Elliott the strongest at the Dogs (according to Lewis)

His 7.something average last season was above average for him.

As I said I'm going to start an adam dudiot performance thread for this season. His stats and his high/low lights will be pointed out then.

 

I’m no Elliott supporter but I support the bulldogs and don’t take every opportunity to put shit on players giving their guts for us. Some of the big mouthes on here probably found under 6 soccer too tough for them

 

Can the Elliot bashers please do us all a favour and provide some actual facts to support their views when the footy starts.
FWIW, I'm not an "Elliot supporter" I'm just someone who likes to see some real data to back up the extreme views expressed in some posts.

Go Dogs

 

Why would i support a player if for some irrational reason of the coaches hes keeping more talented players out of the team

 

You’re certainly entitled to your opinion Wendog....and you are expressing your opinion in a calm way which does not make me picture you with veins popping out of your head .... lol

I still have to disagree with you. Elliott was very good in the back end of last year in particular. He was one of our best on ground on a number of occasions and his runs and tackles at times were big momentum builders.
I think some on here have a cognitive bias which causes them to only remember Elliott’s worst, while only remembering the best things about our other backrowers.
But I respect your opinion and your right to see things differently

 

you’re just changing your argument a little more each post. You do that!

 

Just go through our match day threads on TK, more often than not there's a "fucking adam idiot " comment from a number of posters

 

Because of cognitive bias which causes them to be hyper critical of Elliott’s faults while overlooking others. Sorry, dude....but I’m not exactly going to consider kennel commentary as compelling evidence.

 

The facts don't support the claim that "He is below the 2nd rowers and locks we already have on the books".
To whit, his run metres per game are better than CHN, RFM and Jackson.
His tackle efficiency is better that CHN and not that far short of Jackson and RFM.
His missed tackles are less than CHN, Napa and Jackson.
His error rate is less than DWZ's and it doesn't put him in the NRL top 50.
He concedes less penalties than Tolman and JMK and again he isn't in the NRL top 50.
I'm not sure by what combined measures he is below the others, because whatever it is the NRL doesn't use it.

I would also add that not everyone in the team can be a game winner, the Salary Cap sees to that.

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Is it A "cognitive bias" or B "expectation bias" or C "confirmation bias"? Are they expecting and therefore only looking for things that confirm their predetermined opinion? Or are they simply interpreting things in a way that confirms their bias? Or are they selectively remembering only those things that support their bias? Whilst ignoring anything that doesn't?

My choice is option D, all of the above.

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Yeah, I tend to agree...a little of all three.

 

You must know more than Pay and Hasler. You can’t have a whole team of marquee players unless you’re the roosters

 

Yes well there you go. It's all a personal opinion and stats can lie as to a MVP.

I would not keep Elliott over RFM, JJ, CHN and I think you can add Stimson to that list soon as well.

AND I don't think you'll find many fg coaches or Bulldogs fans who would rather lose them to keep Adam either...just my opinion and thats all you can do as a fan.

 

I really don't get how so many people see so many negatives in Elliott that apparently outweigh the positives he brings. Why is he our scapegoat when there are so many other problems? In our current team Elliott is good enough to be in the 13 and at worst (maybe Stimson really does impress) he's a great player to have coming off the bench. I'm happy with all the attributes and traits he brings to the team when you disregard talent (he's also not as bad as people say). Also just regarding stats the eye test is always a better measure as long as you know what you're looking for (Woods had great stats).

 

I would keep all of them but if I had to get rid of someone out of that bunch it'd be RFM no contest. Stimson needs to show me something before I put him over Elliott and I don't think the difference between Elliott and CHN is as big as you say/think. Obviously keep Jackson over him. We have bigger issues than our second row and lock positions (it's literally our strength and best part of our team).

 

He is brought up all the time literally everywhere. He's been made out to be a meme. If we lose it's Elliott's fault.

 

As much, definitely not.