Hayne wanted to come to the Bulldogs.

[Ahecee]

The workload is different but not 'much less'.

It is much higher outputs for a shorter duration and fewer reps. Like comparing a 100m sprinter to a 1500 sprinter.

And if there is a kick returner that runs over 11 when not in pads I would be pretty surprised. These guys are legitimate speedsters. Hayne went an 11.2

He is still a good athlete no matter where he goes. But in the NFL he is not a special one. Just another athletic guy, only problem is he is an athletic guy with next to no experience.

Comparing track times is something, but not much. On the field running in a straight line won't happen often, it is far more important to be able to cut and change direction at speed, and Hayne will be able to do that with the best of them.

Quite a lot of the super human players in the NFL belief comes down to Americans believing that and saying it like it's a fact. Yes, they are a lot of great athletes there, but Hayne isn't out of his depth there either.

I agree though, his biggest issue is no experience....... even more so, no experience at 26 years old. If a team looks at him, and a guy they feel is pretty much evenly matched, but just coming out of the NCAA, and 5 years younger? ....... Hayne can't be just as good, he has to be better, so, he will have a challenge there.

 

[jo_95]

Comparing track times is something, but not much. On the field running in a straight line won't happen often, it is far more important to be able to cut and change direction at speed, and Hayne will be able to do that with the best of them.

Quite a lot of the super human players in the NFL belief comes down to Americans believing that and saying it like it's a fact. Yes, they are a lot of great athletes there, but Hayne isn't out of his depth there either.

I agree though, his biggest issue is no experience....... even more so, no experience at 26 years old. If I team looks at him, and a guy they feel is pretty much evenly matched, but just coming out of the NCAA, and 5 years younger? ....... Hayne can't be just as good, he has to be better, so, he will have a challenge there.

I watch the NFL and have actually studied the workouts one Adrian Peterson did in the gym while he was at Oklahoma. These guys are on a level above what we see in team sports in Australia. They are where we will be in 10-15 years.

Pure speed is important to a kick returner. Once/if they get around the outside of the coverage they have to turn upfield and basically pull a 80-100m sprint in pads.

The vast majority of Hayne's skills do not translate to the NFL and his biomechanics will have to be adjusted slightly to lower his centre point of gravity to play in the NFL.

 

[hotdiggitydogs]

The thing is, in the NRL when he has the ball, he has the option to run, step, pass, kick which leaves defenders in two minds about whether or not to come in and make the tackle and risk leaving another player unmarked. In the NFL once he has the ball in his hands all the opposition players on the field will have only eyes for him and won't worry about his other options (pass,kick) because he has only one option..run. Yes their are blockers but if you really look at the kick/punt returners they have the agility, acceleration and quick turn of foot like a Matt Bowen or Ben Barba. Hayne doesn't have that agility, he does have great top and speed and an ability to accelerate if needed to get around players which is all well and good if he gets in the back field, but he will have to get past a wall of players all with one aim Stopping the ball.

In saying this good luck to him.

 

[Wolfmother]

oh the family club miss out again

Not really we've got Bmoz next year lol

 

[boggie23]

It will be interesting to see who Parra lands with the left over cash. It seems for the first time they have a good CEO, and they blitzed us in the memberships this year. Would be really annoying if they land a rock star before 2015 and we have been looking for a fullback for over a year now and still nothing (looks like we are buying a winger to play fullback to replace the winger we had playing fullback this year).

Anyways if Parra get a good fullback I will be annoyed. Even if they get a good half I will be peeved seeing as they organised something so fast yet we haven't done anything in over a year.

Hopefully they don't find anyone and just waste it on a few fringe players.

And in terms of the Parra Life Time contact talk. It will most likely be first and last rights on his contract. So most probably if Parra can match a rival offer he will stay there. Doubt they can stop him from playing anywhere else if a club is offering over 1 mill a season and parra only have 400k in cap space.

 

[rainman]

Anyone remember this NFL player that Warren Ryan recruited to play with the Jets ?
His name was Manfred Moore.

Brief rugby league appearance
After winning Super Bowl XI with the Oakland Raiders[4] in the United States, Moore was recruited by Australian New South Wales Rugby Football League premiership team the Newtown Jets in 1977. He had a sensational start at Newtown, scoring the club's first try of thie 1977 season.[5] However he lasted only four games in the NSWRFL; receiving a head injury in a match against Penrith which prompted him to return to the National Football League prematurely.[5]

 

[boggie23]

Anyone remember this NFL player that Warren Ryan recruited to play with the Jets ?
His name was Manfred Moore.

