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Napa can’t play bigger minutes, never has been able to....
He plays big minutes in Canterbury Cup. He was killing it in the second half ,only played 12 minutes made a great run and won a penalty and was taken off. He sprinted off and didn't even look tired. I have been trying to support Pay but should never of taken him off at that point. Seems to only have a plan A with his rotations. He and Danny had Knights on the back foot at that point. Unfortunately he replaced the wrong person.I'd love for Ogden to start but even if he comes off the bench, there's no reason he still can't play 40-50 minutes.
He played somewhere near to 70min if i'm not mistaken once this yr... His got it in him. Bloke is a leader..Napa can’t play bigger minutes, never has been able to....
His been in my team every year since 2012... Most consistent mofo out there for years but tbh, its time to go. Reality is no coach is going to come here when your 3 highest paid players and counting are a no impact workhorse prop, a busted backrower and a porcelain half. These guys got my respect but if we want to move forward its time to clear the decks, no matter the cost. I hate saying it but its the reality of it unless your enjoying Pay's coaching.Didn't realise twelvies were now permitted on the kennel.
Stupid thread. Would agree we need to use him better, but drop? lol okay.
Not every prop has to give "Impact", or be a big body. If he gets the job done, makes us metres, makes first contact, and steadies our middle D - then he stays. And he is ticking those boxes at the moment.
There is a reason Pay has him in the team - it's because he is the best we have, and consistently has the output.
And most importantly, he plays round 12 and is in my supercoach team. So fuck right off with that bs!
From kick-off actuallyTolman on bench for first 15-20. Play out the rest off the match once coming on.
Need Ogden to start as we aren't a good enough side to try chase points when losing the ruck early on. We need to bend the line and win the early battle, you can generally watch a Dogs game and tell wether we are going to win or lose in the first 5-10mins... this needs to change.
We have lost the plot !!!Ogden and Big Papa should be the starting props.
not a lot of difference between the two, except Tolman has a better work rate in defenceHe played somewhere near to 70min if i'm not mistaken once this yr... His got it in him. Bloke is a leader..
Defended Tolman for a long time whilst being shat on by many... I know what Tolman is all about and would preferably be my capatain but I'm done. For as long as his here his still one of my props but I wouldn't be disappointed if the money his on goes elsewhere.not a lot of difference between the two, except Tolman has a better work rate in defence
Napa
rd1. 43mins 78m 22 tackles (4 missed) 0 errors
rd2. 52mins 182m 23 tackles (4 missed) 0 errors
rd3. 52mins 116m 31 tackles (2 missed) 0 errors
rd4. 16mins 20m 11 tackles (4 missed) 0 errors
rd8. 37mins 104m 24 tackles (1 missed) 0 errors
rd9. 51mins 185m 19 tackles (4 missed) 2 errors
Tolman
rd1. 52mins 158m 36 tackles (1 missed) 0 errors
rd2. 48mins 154m 25 tackles (0 missed) 0 errors
rd3. 55mins 128m 40 tackles (2 missed) 0 errors
rd4. 74mins 159m 47 tackles (2 missed) 0 errors
rd8. 50mins 99m 36 tackles (1 missed) 1 error
rd9. 65mins 148m 38 tackles (2 missed) 1 error
We have, but I blame Pay for thatWe have lost the plot !!!