 loss to North Queensland at Belmore Sports Ground on Thursday night cost the Bulldogs a top-four spot. They are now fifth, could be sixth by the end of the round, and if they lose to South Sydney next Friday while Brisbane and Penrith keep winning, they could be eighth by the end of the regular season.

Canterbury came from sixth spot in 1995 to win the premiership. But since then the lowest placing for a team winning the title has been fourth — Sydney Roosters in 2002, Wests Tigers in 2005 and Melbourne in 2009.

The Bulldogs are not leaking too many points. They are fifth-best in the NRL for missed tackles.

But the errors are piling up. The Bulldogs are seventh with 202 over 23 games, an average of 8.8 per game. They made 11 against the Cowboys.

The players are aware of it and want to fix it and they are taking solace in the fact their traditional stout Bulldogs defence is still with them.

“They (Cowboys) had a lot of sets on our line and we turned them away. So defence is really strong and that’s a real positive going into finals,” prop Aiden Tolman said.

“A few indecisions, a few missed tackles and the game was lost.”

Tolman played in both grand finals (2012, 2014) the Bulldogs lost. He admits the Dogs were scoring more points back then.

“Our attack has been understrength a little bit,” he said.

“It’s not so much our structure needs changing. It is staying in the game for the whole 80 minutes. We have these 10 to 15-minute periods where things slip away.

“I don’t think it’s fatigue from getting to this point in the season. Every other team has played the same amount of matches.”

Backrower Greg Eastwood did what the Bulldogs need more of on Thursday night against the defending premiers. He scored two tries and broke the line.

The Bulldogs lie eighth in the NRL in line breaks. Eastwood’s was The Dogs’ only break compared with five to the Cowboys.

“It just comes down to the individual wanting to hold that ball, when going into the contact or playing the ball. In the last month or so our ball control and completing (sets) has let us down,” Eastwood said when asked where the polish was missing from the Dogs’ football.

“We’ve made some errors lately and it’s not like us. The first half of the year we were great with the ball. The second half we’ve slackened off a bit.

“Other teams are completing well and playing for the whole 80 (minutes). That’s why we’re losing.

“Our defence is good. It’s a matter of staying with teams and completing better.”

Coach Des Hasler said his players had “a real dig, did some admirable things” in the eight-point loss to a Johnathan Thurston-inspired North Queensland.

“We don’t always want to be admirable. We need to turn that around,” Hasler said.

Both Tolman and Eastwood said there would no panic about having to play elimination football every week in the finals.

“We’re not busted, but we need to be better,” Tolman said.

“It’s not so much going into the finals after a loss or two. It’s about having confidence. At the moment we’ve got that only in patches. We need to fix it.”

Eastwood added: “It doesn’t concern us. We just have to keep winning.

“Hopefully we win next week and get some momentum going into the first week of the finals. Then hopefully we make it four in a row and take out the big one.”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sub...d3b4d33aa30e9b3c2bc26c9ff12&memtype=anonymous

Reading that article just annoyed me. Our structure is simply not good enough to chase points.

It is impossible for the Bulldogs to finish eighth given that the Titans who are currently in eighth place are on 27 competition points. We are on 32 competition points five clear of Titans and there are only 2 more games left for them to play. If Titans win both their remaining games they recieve 4 competition points (2 points per win). The best the Titans can finish on is 31 points. If Souths beat the Dogs the Dogs willl remain on 32 Points. Love the attention to detail in that piece of journalism.
 
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Lets make history and live by our own rules.
Thursday was bad but you never give in.
 

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Forget history is stacked against us, fucking reality is too.
 
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