Brief rugby league appearance
After winning Super Bowl XI with the Oakland Raiders[4] in the United States, Moore was recruited by Australian New South Wales Rugby Football League premiership team the Newtown Jets in 1977. He had a sensational start at Newtown, scoring the club's first try of thie 1977 season.[5] However he lasted only four games in the NSWRFL; receiving a head injury in a match against Penrith which prompted him to return to the National Football League prematurely.[5]

Wasn't there some other NFL player that came across claiming he was a pro player but was crap (I don't even this he was good enough to play 3rd grade NFL, even though he faked that he was a NFL starter), and played 1 game, dropped 500 kicks and was never seen again (assuming its not the same guy)

Hayne playing NFL will be worse off then Hunt playing AFL (because Hunt apparently played it at high school in the past). NFL is massive in the states and college football is very competitive, and I think from that only 2-3% of collage players crack the NFL. For a guy to come in with no training, little knowledge and no experience in the sport will be really hard.

He might be able to find a role in a less technical aspect of the game (because its such a micro managed/specialist game that 1 player only has 1 job), I guess the guy that catches kicks and punts what ever they call them (similar skill set to an NRL fullback) would be doable, he might even be able to make it as a punter depending if he can develop his kicking skills. Or maybe play in defence trying to stop the opposition teams catchers or something (there is a position for everything), most teams carry 65-70 players. So he could come on for 20 seconds a game to do something. But it will still be hard.

Hope he can make it because it should be able to set him up for life.

 

[Bulldogs09]

Not really we've got Bmoz next year lol

Well we hope we have.

 

[Vlasnik]

I'm sure if Hayne really wanted to come to the Bulldogs there were other ways to get a release from the Eels. He could have taken a dump in the coaches car, held up a sign in front of Parra leagues club say that the board members are a bunch of knobs etc, etc.....

But with that said as much as I would have liked to see him in our blue and white I wish him the best of luck in his new endeavors

 

[jo_95]

Wasn't there some other NFL player that came across claiming he was a pro player but was crap (I don't even this he was good enough to play 3rd grade NFL, even though he faked that he was a NFL starter), and played 1 game, dropped 500 kicks and was never seen again (assuming its not the same guy)

Hayne playing NFL will be worse off then Hunt playing AFL (because Hunt apparently played it at high school in the past). NFL is massive in the states and college football is very competitive, and I think from that only 2-3% of collage players crack the NFL. For a guy to come in with no training, little knowledge and no experience in the sport will be really hard.

He might be able to find a role in a less technical aspect of the game (because its such a micro managed/specialist game that 1 player only has 1 job), I guess the guy that catches kicks and punts what ever they call them (similar skill set to an NRL fullback) would be doable, he might even be able to make it as a punter depending if he can develop his kicking skills. Or maybe play in defence trying to stop the opposition teams catchers or something (there is a position for everything), most teams carry 65-70 players. So he could come on for 20 seconds a game to do something. But it will still be hard.

Hope he can make it because it should be able to set him up for life.

Yeah… Greg Smith. I think he actually played div 3 college or something from memory. Apparently he was super athletic but couldn't catch. Or position himself properly in defence.

 

[boggie23]

Yeah… Greg Smith. I think he actually played div 3 college or something from memory. Apparently he was super athletic but couldn't catch. Or position himself properly in defence.

Haha. Thats the guy. Lol. I was at that game. Biggest dud ever. Makes Brown look like a Dally M player

Cant believe he played first grade, makes you think if Warren Ryan had gone blind in his old age

 

[jo_95]

Haha. Thats the guy. Lol. I was at that game. Biggest dud ever. Makes Brown look like a Dally M player

Cant believe he played first grade, makes you think if Warren Ryan had gone blind in his old age

I think he was just absurdly convincing because of how fast and agile he was. Makes you wonder though how he didn't get caught out for having feet for hands at training.

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

He's just going because the cheerleaders are hotter in the NFL :cheer2:

 

[The DoggFather]

He's just going because the cheerleaders are hotter in the NFL :cheer2:

Then he will end up in Dallas.

 

[Bulldog_NJ]

I've got a feeling that Hayne has a 'handshake' agreement with the Chooks, if he decides to return.

 

[Bob dog]

Brett Morris to explode in 2015 with more ball.

 

[silverelvis69]

Brett Morris to explode in 2015 with more ball.

The more I think of brett Morris - the worse I feel. He can not play fullback. He is a winger.

Talks of parea to replace hayne like falau is pissing me off!

We have had a year to consider option and still no dice.

What is hasler/castle doing!!!!

 

[bulldogfan1]

Seeing all the hype it has created here in Aus and in the U.S, I wonder if an NFL team would sign him purely based on that, opening up another market, just like Falou with AFL. Wouldn't surprise me.

 

[LordSidious66]

I've got a feeling that Hayne has a 'handshake' agreement with the Chooks, if he decides to return.

I have that feeling to

 

[Mr Invisible]

If Parra sign one of the guys Bulldogs are looking at, there will be serious questions asked about WTF our club is doing by fans.