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The only way Liam Knight is on $400k is if they’re including Danica’s salary.
 

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Preston is "worth" more than kikau given the difference in how the two have been playing... just hoping he doesn't regress this year
 

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This farce is an excellent example of why the "points" (assigned by a panel of "experts") instead of a Salary Cap (what you're actually paying) would be comical in the extreme.

If players are being "underpaid" or "overpaid", it's best to understand why, and make moves to address those issues.

In any case, how is this "Salary Cap Analysis"?

Just two blokes who think they're "in tha know", availing themselves of some of Las Vegas' finest vices, guessing...and not even educated guessing.

* seriously mods. where is my *eyeroll* emoji ???
 

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This farce is an excellent example of why the "points" (assigned by a panel of "experts") instead of a Salary Cap (what you're actually paying) would be comical in the extreme.

If players are being "underpaid" or "overpaid", it's best to understand why, and make moves to address those issues.

In any case, how is this "Salary Cap Analysis"?

Just two blokes who think they're "in tha know", availing themselves of some of Las Vegas' finest vices, guessing...and not even educated guessing.

* seriously mods. where is my *eyeroll* emoji ???
Got any idea why they increased % you have to spend on SC from 95% to 97.5%?

What was the thinking behind that?

It seems to have made SC even harder to manage and overpay players who are mid range so you can become compliant?
 

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Got any idea why they increased % you have to spend on SC from 95% to 97.5%?

What was the thinking behind that?

It seems to have made SC even harder to manage and overpay players who are mid range so you can become compliant?
Don't know. Seems "political" rather than practical. Perhaps a concession to the RLPA? (to get the EBA ratified?)

Is it a minimum spend (95% / 97.5%)? Or is it, you can only carry-over 2.5-5% over to next year's cap?

Not sure if this kind of detail is published anywhere, but it would sure be nice (useful for transparency) if it were.

All links welcomed :tonguewink:
 

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Don't know. Seems "political" rather than practical. Perhaps a concession to the RLPA? (to get the EBA ratified?)

Is it a minimum spend (95% / 97.5%)? Or is it, you can only carry-over 2.5-5% over to next year's cap?

Not sure if this kind of detail is published anywhere, but it would sure be nice (useful for transparency) if it were.

All links welcomed :tonguewink:
@TwinTurbo can probably help clear that up for us.
 

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Don't know. Seems "political" rather than practical. Perhaps a concession to the RLPA? (to get the EBA ratified?)
It was part of the CBA, for obvious reasons the RLPA's objective was for the players to get paid to the full value of the Cap. Their argument was an increase in the Cap for 2024 was all very well but not of much use if the clubs don't actually pay it. The 2.5% is simply to allow for unexpected circumstances.

The NRL also wants the Club to spend the allowance that they receive from the NRL mostly based on the value received from the sales of the broadcast right. They don't want Clubs keeping the money and using it for something else.

Is it a minimum spend (95% / 97.5%)? Or is it, you can only carry-over 2.5-5% over to next year's cap?
No carry over.

Not sure if this kind of detail is published anywhere, but it would sure be nice (useful for transparency) if it were.
The CBA has a number of non disclosures, one of which is player contract values. This may be one of the reasons why the NRL have stopped publishing the TPA values for the last 5 years.

All links welcomed :tonguewink:
The Salary Cap basics can be found here;



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This farce is an excellent example of why the "points" (assigned by a panel of "experts") instead of a Salary Cap (what you're actually paying) would be comical in the extreme.

If players are being "underpaid" or "overpaid", it's best to understand why, and make moves to address those issues.

In any case, how is this "Salary Cap Analysis"?

Just two blokes who think they're "in tha know", availing themselves of some of Las Vegas' finest vices, guessing...and not even educated guessing.

* seriously mods. where is my *eyeroll* emoji ???
Who are these "experts"?

It would be next to impossible to find an "expert" in NRL player values (call it points) who isn't currently or wasn't previously involved with a Club, no such thing as independent. The claims of bias would be deafening.


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Who are these "experts"?

It would be next to impossible to find an "expert" in NRL player values (call it points) who isn't currently or wasn't previously involved with a Club, no such thing as independent. The claims of bias would be deafening.


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So, you're agreeing?
I thought the "air quotes" were clear enough...
 

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It was part of the CBA, for obvious reasons the RLPA's objective was for the players to get paid to the full value of the Cap. Their argument was an increase in the Cap for 2024 was all very well but not of much use if the clubs don't actually pay it. The 2.5% is simply to allow for unexpected circumstances.

The NRL also wants the Club to spend the allowance that they receive from the NRL mostly based on the value received from the sales of the broadcast right. They don't want Clubs keeping the money and using it for something else.

No carry over.

The CBA has a number of non disclosures, one of which is player contract values. This may be one of the reasons why the NRL have stopped publishing the TPA values for the last 5 years.

The Salary Cap basics can be found here;



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The RLPA/CBA part is unsurprising.
Thanks for clarifying the 2.5%/Carryover.
Thanks for the link. It's the same one (with the same detail, or lack thereof) we were discussing when the latest CBA was being finalised.
I was hoping for something more comprehensive, but doubt that it exists in fan-land.
 
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